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8bitlawd posted:So my xbox one died but I've got an ancient gtx660 in my comp, which just so happens to fall under the recommended specs for Fifa 17. I've never played any of the previous titles on the PC before, so I've got a few questions. 1. It's a fraction of the size of the console communities and FUT is rife with cheaters (they terminate the match as soon as it starts and get themselves a win. largely it's just an inconvenience) but there are still thousands of people playing all the popular game modes. Sometimes when we played pro clubs we'd face the same club several times in a row though, stuff like that. 2. I have a GTX780 and a core i7-4820k, I run 16 at a constant 250FPS, you'll probably be able to run it at max settings and get at solid framerate. it will actually run much better than it would on the xbox 1 most likely. 3. That's kind of up to you to decide, in the xbox you'll have an easier time finding low-latency matches, it really depends on your preferences, I found I prefer to play FIFA on my PC as I watch TV shows and movies on the secondary monitor.
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Sep 22, 2016 18:30
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Okay so tabbing out of FIFA or clicking on a different window will just drop your connection from online matches instantly, both on FUT and in pro-clubs. What the gently caress EA?
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Sep 23, 2016 10:01
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It's gonna be a pain in pro clubs now that they removed the origin chat rooms you could access from within the game, going to have to switch to voice chat or use our smartphones. It's also super stupid cause there's a ton of apps that automatically pop to foreground like iTunes. I hope this gets fixed soon.
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Sep 23, 2016 15:07
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Seltzer posted:e- What is people's experience with headers this year? Both my teams have two short strikers so I haven't messed with it yet. I felt like the attackers just get a huge bonus when trying to win headers and that defenders don't even jump most of the time. I've scored 4-5 goals straight from the corner though, it seems easy.
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Sep 24, 2016 06:31
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My impressions of the game: Player switching hasn't been fixed, it's as bad as always. Shielding is very useful but players often don't seem to know which player they're supposed to shield it from and would shield from a player further apart from the ball giving away position to one closer to it. The tackling radius of defenders has been greatly increased and generally they pull off more appropriate tackling animations that are more likely to win possession. Containment and team containment has been nerfed even further, if EA want to discourage players form using it they can just remove it and free the buttons for something else. The fact that team tactics can now be edited permanently means that more team play ultra-high pressure, so I guess soon enough everyone would just switch to 'hektic jukez high pressure tactics' and that's all you're gonna see all year. All the cunts do Pogba's dab celebration. Skills have been nerfed, players can't seem to start the animations when they're off balance and would take another touch first, moreover the exit animations now seem more random so skill moves will often induce heavier touches and give away possession. Defenders are also better at tackling after a skill move. Rip ball rolls. Goalkeepers now dominate the near post, even from very close to goal, 1vs1 situations are no longer guaranteed scoring opportunities like they were in 16. Players in general need to take more touches before they can take a shot, it's much harder to shoot from the volley or tap into an empty net. Pace, Strength, Dribble are still the most important stats. Threaded through ball is not a new feature, it just allows you control whether the through ball will be played through the defenders or ahead of the player, in 16 it would automatically opt for a threaded through ball. No-touch dribble has been slightly nerfed when stationary but you can still use it to do rapid diagonal direction changes when sprinting, so it's still OP when abused. Goalkeepers have better positional routines but still constantly parry the ball directly to the path of the attackers. I conceded 4-5 goals from bad deflections. The squad building challenges are cool. The manager actions have been revamped and if you just do them you'll start off with 3-4 extra packs and several thousand coins. Menez is a beast and a great cheap starting striker.
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Sep 24, 2016 06:54
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black.lion posted:Tell you what tho fake shot/cross isn't nearly as good as it used to be, animation seems to be a bit slower. No so permanent I think. Please repost or invite me: albertros420.
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Sep 25, 2016 20:55
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I'm loving Menez so far, pacey, decent shooting, great dribbling 4*\4* and you can get him from like 3k coins. N'tep is another great cheapish Ligue 1 player, he's like a slightly downgraded martial but still great. In fact I built a rather spiffy full chem Ligue 1 team for something like 15k and I'm pretty happy about it.
