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The old thread's OP is a mess, time for a new thread! WHAT IS IT? The second season of Iron-Blooded Orphans (IBO), the first season of which aired in Autumn 2015.  Three centuries after the catastrophic Calamity War, Earth is ruled by four superpowers which ruthlessly exploit their offworld colonies, leaving the colonists to wallow in poverty and worse. Set above them all to enforce the peace is Gjallarhorn, a massive army accountable to no one but themselves, controlled by seven families - the Seven Stars - who style themselves after the nobility of the Calamity War era. Interested only in power and prestige for their own sake, the Seven Stars maintained an iron grip on the inner sphere, helping suppress any dissent against the economic blocks, until... In the first season, Kudelia Aina Bernstein, a young, sheltered nobleman and figurehead of the Martian independence movement, hires child soldier PMC Tekkadan to escort her to Earth, to begin negotiating independence for the Martian region of Chryse from Arbrau. Backed - and manipulated - by various factions (Gordon Nobliss, an Earth-based billionaire who wants the rights to exploit Mars' natural resources for himself; Teiwaz, a less-than-legal Jovian shipping syndicate that want Gjallarhorn's nose out of their business; Togonosuke Makanai, the disgraced former prime minister of Arbrau; and McGillis Fareed, the son of Gjallarhorn's commander-in-chief, who wants to purge his organisation of corruption and restore it to its former glory), hounded by Gjallarhorn the entire way, Tekkadan eventually make it to Earth, where they fight Gjallarhorn forces in a climactic battle in the streets of Edmonton to allow Makanai to be re-elected and grant Chryse the right to self-determination and self-governance. It has now been several years since the end of s01, and things have changed: https://files.catbox.moe/1mfz2k.webm Despite all this, Gjallarhorn is definitely still around, now with McGillis at its head, and new enemies are coming out of the woodworks - so welcome back for another season of double-crossing, great mecha design, surprisingly good on-screen English text, fights that make you wince, and simmering sexual tension between Mikazuki and Orga. THERE'S A MILLION OTHER GUNDAM SHOWS! WHERE DOES THIS FIT IN THE CONTINUITY? DO I NEED TO HAVE WATCHED ALL EIGHT THOUSAND EPISODES OF MOBILE WING G GUNDAM: AFTER ENDLESS TURN-00? Gundam shows exist in a bunch of completely unrelated timelines and are largely self-contained. Outside of OVAs and direct sequels, it's rare for Gundam shows to be related to each other at all. The exception to this is the "main" Universal Century timeline where the shows are designed to build on each other. IBO is a brand new timeline, so you don't need to have seen any other Gundam shows to watch and enjoy this. If you like the idea of well-written and pretty smart military sci-fi with giant robots in it, or the idea of a show that knows when to go for quiet character-building moments and doesn't have non-stop gratuitous battles, I definitely recommend watching IBO. However, this is a direct sequel to the first season of Iron-Blooded Orphans - for reasons that are fairly obvious, you should definitely watch that before watching this second season. The first season can still be watched on Daisuki and Crunchyroll (see below for a link). WHERE CAN I WATCH IT? The show is simulcast on Daisuki.net, and airs one week behind on Crunchyroll. If you live in a region where neither of those two are available, HorribleSubs are fansubbing it. If you're in Asia or Oceania, you can also watch it for free straight on the Gundam Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx9DTLCR2uW7m-YKGslMJUcC WHO'S WORKING ON IT? Same key staff as the first season: Mari Okada (anohana, Aquarion Evol, WIXOSS, Toradora!) and Tatsuyuki Nagai (also anohana) are back as writer and director, respectively, and Masaru Yokoyama (BBK/BRNK, Rolling Girls) is still composing. The mecha design is still primarily by Ippei Gyobu (Reconguista in G, Kanaberi (  )). As usual with Gundam, the animation is being handled internally by Sunrise. THE RULES We had some issues with the last thread, so we're keeping Bad Seafood's rules for this one: 1. No discussing other Gundam shows. This is a thread about IBO, not Gundam as a franchise. Couching everything you have to say about IBO in terms of 0079 metaphors makes for posts that are boring, not particularly insightful, and impenetrable to people who might not have seen 0079 (or any other Gundam show you're making references to). It's fine to say you think IBO does something really well and so does another Gundam show; avoid discussions about who is the show's Char. If you want to make an in-depth comparison between IBO and another Gundam show, take it to the Gundam megathread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3746278 2. No discussing plamo or toys. Posting pictures of Gunpla models to discuss the setting or its technology is fine, but don't use this thread to talk about the merchandise. If you want to discuss IBO model kits or figures, take it to the Gunpla thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678195 3. Don't be a dick to people about spoilers. Since there's probably going to be people watching this on CR and thus stuck a week behind the Daisuki people, feel free to discuss plot beats in the thread, but consider spoiler tagging major twists until the next episode is out. Don't freak out if someone asks you to put spoiler tags on something, and don't be a dick to people using spoiler tags. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Oct 9, 2016 |
