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Having been raised Catholic myself, and gone through the Catholic school system (at least from 4th grade forward), I cannot say I got a very solid grounding in Catholic practice. It honestly wasn't until I became Episcopalian that I began to learn about and appreciate Catholic spirituality and practice. That said, I know the feeling. When I decided to try Orthodoxy, one reason I went with the Greek parish was because I figured there'd be more cradle Orth's there. I wanted to be around people who'd grown up in Orthodoxy and gotten comfortable with it. Half of it turned out to be converts anyway, but I still like the vibe there.
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Semi related: https://twitter.com/erlosungen/status/901425940462542848 I'm starting to wonder if WSJ reads this thread.
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Aug 26, 2017 16:46
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For a statement about sexual morality, it has such a narrow focus on LGBT issues. It has a token mention of heterosexual immorality, but hardly elaborates on it at all. I kind of can't believe that there's no mention of pornography, and no direct mention of hookup culture; on the other hand, they've found themselves with our most pornified president ever, so maybe that's no wonder. It's a cliche at this point that conservative Christians focus on homosexuality and virtually ignore behavior by straight people, and this group is living up to it perfectly. The Orthodox fall into this trap, too, but I can at least still find plenty of work on chastity that focuses primarily on straight--even married!--people. It hardly has anything to say about what LGBT people--or anybody, for that matter--should do, except "don't." Or potentially "Die alone and unloved." That even leaves "Side-B" gay Christians crowd out of luck, and having read plenty of Spiritual Friendship, I know it's difficult enough for them as it is. I get the sense that the people behind this statement would love to endorse ex-gay ministries, but know it's political poison at this point to say it out loud. HEY GAIL posted:edit: also when i said Arian I literally meant it: this organization believes Christ is subordinate to the Father.
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Aug 30, 2017 15:19
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HEY GAIL posted:such an old school heresy to find in the wild
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HEY GAIL posted:I think this is the group that argues that women are subordinate to men by arguing that the relationship of wife to husband should be analogous to the relationship of christ to the Father. They backed themselves into Arianism through trying to find a rationale for their sexism. They call it "eternal subordination of the son." This has been going on at least since 1991. Speaking of Arianism, Twitter has alerted me to an interesting coincidence: today's the feast of St. Alexander of Constantinople. His bio on the OCA website has this to say about him: quote:The heretic Arius was punished through the prayer of Saint Alexander. Arius had apparantly agreed to enter into communion with the Orthodox. When the Emperor asked him if he believed as the Fathers of Nicea taught, he placed his hand upon his breast (where he had cunningly concealed beneath his clothes a document with his own false creed written upon it) and said, “This is what I believe!” Saint Constantine (May 21), unaware of the deceitful wickedness of Arius, set a day for receiving him into the Church. All night long Saint Alexander prayed, imploring the Lord not to permit this heretic to be received into communion with the Church. (I'd link to the tweet, but I don't want to mess up the poster's mentions.)
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Aug 30, 2017 17:32
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feedmegin posted:Is there a version of Christianity that chucks his bullshit out?
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Aug 30, 2017 23:25
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Deteriorata posted:It usually takes going back to the original Greek meaning of the words, and putting them in the context of 1st century Roman society, though, which is hard so most people don't do it. Plus it's a lot easier to quote the English version to confirm your biases. We recently studied this book in our Sunday School class, which was useful to a lot of people. Mostly I just tend to find that Jesus and Paul have a lot more in common than many people realize.
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Sep 1, 2017 21:52
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The Phlegmatist posted:Our Lady, Star of the Sea, pray for us. How are the Waffle Houses?
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Sep 8, 2017 04:16
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Y'know, I tell myself sometimes that I should read the documents of Vatican II, but I've already got so much on my plate. Right now I'm something like 1/8th of the way through Don Quixote.
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Sep 14, 2017 04:14
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Fr. Michael Oleksa's Orthodox Alaska convinced me both that (1) translating into local languages is an essential missionary tool (the Russians translated as much as they could into Native Alaskan languages, and invented alphabets to do it), and (2) churches should also use and teach the original languages (by the time the Russians left, Native Alaskans tended to be bi- or tri-lingual). At the very least, I'm a lot more okay with Greek parishes using Greek than I was before.
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Sep 15, 2017 20:57
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Set the Jesus Prayer on an endless loop...
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Sep 20, 2017 23:37
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The Orthodox cathedrals I've been to (Tokyo, Anchorage) both had chapels off to the side, each even with its own iconostasis. I think in the Tokyo cathedral they had confessions there. Dunno how they're used during the week, though.
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Oct 2, 2017 21:17
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Weyward, which is, according to their Twitter, "A podcast talking about how our society handles weirdness & wondering if religion could help us do a better job."
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Oct 5, 2017 01:03
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One of my coworkers had a tithe on her childhood allowance. So yeah, not the sort of thing you want to make into an absolute. Off the top of my head, the New Testament seems more concerned with giving what you have (the widow at the Temple), giving what you promised (Ananias and Saphira), or just giving everything (sell everything you own...).
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Oct 18, 2017 04:31
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Crap, I know the pic you're talking about, and now I wish I had it.
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Oct 20, 2017 21:51
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If it's the beef I'm thinking of, it was about an article by Matthew Walther--who is incredibly Catholic--about the Harvey Weinstein fallout: "Against Sex." The "gnostic" objection came from his description of sex as "meat rubbed against meat for a few minutes."
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