Fututor Magnus posted:Maybe take a look at any MoonMan "parody" song and come back to me on whether the alt-right is any better than the establishment right. The alt-right really has this weird thing about them where they swear up and down that conservative people make "true art" and stinky liberals make doo doo art that is for degenerate pedophiles, and yet every time someone aligned with the alt-right makes something, it's the most embarrassing poo poo, like making YouTube rap songs in which Microsoft Sam raps about killing black people over a picture of the Moon Man from the Mac Tonight commercials shooting black people, the entirety of the book "The Gorilla Mindset", this gem of a video in which stolen art from Shadow of the Colossus and Attack on Titan tries to and fails to defeat a villainous Karl Marx, and other various turds. gently caress, I talked with one of those twerps and he swore up and down that video game concept art is the true heir to the Renaissance and that all modern art is on par with that one video where a lady smears Spaghetti-O's on her vagina and talks in babble.
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SunAndSpring posted:The alt-right really has this weird thing about them where they swear up and down that conservative people make "true art" and stinky liberals make doo doo art that is for degenerate pedophiles, and yet every time someone aligned with the alt-right makes something, it's the most embarrassing poo poo, like making YouTube rap songs in which Microsoft Sam raps about killing black people over a picture of the Moon Man from the Mac Tonight commercials shooting black people, the entirety of the book "The Gorilla Mindset", this gem of a video in which stolen art from Shadow of the Colossus and Attack on Titan tries to and fails to defeat a villainous Karl Marx, and other various turds. gently caress, I talked with one of those twerps and he swore up and down that video game concept art is the true heir to the Renaissance and that all modern art is on par with that one video where a lady smears Spaghetti-O's on her vagina and talks in babble. Same thing has been happening in SF&F. Bunch of alt-right whackos have been trying to take over the Hugo Awards via targeted voting and it just turned into poo poo.
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The alt-right is bizarre in that they try to play themselves up as ambitious youngsters who are the true progressives but want to take America back to the 19th century. I find it absolutely confusing that they're so gung-ho for "economic freedom" when what they're advocating was utterly disastrous when it actually existed. Meanwhile they screech about freedom of speech being sacred but tell black protesters to shut the gently caress up and stop inconveniencing everybody with their "doing things visible things while black" crimes. Alt-right makes them sound like they're some kind of alternative to American right wing politics but really they're the same thing wrapped in a different package. Instead of wrapping it in religion they wrap it in some vague definition of freedom.
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Sep 26, 2016 02:01
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OwlFancier posted:They've got a long way to go before they match the death toll of our establishment right. If Trump is elected I bet their cannidates will be seen marching to power across Europe and they'll make a death toll in Western Europe unequeled in 70 years. I suspect my country after it exterminates our own Alt right and with a dictator will this time have to eliminate the European nation state this time. ToxicSlurpee posted:The alt-right is bizarre in that they try to play themselves up as ambitious youngsters who are the true progressives but want to take America back to the 19th century. I find it absolutely confusing that they're so gung-ho for "economic freedom" when what they're advocating was utterly disastrous when it actually existed. Meanwhile they screech about freedom of speech being sacred but tell black protesters to shut the gently caress up and stop inconveniencing everybody with their "doing things visible things while black" crimes.
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Sep 26, 2016 02:41
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Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are?
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Sep 26, 2016 03:30
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Blue Star posted:Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are? Less powerful; they're extremely white overall and "white person" is just going to be another minority in a nation of minorities before long.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:35
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Blue Star posted:Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are? If Trump is elected more powerful, at least until a coup happens and then they are exterminated.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:56
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After Trump loses the election, they'll scatter like cockroaches when the lights are turned on. They'll return to their echo-chamber websites and share conspiracy theories about how the election was fixed.
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Sep 26, 2016 04:54
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Blue Star posted:Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are? More in that, the "alt-right" just becomes "the right" in a few decades. They are the future of the Republican party. In terms of actual power, that depends on how the next couple Presidential elections go.
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Sep 26, 2016 05:04
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Less powerful; they're extremely white overall and "white person" is just going to be another minority in a nation of minorities before long. Good riddance to the scum that is the white race.
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Sep 26, 2016 05:15
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on the left posted:Yes, that's exactly the kind of line you pull out when you want to use social justice activism as an excuse for abusive behavior. Good job bringing up social justice as some sort of bogey man. Why don't you tell me about cultural Marxism while you're at it?