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:The first season was really cool, and I'm very hopeful the second will be too!  I felt that the very last episode of the first season abruptly and weirdly pulls its punches in its final quarter, but other than that, I think s01 was fantastic and I really hope s02 can be as good. Any doubts I had about the show continuing to be pretty savage about child soldiers disappeared the moment Atra said "on the other hand," though, and I'm glad.
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Oct 2, 2016 21:19
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chiasaur11 posted:It's interesting to see just how venerated Tekkadan is getting. All Cookie and Cracker's schoolmates viewed "Dying for Mars in battle!" as The Coolest Thing Ever, while they... don't. Yeah, I'm interested in seeing where it's going with this, considering the entire worker revolt arc in s01.
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Oct 2, 2016 22:43
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W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, I liked how when his subordinate asked if the guy on Mars McGillis was talking about was an old friend, McGillis clenched his hands, then pointedly stated that he doesn't have any friends. I'm expecting it to be Space Hitler.
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Oct 3, 2016 16:08
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A distinct absence of spiky goddamn backpacks.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:15
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That's Kudelia's PA, she seems cool.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:59
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e02 is up. e; some thoughts: The new OP is much better than either of the previous two, but the new ED still isn't as good as Orphans no Namida. I'm glad the show continues the trend of Tekkadan being used as pawns by basically everyone, and that McGillis isn't an antagonist from the start. I'm kind of hoping he doesn't end up being one overtly even by the end of the show. Also, I've missed Mika's murder eyes. 
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Oct 9, 2016 12:28
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The McMurdo scene did remind me how much it sucks that Naze has gotten zero growth over the entire show so far. They really should have had Ein's victims die at the end of s01 and had Naze resent Orga for it, opening a rift between the two of them that slowly grew over the years, resulting in Orga getting closer to Barriston and making the Turbines antagonistic to Tekkadan. Instead, Naze is still just the generically supportive cool big brother figure he's been from the start. It's a boring waste of his character. 
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Oct 9, 2016 13:47
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resurgam40 posted:Yep, that masked man is totally Gali-Gali. How nice of Isaac Clarke to lend him a mask. I really don't think that's the case, personally. There's no evidence for it.
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Oct 9, 2016 13:50
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Cao Ni Ma posted:it was pretty heavy handed that the person at least knows who McGillis really is. And the only two people that can claim that are Gali-Gali and the Chocolate Man himself. McGillis might know people other than the people who were introduced in season 1, because the list of characters he was seen onscreen with in s01 isn't an exhaustive list of all the people McGillis ever interacted with throughout his entire fictional life.
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Oct 9, 2016 15:40
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Droyer posted:That's true, but considering they're keeping the masked man's identity hidden from the audience, I doubt that will be the case. I'm not convinced it's Gaelio (and as I've mentioned before I think it would be lame if it was) but I think it's bound to be a character we've seen before. Yeah, my guess is Ein, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Oct 9, 2016 17:38
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Guy Goodbody posted:but you still absolutely knew that Mika was completely willing to kill that dude in an instant He does the murder eyes whenever he's inches away from killing someone because they're hurting someone he cares about.
