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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Schweinhund posted:

this is the mantra all the star wars nerds who want to be hipsters keep saying, but you look at the trailer and it's 90% the same poo poo that was in the OT. And it's a prequel to episode IV and basically has the same plot as episode IV so I don't understand why people act like it's so original.

If it's just not full of really lovely lazy holes and feels starwarsy that's about A+ in my books for this sort of movie.

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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ZombyDog posted:

You forget that Colonial Marines is Canon.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5ypOJVS34

Why did someone put a gif on youtube this is insane.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I like and agree with a lot of RLM's various movie opinions but I think they're a bit weird about "racial pandering" or what ever when ever a non-white person is ever in any of the nerd poo poo they like.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I do really enjoy how movies are all now crafted around getting into China, which means no humour chinese people might not get, no topics chinese censors might not like, and always portray China as good and a partner in solving global problems.

They're now filming whole alternate scenes for the chinese release. I guess that's better than just making 1 lovely version of the movie.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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doctorfrog posted:

any of these movies any drat good?

#141 was the first good movie I saw scrolling down the list. Certainly nothing in the top 20.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Star wars universe is pretty hosed up with it's racial caste system, hereditary rulers of a warrior cult having judge dredd like powers over the galaxy, and fully sentient robots treated as property.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I thought I liked Star Wars until I realized I actually only liked the PC game "Tie Fighter" which some how presents a more tonally consistent and polished universe than the movies do.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Paladinus posted:

Star Wars! I love Star Wars!

Counterpoint: Star Wars

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I'm always terrified one of these guys is going to finally slip up and say something "deeply problematic" and then double down on it and get all defensive when people roll their eyes, and then the whole thing will be soured.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I liked it when Jedi were just really wise and had a bit of magic to help them but mostly just got stuff done like a normal person. Obiwan was in the first movie was perfect. Vader was just an imposing guy that could sometimes force-choke people and being able to do that was a crazy power. At the height of Luke's powers he was good with a light saber but still had to be quite careful in fights, there still felt like there were stakes, that a random dude with a blaster could still get the better of him and he still needed to be quite wary about being outnumbered or cornered. Jedi powers were a nice extra to have on top of all your training.

Then they just became unstoppable anime characters that could casually take on an army solo and now they don't even need any training, they're just x-men. Movies just have to keep ramping everything up, I wish they'd realize that in so many cases less is more and when your main character feels like an invincible super hero it makes every fight scene boring as gently caress. I'll take ben and vader's chill light saber duel over people flipping and jumping like a cheesy chinese kung fu movie any day. This is also why The Hobbit was total poo poo.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Paladinus posted:

Luke could lift a spaceship with force.

Very poorly and it was a huge deal, and even yoda had to sit and focus and lift it slowly. Not something you'd just do on the fly in the middle of fighting.
Vader ripping poo poo off the wall and pummeling luke during their fight was cool too. But it all still felt a little more grounded. I just hate super hero movies and over the top action, it ends up cheapening everything, you just grow numb to it and none of it feels impressive.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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achillesforever6 posted:

KOTR2 is great if buggy (Obsidiangame.txt) because Chris Avellone hated the concept of Star Wars

The best starwars stuff was done by people who didn't like starwars. Like the xwing and Tie fighter series were done by some people who wanted to do their own space fligth sim but got stuck with the star wars license.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Paladinus posted:

The problem was that his ship was stuck in a swamp.

This is why you fail.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Yeah I also much prefer the idea that even the best Jedi's force powers are still subtle enough that a lot of people could think they were myths or exaggerated. Jedi were rare and small in number so hard to say what was true or not, it made sense.
But then we find out Jedi's led armies and were one-man-armies them selves just dragon ball Zing whole enemy forces.

The Jedi old ben presented in Episode III were mysterious, the Jedi presented in the prequels are anime characters or a league of super heroes.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Oh right anyone can attach a repulsor unit to a speeder stuck in some mud and film them selves using "the force" to lift it out.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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temple posted:

Its called being creative and writing a new story.

But the previous story made lots of money, a new story adds an unknown variable into what should be a completely safe marketing equation. Also if you don't check-box every nerd expectation they will get mad and write hateful things, mostly about women.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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a bone to pick posted:

Josh: Obscured by pubes

Jack: long 'n skinny

Jay: Your standard affair

Rich: Adorably child-like

Mike: Chronic Whiskey dick

This matches my head-canon.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I watched the last episode of community the other night and twice characters stopped and basically looked at the camera and went on about how Marvel movies are all formuliac trash garbage for teens.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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a bone to pick posted:

I remember in earlier HitB episodes Jay would mention how great Community is, and then like 2 years later he's talking about how loving lovely it turned out.

After watching them all in a binge over the last couple months, the first seasons are great, then they fired harmon and it got really bad but eventually the harmonless team sort of found its legs and it got "ok". Then Harmon came back and it was great, but then the show started losing way too many key cast members and, like so many harmon things, it became increasingly self-referential and self-deprecating or "up its own rear end" as the kids say. The last season, produced as a "Yahoo Original" wasn't awful but had almost totally given up being a TV show and was just going along up its butt goodbye to the fans coasting along on fumes and the few original cast members it still had.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Also Star Burns and Frankie Dart were both about the same age, late 40's-50ish. Britta and Annie were the exact same age too. Madness.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I liked seeing Ryan Ridley and some other channel 101 / Rick and morty people in the last seasons, and Justin Roiland doing a voice, and they had all given up and were just phoning it in to get it over with. But even then, they were still able to mock the quality of Marvel movies from a superior position.