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Sep 26, 2016 05:18
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Crowsbeak posted:Because unlike you I know some people who have raised children as single parents and they say they would prefer to have someone to help them raise their children. Also there are those studies suggesting children brought up in families that are stable do better. The brief you linked says the findings are only for low-conflict marriages, and goes on to say that children of parents in unhappy marriages do better when their parents divorce. Telling people they should sacrifice their happiness and remain in unhappy marriages out of obligation to their children is not the correct conclusion to draw from what you've linked here.
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Sep 26, 2016 11:47
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Furthermore it also goes to show that families where one parent dies are better off than if they go through a divorce. It's almost as if animosity between parents is a huge contributing factor to worse outcomes for kids. Like, maybe a loveless marriage.
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Sep 26, 2016 11:49
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Crowsbeak posted:If Trump is elected I bet their cannidates will be seen marching to power across Europe and they'll make a death toll in Western Europe unequeled in 70 years. I suspect my country after it exterminates our own Alt right and with a dictator will this time have to eliminate the European nation state this time. Why stop there? I mean as long as you're generating so much breathless pearl clutching, just say that the entire earth will vanish in a singularity and the universe will cease to exist once Trump is elected? Are you by chance a member of the American media?
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Sep 26, 2016 12:49
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Less powerful; they're extremely white overall and "white person" is just going to be another minority in a nation of minorities before long. You know, a big chunk of what you would call "latinos" consider themselves white, and are by number the fastest growing part of the population. Do you imagine that their long term self interest lines up with other minority groups? There's nothing as D&D as nearly translucent white young men telling "minorities" what they should think and how they should vote.
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Sep 26, 2016 12:53
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Blue Star posted:Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are? More powerful, absolutely, without a doubt. Right now, they don't really have any power beyond online harassment, and it's only in the past decade or so that they've really come out into the public eye and demonstrated for all to see that literal neo-Nazis are not only viable political candidates but actually pretty popular. The recent success of extreme-right groups and ideologies all over Europe isn't a good sign, and it's going to drive more of the same. In the US, the alt-right is probably going to devour and replace the religious right.
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Sep 26, 2016 13:01
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Less powerful; they're extremely white overall and "white person" is just going to be another minority in a nation of minorities before long. The model to look at is Latin America, where a white minority holds a tight reign on power and the mestizo underclass votes for a never-ending string of populist candidates. The white elite class mostly lets this go by, while simultaneously shielding their wealth from these governments and having a condo in Miami for if they need to let things cool down for a bit.
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Sep 26, 2016 13:27
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Same thing has been happening in SF&F. Bunch of alt-right whackos have been trying to take over the Hugo Awards via targeted voting and it just turned into poo poo. Heavy emphasis on tried to. It also gave us the wonders of Hugo Award Nominated Author Chuck Tingle. By his pounding we are blessed, and through our butts we praise him.
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Sep 26, 2016 14:43
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Ddraig posted:Furthermore it also goes to show that families where one parent dies are better off than if they go through a divorce.
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gobbagool posted:You know, a big chunk of what you would call "latinos" consider themselves white, and are by number the fastest growing part of the population. Do you imagine that their long term self interest lines up with other minority groups? There's nothing as D&D as nearly translucent white young men telling "minorities" what they should think and how they should vote. I dunno, boss, the republican party is all lined up behind a man who said noone of mexican descent should be allowed to arbitrate legal proceedings he's involved with on grounds of their race, so you tell me.
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Sep 26, 2016 15:31
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Blue Star posted:Do you all think that the alt-right might become more powerful and influential over the years, or will they become less powerful than they already are? In the near-term, it will probably grow though. The "alt-right" label is kind of overbroad, but most of what put it in the spotlight came from the talk radio mentality catching up with the social media era, which is ongoing and irreversible, and from finding a message that resonates with a younger audience (that progressives are hypersensitive killjoys) and using to bridge the gap to far-right lunacy, which is more tenuous.
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The idea that a 'real' family is a mommy, a daddy, a mortgage, and 3+ kids is part of the problem. People see life as a checklist and everyone thinks they are entitled to reproduction. The social darwinist logic Americans are so attached to demands an eventual population cull.
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Sep 26, 2016 15:56
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A Buttery Pastry posted:So what you're saying is; if you truly love your children, you should kill your spouse instead of file for divorce? If they never find out it would probably be a net improvement, I guess. Ideally you wouldn't need to kill anyone, though.
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Ddraig posted:If they never find out it would probably be a net improvement, I guess.
