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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Skin Bleaching and you; a journey towards pearlescent
 
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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

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TomViolence posted:

Every society has its problems, but proposing a transplant of western cultural norms as a panacea is misguided at best. Underlying reasons for social ills like FGM and persecution of sexual minorities are best combated by a contextual approach adapted to the circumstances of the society where they're taking place and implemented by people directly invested in their outcomes. Imposing western values from above invites a culture-shocked backlash that would likely undo whatever meager good such initiatives could hope to deliver and give ammunition to a culture's homegrown reactionaries, as happened with the Taliban in Afghanistan or Boko Haram in Nigeria. If reform and modernisation is seen as the intrusive machinations of an imperial aggressor or coloniser it can't take hold and is doomed to failure.
What does the mean for the imposition of "western cultural norms" on western populations? We have our own reactionaries reacting to those too, in similar ways.

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A Buttery Pastry
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TomViolence posted:

This is why I emphasize the desirability of a contextual strategy. In a western context, the imposition and reinforcement of western values makes sense. Where it does not make sense is in situations where the backdrop of western thought and western values is not already part of the social fabric.
That western thought and values exist as part of the social fabric does not change the fact that we're seeing a reactionary movement against western values though? Is your point that western values are so strongly a part of the social fabric (in the West) that their imposition on reactionaries is not going to create a cultural backlash big enough for us to consider not imposing them, whereas the reaction in Afghanistan is going to be of a scale that makes any attempt at imposition doomed to fail? Because otherwise the distinction is basically down to where you draw your borders.

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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Do any of you have a flicker of awareness at how gross it is to colonize a thread about race issues for this bullshit? Have your slapfight in the libertarian thread or the Freep thread or make an actual new thread. You completely killed one of the very few conversations that's ever happened in D&D that isn't about white people and you're assholes for it.
You seem pretty opposed to thread bleaching.

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