So it's weird hearing Dan go on about how comic book movies are all being made by nerds who really care about quality rather than marketing suits because the "nerds won". No, marketing won and your lovely niche nerd culture has become a cynical paint by numbers corporate money machine that gives no fucks about the source material (which was all trash to begin with anyways).

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Are thinking assembly line produced super-hero movies being bland made-for-children cash cows that aren't good or interesting a hot take? My friends kids are interested in them, and some of my more nerdy friends who were big into comics as children and never really outgrew those franchises like them. But even then it's like a guilty pleasure and they fully admit they're absolute garbage you just "shut your brain off" to enjoy seeing costumed mans punch each other while the best effects money can buy overload every scene to the point of numbness.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Why do they call him Susan that's not his name.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Mulaney Power Move posted:

ungh yeah i just want to pound jay while mike pounds me and rich watches shrieks with high pitched laughter.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Woah I live a couple blocks away from the mansion in the Boy doll movie. I guess they filmed it there?? That's my true story.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Why is the letter called a double-you and not a double-vee then?!
Wait, on old churches they'd write u as v. Nothing makes sense.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Max Landis should write and direct the next Stalker

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I don't like stuff with rape or torture in it :(

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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There's an episode of community where the gang gets together to watch bad movies and crack jokes. Pierce being an insecure tryhard gets really upset no one likes his jokes and is enraged they come so natural to everyone else. He then pre-watches the movie and hires writers to write him good jokes. On the night of the movie they decide to watch something else and he flips out. Josh reminds me Chevy Chase really really trying to hard to "win" at movie quips.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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BOTW is the one thing I don't bother watching.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Is Mike always so drunk and checked out?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I tried to watch some godzilla movies that godzilla people say are good. All of them were sort of boring monster bits stretched out between the worst acting and human plot-b's. Although really the lovely human stuff is the A-plot and the monster fights are the B plot.

Also every godzilla either has a message of "humans are bad and destroying the earth and make wars, atoms are specially bad and we deserve what we get for the hubris of atoms" or "Japan is the most specialist islands in the world and godzilla is bound to it via our pure japanese blood, godzilla is angry because americans, or non-traditional japanese values, but once again japan is a victim of outside forces despite our unique blood and history. PS Japan did nothing wrong in 'The War of American Atomic Aggression'"

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I'd watch a sitcom where the entire laugh track is made up of Rich Evans samples.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Diego Luna is hot.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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I'm hoping for a gritty war/heist commando mission poo poo with characters that aren't horrible but they don't need to be interesting, and a serviceable plot that while not incredibly creative doesn't have gaping infuriating plot holes or terribly contradict established "lore". All acting as a framework for cool star wars poo poo going on with spaceships and dog-shaped tanks and such. I assume that's what I'm getting?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

FuturePastNow posted:

TIE Fighter was the best Star Wars game and people always pick the dark side when they have a choice, so odds are we'll get movies from the Empire point of view once they run out of "Young _____" stories to make.

A movie based on TIE fighter would be so good and it would actually probably be super popular for that reason. Follow the career of an Imperial pilot who joined up because the empire stopped a horrible civil war on his planet. He does basic navy stuff, fights actual bad guy criminals and smugglers and corrupt imperial traitors. Hell follow the plot of the game, it's probably better written than what ever disney would come up with.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

temple posted:

The rogue one review is entirely too cynical.

Do they rant about the drat PC agenda to ram non-whites down our throats to virtue signal or what ever?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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My fav thing about starwars "EU" and poo poo is that every background character, every cup, every wire dangling from every possible scene or deleted scene from the movies all have huge epic backstories that not only ridiculously inflate their importance but also make them the relative or some how linked to everyone else in some insane way.

"Actually the cup seen on a table in a deleted scene on Bespin in Empire Strikes Back was originally a cup owned by an ancient master Jedi 500 years ago and was sold upon his death. He had willed the cup to his grand son, but on the condition that he not become a sith lord. his Grandson did become a sith lord so the cup became property of the state with no other legal inheritors. This grandson was also a distant relative of grand moff tarkin by the way. The cup's whereabouts for the last few centuries were unknown, but the local Bespin cafe owner found it when his brother, a mercenary (a long time competitor and frenemy of boba fett) found it when searching an abandoned ship that used to belong to luke's adoptive parent's great uncle. The cup was later stolen by an occupying imperial official who then drank himself to death. Due to the death of this imperial officer (an unknown distant relative's best friend of Lando's great great grandparent's cleaning lady) rebel agents were able to succeed in their plan to liberate Bespin after the destruction of the 2nd death star. It is rumoured that the cups are part of a set of 4, and who ever unites the cups may gain the power to create the dumbest 'fan service' lore imaginable in any fictional universe"

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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Yeah that's what I want to see more of. Just normal little people's cool stories. I'm loving sick of superheroes with grand destinies linked through fate.

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

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WampaLord posted:

I guess I have a different definition of "gritty" than most people because Rogue One wasn't gritty at all.

It's based on quips per minute. If the QPM is too low the movie is dark and serious and gritty. You can have hyper-violence and hundreds of people being killed, genocide, what ever, just so long as the main characters don't seem too upset and have an amazing quotable one-liner or retort it's a "fun movie"

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