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Ze Pollack posted:I dunno, boss, the republican party is all lined up behind a man who said noone of mexican descent should be allowed to arbitrate legal proceedings he's involved with on grounds of their race, so you tell me. So by your logic, nobody of Latino descent will vote for Trump, right? This should be an easy election for Hillary! She ought to win 49 states!
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gobbagool posted:So by your logic, nobody of Latino descent will vote for Trump, right? This should be an easy election for Hillary! She ought to win 49 states! As long as the Republican Party continues to run on a platform of "Mexicans out" Latinos will continue to vote against them in overwhelming numbers, Pauline Kael rereg. If you believe in the long term the Republican Party will drop that as one of their core policy planks, then my only question to you is- in favor of what? As Trump's brutal dismembering of the primary field demonstrated, when you give their voter base a choice between free market economics and "no, really, gently caress the mexicans," they do not pick option A.
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gobbagool posted:Why stop there? I mean as long as you're generating so much breathless pearl clutching, just say that the entire earth will vanish in a singularity and the universe will cease to exist once Trump is elected? Are you by chance a member of the American media? I recognize that there are people who need to fear their natures. McDowell posted:The idea that a 'real' family is a mommy, a daddy, a mortgage, and 3+ kids is part of the problem. People see life as a checklist and everyone thinks they are entitled to reproduction. The social darwinist logic Americans are so attached to demands an eventual population cull. Well the data shows having two of either gender is beneficial. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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gobbagool posted:So by your logic, nobody of Latino descent will vote for Trump, right? This should be an easy election for Hillary! She ought to win 49 states! One of the fundamental problems with the demographics is destiny predictions is that something like 80%+ of foreign-born citizens live in NY or California (and of those, 80% live in a few cities). Their votes don't really matter because of the electoral college.
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Crowsbeak posted:Well the data shows having two of either gender is beneficial. There are four things listed there, dude. "Either" doesn't apply.
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Who What Now posted:There are four things listed there, dude. "Either" doesn't apply. So wait your saying kids of gay parents shouldn't be allowed?
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Sep 26, 2016 18:11
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Stop projecting your bigotry onto others.
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Epitome of Macho posted:Stop projecting your bigotry onto others. Hey the study says its better to have two parents. Be they gay or straight. Sorry if the data doesn't fit your hedonistic vision.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:25
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Crowsbeak posted:Hey the study says its better to have two parents. Be they gay or straight. Sorry if the data doesn't fit your hedonistic vision. You are vastly overestimating your understanding of the data.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:32
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Who What Now posted:You are vastly overestimating your understanding of the data. 
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Literally everyone (including your own study) disagrees with you, but sure, you're the only one that's right and it's everyone else that's wrong.
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on the left posted:One of the fundamental problems with the demographics is destiny predictions is that something like 80%+ of foreign-born citizens live in NY or California (and of those, 80% live in a few cities). Their votes don't really matter because of the electoral college. That seems like a really tortured statistic, "foreign-born citizens" is a tiny minority of minority voters.
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Who What Now posted:Literally everyone (including your own study) disagrees with you, but sure, you're the only one that's right and it's everyone else that's wrong. Show me where the study says those in single families do better then those with two parents.
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Ze Pollack posted:As long as the Republican Party continues to run on a platform of "Mexicans out" Latinos will continue to vote against them in overwhelming numbers, Pauline Kael rereg. So what percentage of Latinos will vote for Trump then, like, 5%? 7? You've already shown a fantastic ability to willfully misunderstand what is going on with the electorate, so I want to have something else to laugh at you about edit: also really enjoying you, a sickly white male, probably cishet, certainly a shitlord, telling Latinos what to pick. Surely they must welcome your wise hand and it's firm control? gobbagool fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Show me where the study says those in single families do better then those with two parents. How about you do me one better and show where in the study it says that the problems absolutely can't be attributed to things like poverty or social status.
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gobbagool posted:So what percentage of Latinos will vote for Trump then, like, 5%? 7? You've already shown a fantastic ability to willfully misunderstand what is going on with the electorate, so I want to have something else to laugh at you about That you confuse statements of verifiable reality with commands explains a great deal of your worldview, not gonna lie. I am pointing out, to you, that until such time as the Republican Party does not make "we hate Mexicans" one of its foundational planks, they will continue to consistently and overwhelmingly lose the Latino vote. Obama won them 71%-27% in 2012. The Republican Party's Latino outreach since that point has consisted of shutting down the government, demanding an end to birthright citizenship, and the political career of one Donald Trump. Which of these three, in your opinion, is likely to have improved those figures?
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