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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Zidrooner posted:

There is no way Islamists will get any foothold of power in the west by virtue of fertility or size of population. Everyone, from gas station attendants to high powered executives, either tolerates their culture at best or reviles them at worst.

when a group's population growth is larger than other groups they eventually become most or all of "everyone" which means your second sentence would no longer be true.

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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Zidrooner posted:

The original "everyone", which is responsible for the host country's culture, laws, and wealth will not allow their power to move into the hands of newcomers simply because they are more numerous. They would abandon democracy if necessary.

I agree, I'm just pointing out that the whole "everyone dislikes them" thing only holds true for certain values of "everyone". they will all eventually abandon democracy at some point regardless, not necessarily for anything related to this issue

I would also point out that Jews were openly reviled by just about everyone around us for thousands of years, but now we're running a lot of poo poo, and that's without even having a big population

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