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thechosenone posted:So, like, what do you think god's day should be used for? Like, for Christians, and for non-Christians who are affected by it? For Christians who think the Sabbath is still binding -- note that some of these consider Saturday the Sabbath --, sure, go ahead, close your business, take the day off. For Christians who don't, go to church, go to meeting, go to the park, whatever. For non-Christians working for Christians, there should be fair employment laws whose details I am not competent to describe. Fundamentally? People ought to get to observe holy days. Details to be worked out handwave handwave. The government and government institutions should not favor one holy day over another. For instance, public universities holding exams over Yom Kippur, something that has happened more than once? Right Out. It's fine to have Christmas break, because December vacation is pretty much ingrained into American society at this point, but if people want to work Christmas in exchange for getting [insert your favorite holiday] off, that should be a possibility. Also I want a pony.
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A complication of blue laws/ Sunday closings that is rarely acknowledged is that for many people contemplation is an unattainable luxury. If you have only two days off a week, and Sunday cannot be used for anything else, you have to cram all of your weekly errands into Saturday. Then, on Sunday, if you run out of milk or diapers, you can be SOL. Furthermore, if you want to go to the library, or to take the children out for entertainment anywhere other than church, again you're SOL. The demands of daily life do not stop dead on Sunday.
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Dec 1, 2016 19:27
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The Phlegmatist posted:No worries. I know you know your stuff. I just didn't want people to get the wrong idea. Never trust anybody whose favorite books of the Bible are Revelation and Daniel.
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Dec 2, 2016 02:15
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Deteriorata posted:Daniel is cool because we can pin down when it was written almost to the day. The "prophesies" about the King of the North and what he was going to do start diverging from what actually happened just about September, 164 BC. Cythereal posted:Daniel is a fine book, the story of Daniel and the lion's den was one of my favorites as a kid. There's just... really weird parts of the book, too.
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Dec 2, 2016 03:36
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That was a wonderful post. Thank you.
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Dec 2, 2016 05:18
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Worthleast posted:Double posting, but the best part about this is that her visions were written down and edited by her confessor, who was later revealed to be a freemason. That really messes with the ultra rad trads. IIRC (sorry, migraine today, brain fried) when they made her a Saint they also said some of the private revelations don't count?
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Dec 2, 2016 23:19
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Worthleast posted:Emmerich was canonized? My mistake; so far she's just beatified, with the caveat that the crazy prophesies don't count toward the beatification. "...the books produced by Brentano were set aside, and her cause adjudicated solely on the basis of her own personal sanctity and virtue.[5] Father Peter Gumpel who was involved in the analysis of the matter at the Vatican told Catholic News Service: "Since it was impossible to distinguish what derives from Sister Emmerich and what is embroidery or additions, we could not take these writings as a criteria. Therefore, they were simply discarded completely from all the work for the cause"" You will not be surprised that Mel Gibson is all about Catherine Emmerich and based parts of The Passion of the Christ on her narrative.
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Dec 3, 2016 00:36
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HEY GAL posted:there are hats though And dresses. Man, I want those dresses.
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Dec 3, 2016 18:34
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HEY GAL posted:and names i can't pronounce, all in all A Good Eastern European Post Thread critical factors to consider when converting: 1. Hats. 2. Ratio of decorations to naked wall 3. Bells. 4. Smells. ... 105. Theology.
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Dec 3, 2016 21:34
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The Phlegmatist posted:Etsy has them, so I'm sure some hipster out there has one. Etsy also has stash rosaries that let you hide your weed in the cross because why not. I used to have a poison ring that I wanted to keep my migraine pills in, but then the pills started having to be foil-sealed to preserve freshness.
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Dec 5, 2016 20:14
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Bel_Canto posted:my university choir has, i just learned, decided to schedule our concert on the holiest night of the year. once i've calmed down from apoplectic rage, exactly how much poo poo should i raise over this? Lots. See if you can find other people who are going to (I'm guessing??) midnight Mass so that you can say "Ten of us have religious obligations that night, can you please reschedule, because I'm sure people in the audience will have the same issue"?
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Dec 6, 2016 01:50
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Bel_Canto posted:What I mean is that our concert happens on Holy Saturday/Easter Vigil, which is in fact the holiest night of the year. Turns out it was the university itself that forced us to do it; they booted us out of what would be our normal slot so they could have a major hoopla in the central auditorium/concert space on campus. Ughhhh this is so infuriating. e: It's not just about obligations, though. The Vigil is one of the most beautiful ceremonies of the year.
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Dec 6, 2016 06:05
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HEY GAL posted:You can forgive people and still desire that justice be done for a whole lot of reasons--upholding an honest social order, making sure it never happens to anyone again, a warning to people who would do the same, etc
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Dec 7, 2016 18:32
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HEY GAL posted:oh, no doubt, but you could extend The Phlegmatist's question to all punishments administered by someone who isn't you. Is it OK to demand [x] even if you've forgiven the person who wronged you?
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Dec 7, 2016 22:49
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Bel_Canto posted:could i ask for everyone's prayers? this is the second weekend in a row that i've been too ill to go to Mass, and it's making me really miserable not to be able to be in the presence of God and partake of the Sacrament. You betcha. Hope you get well soon.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:40
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Josef bugman posted:Is there anything that all Christian sects, or the larger ones lets say, believe is an evil?
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Dec 12, 2016 19:39
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Josef bugman posted:I'd like it if the ten commandments had an additional: "THOU SHALT NOT SHITPOST". Youtube areas would be a smoldering wasteland, but it might help matters. I suppose that makes sense. Something I am not too sure about but I do find interesting. Again sorry if I come across as stupid. I am trying.