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Sep 27, 2016 09:08
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Nah I'm on PC, gonna assume that many people are going right now with an N'tep - Menez - Lucas front three, quality players for relatively cheap etc.
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Sep 27, 2016 10:03
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Just unpacked Hummels "Ones To Watch" untradeable from a gold swap challenge. I guess I'm gonna have to build a bundesliga squad now.
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Sep 30, 2016 23:32
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 Of course my opponent also had 2 injuries of his own. This is super fun EA, great job.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:09
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Dollas posted:Free pro club goals tip: Be 6'7 and grab power header + strength. Slam request lob pass and enjoy trying out 4-5 goal celebrations per game. With the two pace boosts i got a 6'7 dude with 94 strength and 87 pace, this is utterly broken. I'm loving it.
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Oct 6, 2016 18:10
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hopterque posted:I'm reasonably sure that you're not supposed to see the arrow in any mp setting, period. Sometimes you do though, I'm not really sure what's up with it either.
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Oct 9, 2016 22:50
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Career mode is still there, Journey is a separate mode that wraps a rather flimsy story around a player career mode. Dunno if it has any improvements. Anyway this was sorta funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf2Byu0_HP8
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Oct 12, 2016 12:53
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The difference between 1 pace and 99 pace is something like 4 km\h, less than 10% of the max sprint speed of a 99 sprint player. I'm pretty sure that chem does exactly what it's advertised to do, at least irt to every stat that can be measured, the differences are just not that noticeable by themselves.
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Oct 13, 2016 06:43
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the chem bonuses just break any semblance of balance FIFA has, FUT is all about min\maxing and building totally OP squads. an 82 rated squad in FUT is the equivalent of a 90 rated squad in h2h seasons, it's just a big mess.
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Oct 13, 2016 10:08
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First patch released - https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/191937/fifa-17-title-update-1 Highlights - VP stats have been nerfed, VP faces have been fixed. Triple tap crosses nerfed, GK positioning in corners tweaked, skill move exits should have been improved.
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Oct 14, 2016 11:37
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Do the flicked layoff thingy, nobody expects it and it makes you look like a skilling douch. Which is a good thing, imo.
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Oct 16, 2016 18:56
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I think injuries are more frequent in 17 but I can't really be sure. Now that they removed the players being stretchered out of the game they're a lot less annoying.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:23
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I've never had a fitness squad and I'm not gonna make one. I'd rather blow coins on fitness and injury cards and just play with my best squad, thank you very much.
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Oct 18, 2016 15:08
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Seltzer posted:The striker situation is a bummer. Dzyuba and Smolov aren't cutting it. I have OTW Giuliano in a false 9 with witsel and shatov but the false 9 seems to suck this year. I can't get my wingers to make good runs which wasn't a problem in every other fifa. All players insist on getting behind the ball at the oddest times, it's very annoying when wingers do it.
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Oct 18, 2016 18:44
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So there's this french 75 rated CM named Bryan Dabo who has pretty decent stats, I applied the Sentinel style on him and he's been an incredible CDM for me, his stats are rather impressive on full chem:
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Oct 18, 2016 20:29
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Seltzer posted:This will probably be the last time I bring this up since it's not provable either way and can enter scripting/momentum tinfoil territory but I'll reiterate that the stat boosts simply don't feel like as big as they're claimed to be and that I saw a high level pro player answering questions about this years edition and echoed my sentiments exactly. He said what I thought earlier- chem styles confer a boost but not near what EA has said they do. The guy who said this is the same guy who would use the non-upgraded 83 Griezmann over the 84 nif Griezmann in tournaments because he knew that card performed better from hours of playing despite it going against logic. This was before his thoughts were confirmed by the chemgate poo poo that showed that upgraded nif cards were on base chem. So basically I trust the pro's opinion on the matter. Until chemgate 2 comes along we'll never know for sure. As I said, I think it's safe to assume that any stat that people know how to measure (basically only dribbling) get the proper boost, as for the rest, placebo is a hell of a drug. I think some stats just don't make much of a noticeable difference or have rather unimpressive returns when you hit the upper end of the range, Pace for instance, it feels like the difference between 87 and 98 isn't that huge, I have Di Maria and first I used catalyst on him but I felt he couldn't really burst past players despite his pace, then I switched to Sniper that has a +15 dribbling boost and no pace boost and it feels like no one can catch up to him. Either way, Dabo feels like a stonewall to me, his height plays a huge part in it for sure but he really feels like no one can push him off the ball and I don't believe it would have been that way with only 79 str.
