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Tias
May 25, 2008

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Now Im imagining a 30 years war porn movie called bad dads army, stop making it weird

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HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Tias posted:

Now Im imagining a 30 years war porn movie called bad dads army, stop making it weird
tilly was volcel. no porn there.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Senju Kannon posted:

i choose to interpret ecw in this post as extreme championship wrestling, because it could also apply there. just look up the mass transit incident. also thumbtack matches are really hosed up

has nothing on japanese matches, tho. there was one extreme rules match that was all flourescent bulbs. over a hundred were broken during the match with all sorts of glass dust everywhere, the wrestlers bleeding all over the place. horrifying.

anyway extreme rules wrestling is basically the gladiators of our time. heck people die in the ring sometimes too

Hardcore wrestling without unprotected chair shots is safer than regular wrestling because you only take surface level damage from cuts and punctures instead of constant big moves like the more technical styles

Mike Awesome was hosed up not because of thumb tacks but because of8 trillion chair shots and all the pills and steroids you can eat

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Mass transit is New Jack being a garbage human he also tried to gently caress up a table spot on purpose to kill someone in the ring

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

HEY GAIL posted:

tilly was volcel. no porn there.

I hate being able to infer what that world means. And also, isn't it just plain celibate.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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HEY GAIL posted:

tilly was volcel. no porn there.

If I was a sperging catholic gunelord nicknamed the monk in armor and no woman would touch me with a 10 ft flaming pike, I too would claim I created that situation on purpose ;)

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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Tias posted:

If I was a sperging catholic gunelord nicknamed the monk in armor and no woman would touch me with a 10 ft flaming pike, I too would claim I created that situation on purpose ;)
lol

good old tilly

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/13/brave-passengers-board-last-ever-flight-666-hel-friday-13th/

quote:

Fearless flyers laughed in the face of superstition when they boarded the last ever Flight 666 to HEL on Friday the 13th.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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the hottest local Catholic drama from Jersey

Thirteen Orphans
Dec 2, 2012

I am a writer, a doctor, a nuclear physicist and a theoretical philosopher. But above all, I am a man, a hopelessly inquisitive man, just like you.

At my old university they would put out the campus manger at the beginning of December. Despite being literally 15 feet from the security guard building, someone managed to steal the baby Jesus. I think it was stolen by a conservative Catholic because it "miraculously" returned on Christmas morning, the time when you're supposed to have Jesus in the display.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
Aaah, life is sincerely so funny when there's things still being done in the dark.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012


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CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
Probably one of those pagan Roman Geese, not like the noble Christian pelican.

Thirteen Orphans
Dec 2, 2012

I am a writer, a doctor, a nuclear physicist and a theoretical philosopher. But above all, I am a man, a hopelessly inquisitive man, just like you.

Christianity Thread II: He Was Friends with a Swan

CountFosco posted:

Probably one of those pagan Roman Geese, not like the noble Christian pelican.

Yes, just like the turkey, a truly noble bird.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?









:3:

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

NJ all day baby

Caufman
May 7, 2007
To grossly paraphrase Jesus, if you don't love kids gtfo

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

Caufman posted:

To grossly paraphrase Jesus, if you don't love kids gtfo

Excuse me you'll actually find that this is extreme liturgical abuse and furthermore,

Goobish
May 31, 2011

Forgive me I'm too lazy to search through the thread. It's probably been mentioned. But I'm wondering what the goons collective is on the tithe? I waiver between *yes good thing* and *no you're probably doing shady poo poo* I'm interested in hearing peoples' opinions, though.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

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Pillbug

Goobish posted:

Forgive me I'm too lazy to search through the thread. It's probably been mentioned. But I'm wondering what the goons collective is on the tithe? I waiver between *yes good thing* and *no you're probably doing shady poo poo* I'm interested in hearing peoples' opinions, though.

Given that it's pretty much optional everywhere how could it possibly be a bad thing?

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003
You should contribute to the church you go to freely, donating an amount within your means.

If your church is checking your tax returns for 10% then maybe that is not a good church.

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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One of my coworkers had a tithe on her childhood allowance.

So yeah, not the sort of thing you want to make into an absolute. Off the top of my head, the New Testament seems more concerned with giving what you have (the widow at the Temple), giving what you promised (Ananias and Saphira), or just giving everything (sell everything you own...).

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
the above two posts are the correct answers, imo. you should definitely give what you can, but don't ruin your life over it. i saw a post in /r/personalfinance a while back where the OP and his family (wife and kids) were eyeball deep in debt and on the verge of being evicted, but he wouldn't stop giving like 20% of their paychecks to the church

(they were mormon though, and mormons are all hosed up generally)

Senju Kannon
Apr 9, 2011

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something something please help me my family is dying

Caufman
May 7, 2007

The Phlegmatist posted:

Excuse me you'll actually find that this is extreme liturgical abuse and furthermore,

I respectfully apologize for abusing the Gospel. It's true. I do.

Caufman
May 7, 2007

Goobish posted:

Forgive me I'm too lazy to search through the thread. It's probably been mentioned. But I'm wondering what the goons collective is on the tithe? I waiver between *yes good thing* and *no you're probably doing shady poo poo* I'm interested in hearing peoples' opinions, though.

