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chernobyl kinsman posted:it only counts if its in latin, the language spoken by jesus himself and japanese since he did go to japan
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Oct 1, 2017 23:26
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the only podcast i listen to is my brother my brother and me and i listen to it on my way to work, on my way home, and sometimes while i shower but usually i listen to music since it's easier to hear over running water and i can time my shower better
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Oct 5, 2017 16:13
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role of God in buddhism; none whenever i get on catholic answers looking for funny questions and see the dominicans talk about how buddhism is incompatible with catholicism i'm like "harold they're different religions" course i have very few issues with syncretism so even when they talk about the dreaded topic i'm like "the issue with syncretism is not the watering down or betraying of catholicism but the imperialist desire to find meaning from a colonized culture by the colonizer"
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Oct 7, 2017 14:01
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that wasn't meant to be explanatory it was meant to be an ethical question that anyone who engages in syncretism needs to take into account and not stick into a three page epilogue that gladhands the issue PAUL KNITTER
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Oct 7, 2017 14:36
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my man francis taking a hard stance against 80s style radical feminism i can understand how contemporary activists could miss that, they were expecting the church to be dialoguing with people who haven't already been discredited or improved on in the past three decades. nearly four for some radfem thinkers. it reminds me of my jesuit professor who said the greatest problem the church in the 21st century had to contend with was the issue of women, and i was like "oh my god the church is stuck in the sixties" except now apparently frank read, let's say janice raymond since he also hates trans women and i'm blanking on actually important radical feminist theorists, and so has caught up to the 80s. but no one knows because we're already beyond the transsexual empire. i mean, we're not since transition related healthcare still isn't covered by medicare or medicaid and probably won't for at least four years, but you see what i'm saying raymond only plays to cathy brennans these days so we're not paying much attention to her as a serious person worth debating
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Oct 7, 2017 22:30
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Worthleast posted:Great podcast Thirteen and Senju. I think we had the aliens discussion in one of these threads. someone tell constantine The Phlegmatist posted:I've noticed this even from members of the clergy who are amenable to the progressive stance on LGBT issues (like the St Gallens Group.) Everyone seems stuck in the 80s; which, I guess would make sense since the bishops and cardinals themselves are about in their 80s :P But we're not really going to have constructive dialogue in the Church on LGBT issues while this generation is still in power. I wouldn't expect the average millenial to know about TERFers or second wave feminism or whatever much less a 70 year old bishop. don't count out the tumblr/twitter generation, people are getting woke also becoming nazis. but woke, too
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Oct 8, 2017 02:53
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chernobyl kinsman posted:also it is sincerely okay if not every religious institution adheres to progressive ideas about sexuality people are dying because of christianity's teachings on sexuality so no, it is not okay unless you think lynched gays in africa, the ukraine, and pretty much everywhere people were forced at gunpoint to convert is simply an agree to disagree thing, which is as morally repugnant as the belief that murdering lgbt people is god's will you cannot convince me that people who say even the most gladhanding "god doesn't like men to have sex with men" position doesn't have blood on its hands
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Oct 8, 2017 02:59
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i also think that every religion should teach only my personal beliefs i think religions shouldn't support murdering people but scoreboard says i'm not in great company historically speaking
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Oct 8, 2017 04:49
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chernobyl kinsman posted:the Church doesn't support murdering anyone, that's why it opposes abortion but opposes ENDA, which would allow lgbt people to have workplace anti discrimination laws put in place. considering the fact that the majority of lgbt people are impoverished (also people of color) and considering trans women in particular have difficulty accessing documentation that could help prevent them from being outed during the job search process, it's almost like the church is implicitly condoning the economic subjugation of american lgbt people. not to mention their rhetoric which supports conversion therapy, an outdated and thoroughly debunked therapy that essentially tortures gay and trans children until they most likely kill themselves it's almost like there's structures in society that perpetuate violence upon vulnerable people and that the church condones these structures either through silence or support. if only there were people, preferably people of color, who outlined systematically these issues and addressed them to the church in some kind of theology of liberation StashAugustine posted:hey i like this thread when its readable, please dont pick shitfights sorry but these issues are kinda Important and i hate it when people avoid addressing the elephant in the room out of politeness. peace that's the absence of conflict and not the peace of justice martin luther king jr something something
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Oct 8, 2017 05:09
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chernobyl kinsman posted:you guys don't let me have any fun ...do you like, not care that people have killed themselves because they thought they were going to hell for being gay? or are you like... okay with that? with children being told they're going to hell unless they change, who upon finding that they can't kill themselves? the church teaches that people have same sex urges that can be subdued. this is empirically false. the church believes that according to natural law, same sex sexual behavior is unnatural. this is also empirically false. church teachings about sexuality are fundamentally flawed and lead people to kill themselves or others, or to sanctify the slow death that is systemic oppression. no amount of "well we should stop that" will change this. it is a feature, and has been since the biblical "man who lies with man should be put to death." full stop.