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Oct 18, 2016 21:09
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So yeah some guy on reddit repeated most of the experiments that people came up with during Chemgate and found that the stat distribution advertised by EA is wrong, I didn't actually read it in depth but I think the stat boosts are still large and in some cases even larger - https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/58ffrp/finally_figured_out_chem_boosts_down_to_a_science/
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Oct 20, 2016 12:12
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It's funny what a difference playing at different hours of the day makes in regards to the skill level of your opponents. Yesterday night I tried to qualify to the weekend league, I played 3 matches out of my four attempts, reached the finals twice and lost once in penalties and once in regular times, almost every match (even before the final) was challenging, good opponents who played very aggressive defense etc, it sucked rear end. I was too tired to play the fourth attempt and figured out it was probably gonna be simpler to attempt to qualify during the day, so this afternoon I tried again and won every match with 2+ goals. Don't waste your qualification attempts at odd hours in which only hardcore players play, I guess. So yeah, gonna try the weekend league for the first time, I hope it doesn't suck.
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Oct 21, 2016 18:56
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Dirk Pitt posted:I packed Griezmann and Buffon, and I have Modric. Can anyone give me an idea on a good série a la liga hybrid? http://www.futhead.com/17/squads/1519665/ That one would be pretty good I'd think but kinda pricey, there are cheaper alternatives for a few players though.
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Oct 22, 2016 15:23
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Yeah the weekend league is meh and frustrating, on PC it's only 25 matches and I have 8 left and I'm already completely fed up with it. Can't imagine needing to play 20 matches just to get the rewards. EA are mental, it should be 25 matches for all platforms.
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Oct 23, 2016 19:04
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Ah well. Still, 40 matches is insanity.
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Oct 23, 2016 19:10
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2 Jumbo Premium Gold Packs = 48 cards 14 rares Mega Pack + Rare Gold Pack = 42 cards 30 rares. Plus the 5000 coins. It's probably worth it.
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Did anyone try Lacazette? His stats are so similar to Menez barring a few exceptions (strength, mostly) that I really wonder if he's worth 65k compared to Menez going for 1k. Edit: Well he was going for 64k this morning while last night lowest bin was 70k, figured it's worth giving him a try. emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Screw around with the custom tactics, it makes a lot of difference this year. I can post mine when I'm back home later. I also find that having a tough as nails midfield that can put significant pressure on the ball movers does a hell of a difference particularly if you don't like to sit back and play count attacking, I play Matuidi and Dabo and just constantly harass the ball movers. Not that my record is anything amazing, it's about 50% wins, Div 1. Also get Menez, Martial and Ben Arfa cause those guys are sick.
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Oct 26, 2016 09:06
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Oh btw guys, list all your unneeded silver players now, due to the FUT champs silver qualification tourney people are willing to overpay for lovely silvers.