With respect to tithing, I'm reminded of my favorite line from Deuteronomy: "When you harvest your fields, don't pick your vines clean or gather fallen fruit. Leave these for the poor and the stranger."

I take that to mean that even if you aren't a farmer, leave something of your income for people who are vulnerable. In a perfect world, an organization like a church will perfectly disburse the funds donated to those in physical and spiritual need. But every organization on Earth that I've known has earned at least some of the skepticism an outsider might have. So to me, the applicable part of the message is that you should set aside some income (and 10% may be a fair percentage for most earners) for a good, needy cause, either directly or indirectly.

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

chernobyl kinsman posted:

the above two posts are the correct answers, imo. you should definitely give what you can, but don't ruin your life over it. i saw a post in /r/personalfinance a while back where the OP and his family (wife and kids) were eyeball deep in debt and on the verge of being evicted, but he wouldn't stop giving like 20% of their paychecks to the church

(they were mormon though, and mormons are all hosed up generally)

LDS are weird in that they definitely 100% require you to tithe 10% and they check, but if you're struggling you can talk to employment counselors at the ward and they'll help you find a better job. because mormons take care of their own.

presbyterians didn't really give a poo poo because that denomination is rich as gently caress anyway

MarsDragon
Apr 27, 2010

"You've all learned something very important here: there are things in this world you just can't change!"

Keromaru5 posted:

One of my coworkers had a tithe on her childhood allowance.

So yeah, not the sort of thing you want to make into an absolute. Off the top of my head, the New Testament seems more concerned with giving what you have (the widow at the Temple), giving what you promised (Ananias and Saphira), or just giving everything (sell everything you own...).

Yeah, my parents made me pay tithing on my allowance as a kid. (they were Mormon, how did you know?) It pissed me off and I stopped doing it the second I had more control over my own money.

As The Plegamatist said, Mormons are hardcore about tithing. It's not optional unless you want a serious talking-to from the bishop. And of course there are a lot of stories in Friend/New Era/Ensign about people who had basically nothing and paid their tithing anyway and were rewarded with blessings for it.

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

I haven't seen this posted in awhile and showed it to my friend today, so I thought I would share it here (for the 1000th time):

http://www.blc.arizona.edu/courses/schaffer/449/Gould%20Nonoverlapping%20Magisteria.htm

EDIT: Also, what's with the "htm" file name?

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
We have a church tax, generally 1-2% depending on the parish, that is collected by the state along with your other taxes and who then gives it to the church, which pays the state for the service. Remnant of the state church(es)? Yes! Discourages donating and makes you think you don't need to since you get taxed already? Sure! Handy for calculating the next year's budget? Oh thank goodness, I have 4 sub-budgets to calculate this week.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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Valiantman posted:

We have a church tax, generally 1-2% depending on the parish, that is collected by the state along with your other taxes and who then gives it to the church, which pays the state for the service.
This but for Germany is why I tell them I'm "Greek Orthodox," not "Russian Orthodox." Putin can go to hell before he gets anything from me.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned

Adding on to tithechat, according to Thomistic teaching you are only supposed to give from your extra goods, not from what you need to feed your family and all that. Also note that the idea is of giving goods, not cash. Like we used to give tomatoes from our garden to the cloistered Poor Clares, which had the added bonus of getting to chat with them through the grille.

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003
One of my priests said the gift he enjoys most from parishioners is food. Like home-cooked meals.

Apparently they don't feed them all that well down in the rectory.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
So apparently my idea of bringing extra eggs (I have chickens) to church wasn't so crazy after all.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
Farm fresh eggs are a gift.

If you paint them around Pascal, I've been told you've wronged Jesus.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

CountFosco posted:

So apparently my idea of bringing extra eggs (I have chickens) to church wasn't so crazy after all.


Caufman posted:

Farm fresh eggs are a gift.

If you paint them around Pascal, I've been told you've wronged Jesus.

Now that I've moved into a house in the country, I was telling my parents about how I want to get some chickens in the spring.

My mom made fun of me for the idea, so she doesn't need to have any delicious farm fresh eggs :colbert:

Caufman
May 7, 2007
I'd like to raise goats rather than sheep. Goat dairy is so rich and tasty, and I'm not all that into wool.

Goat meat is the most delicious meat in the world, but it's likely I'd be vegetarian if I had to see the animals that get slaughtered for my plate.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

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Pillbug

Caufman posted:

I'd like to raise goats rather than sheep. Goat dairy is so rich and tasty, and I'm not all that into wool.

Goat meat is the most delicious meat in the world, but it's likely I'd be vegetarian if I had to see the animals that get slaughtered for my plate.

I've known people who raise animals and it actually never bothers them, goats are fun and delicious!

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Ceciltron posted:

I've known people who raise animals and it actually never bothers them, goats are fun and delicious!

Yeah I grew up on a working beef cattle ranch and did a ton of hunting and fishing. As long as you don't get too attached to your animals it's not really a problem eating them. It helps that cattle are dumb as rocks and not very charismatic, so none of them were pets.

Goats you have to milk twice a day which is a bit more commitment than I want right now.

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Ceciltron posted:

I've known people who raise animals and it actually never bothers them, goats are fun and delicious!

I have relatives who keep rabbits in the suburbs for meat. Much less work than goats, much less noise than chickens, lots of rabbit fur for knicknacks and whatnot, and rabbit is delicious.

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