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Oct 8, 2017 05:15
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chernobyl kinsman posted:crazy, almost like the church doesn't see the liberation and normalization of lgbt people as a desirable goal in the way that you do yeah almost like they want us to die in the street like the aids ridden fags we are
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Oct 8, 2017 05:16
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i'm sorry i just don't find "the church should stop teaching that x is a sin because it causes emotional distress to people who believe themselves guilty of committing x sin" to be a compelling argument. it's not even an argument two people on opposite sides of the issue can really have, because you're presuming that the church's teaching on lgbt issues isn't intrinsically good, and someone defending those teachings would uh not agree with that. something intrinsically good wouldn't cause LITERAL CHILDREN TO BE TORTURED AND CAUSE THEM TO COMMIT SUICIDE my argument is "your beliefs kill people" and so far your argument is "it's worth it" you oppose abortion but don't oppose tormenting children into killing themselves. hope that fetus doesn't turn out gay, in the catholic church's ideal society they'd see some bad poo poo
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Oct 8, 2017 05:29
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chernobyl kinsman posted:sure, I agree. I'm just pushing the matter a bit hard here because I have no patience for arguments that the church ought to change its stance on x, y or z issue because of [consequentialist argument], and because senju is easy to get worked up. yeah i sure do have some personal issues with the catholic church's teachings on lgbt people because i used to be lgbt and catholic and almost became a priest because i refused to really examine the underlying reason why having a sexual and romantic relationship with a woman was completely and totally unappealing boy i hope you don't act like this to gay and or trans kids oh yeah i'm also livid about dead children and adults, what a great troll
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Oct 8, 2017 14:38
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Smoking Crow posted:I have a beard what's her name?
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Oct 8, 2017 21:28
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i can't believe the romans had kayfabe donkey shows
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Oct 12, 2017 08:18
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Mr Enderby posted:Ehh, I don't know what the gently caress was happening on the continent, but the problem with ECW was emphatically not a shortage of principles. You've read the Putney Debates. Does anyone there sound like they've ever admitted about being in the wrong about anything? i choose to interpret ecw in this post as extreme championship wrestling, because it could also apply there. just look up the mass transit incident. also thumbtack matches are really hosed up has nothing on japanese matches, tho. there was one extreme rules match that was all flourescent bulbs. over a hundred were broken during the match with all sorts of glass dust everywhere, the wrestlers bleeding all over the place. horrifying. anyway extreme rules wrestling is basically the gladiators of our time. heck people die in the ring sometimes too
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Oct 12, 2017 22:03
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something something please help me my family is dying
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Oct 18, 2017 04:47
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honestly scientists going "we're all going to eat bugs so we're developing bug recipes" and then just like... making whole roast bugs in a pile are why you don't have scientists cater your bbq that's not related but your thing about going veg for the environment made me think of it. get chefs in on your bug meals, scientists, and then maybe i'll think about it but until then stop trying to act like a steak and a fuckin pile of bugs are equal
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Oct 20, 2017 08:33
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what’s gonna happen when he takes communion??????
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Oct 21, 2017 09:25
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Ceciltron posted:The dead are dead, you are merely summoning demons hey man there are beings who because of their bad karma are reborn as ghosts who feel terrible hunger and thirst which they can’t sate, which means they’re in constant pain and misery. helping them helps you accrue positive karma. so you know whatev
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Ceciltron posted:The dead go to heaven, purgatory or hell and that is that. The rest is demons and the devil. I'm gonna pray you guys are kept safe from your own folly. actually the dead are reincarnated into any of a number of realms, and that includes your god who will eventually die and be reborn, likely as a cockroach
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