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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Public Serpent posted:

Got baptized today :toot:

And they let my kid ring the church bell!

:toot:

Welcome to the family!

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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

To think of it, He didn't stop me from stubbing my toe last week either.


Is that Constantine V thing a joke flying over my head? I only see a blank white square instead of an image.

Edit: Ohhhh! (Google is my friend and really is offering a CK2 portrait as a default image. :lol:)

Valiantman fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Jul 12, 2017

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
As a Finn, all the language gender stuff is really fascinating. I've said it before but we don't have any genders in our language besides the actual terms for men, women, males and females. Even the pronouns have only one option which is neutral. (Which incidentally makes some language-based murder mysteries or comedy plots really tough to translate from English.) We have some names of occupations that used to be mostly men's jobs (a fireman, an office-man...) but language is so neutral in the collective mind of the Finns that referring to women with those terms is rarely an oddity. Some of them are phasing out in favour of more neutral terms but many of them very slowly. Why use a clumsier, unfamiliar term when the original is just a name of the occupation?

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
Personally, I have a person extremely close to me, who has lost their faith and turned pretty bitter towards religiosity within few years. They're so close to me that due to their hostility I can't begin to preach to them to not alienate myself from them. I do feel sort of anguish and it's only really alleviated by two things: I can't know how things will go in the end and God is nevertheless good. I do know I'll be praying for them until the end of my life though.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I like Caufman's detailed dissection of the question. Puts into words something about why afterlife is tough to talk about - it's not always apparent, what perspective the person asking is interested in.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Mystic Mongol posted:

The problem with having no Baptist pope is there's no one to yell at whoever taught you that.

At its most basic I think blaspheming the Holy Spirit means putting the works of Man above the works of God, usually by saying, "God can't forgive what I've done."

As a wise pastor told our group of youngsters long ago: "If you're worried about that, it means the Holy Spirit is doing His work and that means you can stop burdening yourself with that particular worry."

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Numerical Anxiety posted:

It's the legacy of Augustine's theology regarding original sin and our fallen state. And yes, you probably should feel guilty all the time, but then you should also have guilt about the self-indulgence that guilt is.

And about the pride that inevitably raises it's head when you notice you actually feel guilty about all of that, compared to all those people who do not.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I couldn't help but laugh out loud when I reached the second last row.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Caufman posted:

Have you heard the joke about the pope and the sonuvabitch fish? Like that, I imagine.

I haven't and I'd very much like to know.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

HEY GAIL posted:

so mostly we hear about the aryans hanging around trump, but the Arians who like him have also said a thing:



I'll be honest here. Setting aside the thing that focusing on such matters shouldn't really be as large a focus as it seems to be, what that council says there doesn't seem to differ from mainstream Christianity's teachings very much. What points stick out particularily to you (all)?

Now, I know we have both gay and transgender people here in the thread and even if there weren't, let me say that the above question is strictly theological and one of the reasons I asked what I did is because I'm not at all familiar with English language debate on these matters. It's pretty probable I can't read the meanings behind all those words in the context. A bit like how, in Lutheran circles, someone describing themselves as confessional sends out all kinds of strong signals not at all apparent to outsiders. I do see some very problematic parts there myself but I'd rather play dumb and ask than assume my interpretations are correct.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Public Serpent posted:

Oh, for sure those are two different things, and I phrased that poorly. I just meant that my own situation (lesbian, married) makes me reluctant to even disagree with people about the gay stuff. I don't want to feel like I'm rules lawyering myself into a position of never questioning the rightness of my actions. Ultimately, I'm usually comfortable with my marriage and my family being what it is, but it's through trusting God, not through some unassailable mathebiblical proof that gay = ok.

I tried to write more here but I'm terrible at turning thoughts into words today so y'all were spared a whole lot of :words:

Actually, that's quite well put. I'm fairly sure that's a common stance when it comes to lot of things. Not sure more needs to be said, exactly because that would invite people to argue. Not that that kind of discussion isn't good but when it's that personal, it should only really be among friends.

Thanks for replies to that committee thing, by the way. The thread continues to be a good place to expect replies in good faith.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

feedmegin posted:

I've always thought Paul suspicious as gently caress with his 'Jesus came to me as a ghost in the desert where noone else could see us' and his v standard 1st century Roman Empire dude social views tbh

Is there a version of Christianity that chucks his bullshit out?

I don't think that would be called Christianity.

Cythereal posted:

Think it was in the same passage where he says it's sinful for women to enter church with their head uncovered.

Deuteronomy 22:11 at least. I'm fairly positive Paul has nothing of it.

e: after some googling, Leviticus 19:19 also.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Pellisworth posted:

You tap your gaudy lace slippers together three times while saying "there's no place like Rome" then consume the host. The host may be of a different color.

:golfclap:

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

That avatar.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

CountFosco posted:

What kind of religious podcasts do people here listen to/enjoy, anyway? Currently I'm subscribed to:

Religions of the Ancient Mediterranean
The Illumined Heart
The Anglican Internet Church
The Areopagus
The Deconstructionists
A History of Christian Theology
Light of the East
More than One Lesson
The Morning Offering
Pop Culture Coffee Hour
Reasonable Faith Podcast (don't judge)
Trinities
Unbelievable
Voices From St Vladimir's Seminary.

That's actually way more than I realized. Any good ones out there that people recommend?

Way off-topic but I always thought podcasts, what little I know of them, were basically just recordings of some radio shows (or the like) a bit like how you'd record a tv show that you might want to watch later. Them having an actual active audience is a surprise. I may sound dumb but is listening to podcasts as common as your list suggests? When do people listen to them? :shobon:

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Slimy Hog posted:

I listen to them on my train commute, when washing dishes, in the shower, cleaning etc. Pretty much any time that I don't need to concentrate on the task at hand.

That seems like the exact opposite to how talk radio would work for me. Funny how the brains function. I wouldn't want to have anything else to do at the time. Maybe excepting the dishwasing.

I guess I just default to music usually, though I do sometimes listen to the one solely-talk-radio channel there is if I'm on a longer car drive. Say, 2+ hours.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

HEY GAIL posted:

tilly was volcel. no porn there.

I hate being able to infer what that world means. And also, isn't it just plain celibate.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
We have a church tax, generally 1-2% depending on the parish, that is collected by the state along with your other taxes and who then gives it to the church, which pays the state for the service. Remnant of the state church(es)? Yes! Discourages donating and makes you think you don't need to since you get taxed already? Sure! Handy for calculating the next year's budget? Oh thank goodness, I have 4 sub-budgets to calculate this week.

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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
For the next week, I probably will be silently complaining, how some imported superficial festival with vaguely worrying themes (from the perspective of a child/youth worker) has penetrated our media in few short years. Our Lutheran version of the All Hallow's Day is merely the candles-in-church for all those who've been called home since last year, plus a visit to the graveyard.

No saint stuff since there aren't any. :dawkins101:

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