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Dec 14, 2016 22:05
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WerrWaaa posted:I will be able to teach a few adult ed classes at my local Episcopal parish in the coming year. If you were given the choice to teach/learn something at church, what would it be? and how would you structure it?
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Dec 15, 2016 01:47
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Can I ask for you guys's prayers? My husband's anxiety meds stopped working the week before he was fired from a job he hated, and now he's jobhunting, something that always makes him anxious, right before the Xmas holidays when most companies aren't trying to hire. His doctor is prescribing a sub-clinical dose of one SSRI to taper him off the previous SSRI, and won't update the dose until next month for medical reasons. He's running on rims at the moment. Thanks.
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Dec 17, 2016 22:24
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Pershing posted:St. Dymphyna please pray with us. (reads her legend) Wow, if I were assigning her a sainthood outside of Tradition, I'd have made her the Patron of incest survivors.
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There's apparently a copypasta going around (in Europe as well as the U.S.) saying that the Blessed Anne Emmerich (‽) and Medugorje (‽‽‽) predicted Satan would be ruling 2016. Edited from Tumblr:quote:I noticed it on facebook where on news posts would occasionally pop up someone saying “just a little bit more, we just have to bear it for a little more” and I was like ??? but then I did some research and found out that 2016 is believed to be the last year of satan’s 100 years of free reign on the earth (the thing was caused by one of the bets that god and satan tends to do occasionally, and that pope Leo XIII saw in a vision in 1884). one of the sources spreading the theory is HERE, but of course it’s all in italian. some points are:
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Dec 20, 2016 02:11
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Worthleast posted:Old Canon law is awesome. Because you know for every wacky case in there, there was a real case in history that happened, and the Church needed to discourage it from happening in the future. The whole "is it a valid marriage" thing for converted Catholics is complicated by how the convert were married and to whom. There is a thing called the Petrine privilege that says that if you, a baptised person, marry a non-baptised person and then convert to Catholicism, you can have the marriage to the non-baptised person annulled for the good of your soul. The Pauline privilege says the same thing, but if you're both non-baptised. Then you get out into the weeds about what, precisely, qualifies as non-baptised, which is what makes canon law so exciting.
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Dec 21, 2016 01:52
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Bel_Canto posted:Well, all of us resident papists in the thread can start panicking, because the blood of St. Januarius failed to liquefy this year, which apparently heralds disaster in the year to come. I bet it's retroactive.
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Bel Canto, I'm curious: what's the theological difference between saying "I baptize you" and assuming it has no effect if the person is ineligible or already baptized; and saying "If you aren't already baptized / are capable of being baptized I baptize you"? I notice that there are several formulas of baptism you called out, as well as the ones for rebaptizing converts if their original baptism is of uncertain form, that are careful to specify that they're valid only where recognized. Hmm. Is there any circumstance where you'd say over a Host "If this is not already the Body of our Lord, I consecrate it?" Like, if the priest died at an unclear point in the institution?
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The Phlegmatist posted:If you baptize somebody twice their sins are forgiven too much. There's an integer underflow and they immediately burst into flames and turn into Satan.  Gives a whole new meaning to "halt and catch fire". e: quote:as a thought experiment, let's say someone comes into the classroom where Father Joe is teaching some eighth graders about confirmation. "Father Joe, there's been an emergency at Mass, come help!" And Father Joe comes into the sanctuary where Father Duc lies dead slumped over the altar. The ciborium and chalice are there. Father Joe doesn't speak Vietnamese, and can't ask any of the parishioners to ascertain how far Father Duc was into the consecration. Does he consecrate again? At this point, you just make a Perfect Act of Contrition For What I Am About To Do, consecrate the Blood, consume the whole drat ciborium, and hope God sorts it out. * to the Altar Guild ee: For maximum verisimilitude, the mass in question is the 10AM Wednesday mass, and the only people present were Mrs. Tranh's grandmother, Mrs. Tranh's great-aunt, and Mrs. Tranh's baby, whom her great-grandmother and great-great-aunt were babysitting. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 21, 2016 |
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HEY GAL posted:capybara (it was friday at the time)
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Dec 21, 2016 20:42
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Oh, no, Lovecraft fights. [summons dread Cthulhu to end her suffering early].
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Dec 22, 2016 17:08
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The Phlegmatist posted:Yep, and also for most conservative Protestants too. What dark secret lies behind the spaghetti dinners? We shall never know. Back when Wikileaks did all sorts of leaks, not just Russian propaganda, I read the Masonic rituals. The worst I remember of them is that they were vaguely "We all worship the same God, the rest are details" which obviously isn't acceptable to any denomination that isn't universalist.
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Dec 22, 2016 17:43
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HEY GAL posted:well i believe this, the question is just how you interpret that statement. for instance, i believe protestants worship the same god as i do, but are wrong. It was the "the rest is details" part (e: not an actual quote, a dim summary) that I think would get up most denominations' noses.
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Dec 22, 2016 17:47
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Tias posted:Aw, you my homie "On The Creation of N------" No. Lovecraft wasn't "a creature of his times". He took racism to a Stormfront level, not just a "well, it was in the air" level.
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Dec 23, 2016 18:25
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my dad posted:I never said anything about reading and appreciating his literary work. But actually honoring the guy? Blah. This. And buying Lovecraft's work doesn't benefit him anyway, because (a) he is dead and (b) it is probably out of copyright now.
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Hey, guys! It's been a really rough month chez Lupin. I'm in deep despair after a mere 6 days of Trump. I'm calling representatives and such, but I'm disabled and that's about all I can do. How are you guys doing? What's sustaining you?
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Jan 26, 2017 05:47
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Senju Kannon posted:it's just too bad conservative christians ignore passages like "from each according to their means and to each according to their needs,"
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Senju Kannon posted:there's a passage in acts where the apostles have the community pool together their money and they distribute it to each according to their specific needs
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