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Oct 26, 2016 13:42
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JunkDeluxe posted:I've played a lot of FIFA the last 10 years. I feel like I am really struggling this year. 1. that's a thing. gently caress around with your custom tactics to make them a bit more proactive but players this year have a new routine where they run back to receive the ball. Players with High defensive workrates suck for this reason. the "speed" and "passing" settings in custom tactics make players run forward faster and make riskier runs. Also of course L1 triggers manual runs. 2. you have to shield the ball if a defender touches you cause otherwise the attacker's feet disengage from his brain for some odd reason and he stops running. 3. if people defend aggressively they'll get turned around your attacker when you shield the ball. 4. shield the ball, get way more fouls. Just shield the ball, I guess would be the gist of what I'm saying. shielding gives a huge advantage to the player with the ball, regardless of strength difference. Also, try this one cool defensive trick EA don't want you to know about : manually switch control to one of your attackers and hold R1, observe as your team maintains perfect shape and wins possession back without you having to do anything. I was skeptical at first as well but it works more often than not!
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Oct 26, 2016 18:22
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PC parmos exists, sort of. Join us on the discord channel - https://discord.gg/ZbXHsu6
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Oct 27, 2016 08:21
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The discrepancy between OVR and actual player stats\performance in 17 is probably the worst it's ever been (for regular cards, IFs have always had arbitrary OVRs), Lacazette is a poo poo card that plays a lot worse than Menez (shorter, worse dribbling, worse weakfoot), his only advantage is +5 finishing and that's nearly meaningless cause with Menez you'll get into way better positions and shoot well with both feet. Don't buy, imo. I switched to a 41212 and use Ben Yedder alongside Menez, another awesome striker who only goes for 850 coins. Yet another player who is all in all underwhelming despite his high OVR is matuidi, short, poo poo passing, 2*\2*, isn't particularly strong and has really poor dribbling; Dabo honestly just performs so much better. It looks like Kante might be good but he'll screw my chemistry. As for players who are actually worth it, Thiago Silva is really great in this, I pair him up with Kamil Glik IF (which I bought for like 28k) who is also very good, a touch slow but it matters less this year, particularly for tall\strong defenders. Ben Arfa is still just about the best player in the game though, really recommend buying him.
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Oct 28, 2016 13:31
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I like Martial, his passing is a bit poo poo but he makes up for it with his pace, strength and dribbling. And yeah free kicks are poo poo, I also just do the lay off or simply pass, not worth taking a pop with how weird they are. As for breaking the defensive\counter-attacking players, I actually don't think it's that big of a deal, my team is pretty much all agile dribblers so it's easy to just walk the ball and force the opponent to press and then you just play a 1-2 pass behind him, very easy to pull of on the wing. Really those tactics force the opponent to be incredibly passive so just play the ball patiently and force him to start chasing you around, if you set your mentality to ultra attacking you can also force your opponent to kick long balls all game long as he won't have many passing options in the back. Oh and I now think Niang and Menez might be the best strikers in the game.
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Does anyone else find the weekend league to be significantly easier and less cagey than normal division play or the qualification tournament? Obviously this has to do with me being at div 1 which is 100% full of fuckers but idk, the weekend league just feels so laid back. My first match of this WL  Ben Arfa with 5, Niang 3 assists. I love those dudes.
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Nov 4, 2016 08:31
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Seltzer posted:I gave Menez a try the other night based on advice here. He's definitely really really good and is a perfect example of a card that plays way above it's rating. Unfortunately,I didn't like the rest of the squad so I'm sidelining him for now. Try this: http://www.futhead.com/17/squads/1952091/ Not cheap or anything but 3 5 star skillers, everyone in the front five has at least 4 star skills and 4 star weak foot (except for ADM, but you can swap him for Lucas anyway), all can dribble. It's pretty fun. emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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People in r\fifa complain about how hard it is to score against AFK players but whenever it happens to me I just walk the ball towards the defenders (walk! don't sprint) which forces the cursor to change, at that point the 'controlled defender' becomes a dummy and won't tackle the ball so you just continue walking around him repeat until you're in a good scoring position, etc. It is annoying cause whenever you miss you're gonna wait about 60 seconds until the GK is forced to kickoff and the match takes around 25 minutes to complete but it's really easy to win. I think people just try to sprint through the defense which is something the AI reacts very competently to by covering for one another and occasionally even doing automatic clearances but really if you let go of sprint the AI does nothing at all when you approach it.
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