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To answer your question outright, it's the insanity plea. Clubs are a functional community asset that interact with and are important to different levels of society, from 'traditionally' working class fans to owners to players to suppliers and their immediate local economy. But clubs are not so protected that they can override or lean on local councils to facilitate the kind of arm-twisting that you see in American sports. In some areas like Germany, partial fan ownership is legislated as well. In terms of the culture, and from having this conversation in TRP, the best way for an American to translate into something relevant would be to relate it back to American College Football. The Buckeyes would never be in a position to tell their fans or local government that they were moving to say, Los Angeles, and in the same way, moving AFC Bournemouth to Newquay is equally as ludicrous. The clubs are so tied to community that moving outside of a traditional city line into a satellite town/suburb can become a major issue. Everton FC play in Liverpool, and their stadium has been due for replacement for about 30 years given it's location and age. One of the suitable sites was in Knowsley, 4 miles from the old stadium, and effectively - but not officially - in Liverpool. The plans to build the new stadium there led to fan groups being formed like 'Keep Everton in Our City' - http://www.keioc.net , and similar objections get raised whenever a team looks to stray too far from 'home'. Sometimes the financial pressures and owners can force through a move - Upton Park is 2.5 miles away from West Ham's new stadium and that generated a lot of controversy. Clubs are also less protected from being poo poo than they are in American sports. If a team in the Premier League attempted to minimally invest to keep down costs and to gain an advantage next season, they go down like Burnley, or Villa. Because teams can get promoted, setting up a local side and having them climb up through the divisions is a possibility - like AFC Wimbledon - who when MK Dons were created, were the protest team created by fans to keep their club in their local community. You also get areas where there's an intersection between nationality, identity, religion and geography in a wonderful clusterfuck of different drivers of behaviour, and trying to get Celtic to move to Dublin is a wonderful but impossible pipe dream. A lot has been written about that AFC Wimbledon / MK Dons move, it might be something to investigate further to understand some of what I'm badly explaining.
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Also if your looking at something linking the two, researching the new Spurs ground in London wouldn't be a bad idea given their bidding for an NFL London franchise, are self funding and had to do a lot of work privately to allow for their increased capacity with their local borough council.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You just need a transition period where you rename the team along American lines, and slowly emphasize the non-city part of the name. Like this: This has been attempted with Hull City AFC(Hull Tigers) and it got rejected
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Antti posted:"Socialism" in American sports is a bit reductive, I assume they meant stuff like the draft where teams get to pick instead of having to compete, and players having strong collective bargaining. In Europe collective bargaining is meant for people earning pennies, not millions. The union for football players in England is older than them NFL, just because a lot of the collective bargaining it was involved in happened in he 50's - free movement and the removal of salary caps, injury pay and registration issues etc. doesn't mean it's not around and working today. I think the Belgian equivalent were also funding Jean-Marc Bosman through the infamous Bosman ruling on free movement throughout European football as well.
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