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Oct 10, 2016 17:31
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That's a question better asked in the general Gundam thread. 
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Oct 14, 2016 18:09
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 Also, the man in the iron mask actually speaks in this episode, but I couldn't be bothered to go back and compare the sound of his voice to figure out whether he's Gaelio or Ein.
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Oct 16, 2016 15:22
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Oct 16, 2016 19:03
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She's also not an enemy of McGillis, so why would the Gjallarhorn he now leads go after her?
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Oct 18, 2016 08:52
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Glad to see we're still gunning down unarmed people without blinking. Good episode, but I hope that was the last fight we're getting for a few episodes.
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Oct 23, 2016 13:41
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Ethiser posted:Chad was one of the slave soldiers so I thought maybe his crazy last name was him creating his own. That made it sort of endearing to me. Yeah, I don't remember the name getting revealed before and I'm pretty sure him looking surprised when Makanai called him by his full name was him being surprised he'd just been given a last name, like a real person instead of human débris.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:55
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 my good assumption.
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Nov 1, 2016 21:48
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Phobophilia posted:i think part of mika's motor function have been forcibly ripped out of his spine and been uploaded to god knows where in barbatos He has brain/nerve damage and as a result part of his right side straight up doesn't work unless he's plugged in to Barbatos (or presumably any AV system), which gives him the extra processing power/alternate pathways he needs to use those things.
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Nov 3, 2016 02:23
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They're all going to survive just fine when Mika drops and clears up the misunderstanding, but not before someone working for McGillis murders Galan and probably gets shanked or at least wounded in return, prompting the Tekkadan rank and file to dislike McGillis even more and eventually causing some kind of crisis of confidence in Orga further down the line.
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Nov 6, 2016 19:18
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Darth Walrus posted:This isn't just about discrediting McGillis, but isolating him so they can go in more easily for the killing blow. I like that the show is continuing the whole "Tekkadan are irrelevant pawns" thing, too. Rustal and Galan don't care about Tekkadan in the least, they're just useful tools to employ against McGillis.
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Nov 7, 2016 15:25
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Mika and McGillis bonding over snacks.
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Nov 13, 2016 20:06
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 I'm glad McGillis continues to not be a villain, also.
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Nov 20, 2016 13:51
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Hunt11 posted:How is that even a spoiler? It was obvious that said characters would become a couple sooner or later. Because it's confirmed in the episode which literally just aired and which people streaming the show won't get until a week later.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:57
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McGillis betraying Tekkadan would be the single most boring choice they could make, so I'm going to continue assuming that McGillis genuinely means well for Tekkadan and Mars and will stay a morally ambiguous good guy until the end.
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Nov 21, 2016 10:12
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I'm pretty sure they know exactly how creepy it is.
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Nov 30, 2016 13:35
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everydayfalls posted:The ep really ties everything together and sets up the last half of the season. Why are prosthetics bad? Because robots nearly destroyed humanity. I really hope this isn't something that gets resolved in two episodes, and instead carries the show to through to the end of s02.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:15
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My favourite thing about Ippei Gyoubu is that his twitter is 80% him RTing other people's pics of plamo of his designs. 
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Dec 4, 2016 18:30
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The beam weapon twist was a nice touch.
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Dec 11, 2016 15:59
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Hunt11 posted:Of course Mikazuki would find it beautiful. Yes.
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Dec 11, 2016 16:49
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Tae posted:Beam weapons still aren't good which is an interesting thing, but basically solely used to cause destruction to non-combatants in a short amount of time. That's not why that happened.
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Dec 11, 2016 17:40
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Hunt11 posted:It messed up Ride's suit, but overall it did not do nearly as much damage as you would expect. Yeah, and that didn't happen because beam weapons are designed to kill civilians/do property damage, it happened because nanolaminate armour is 100% effective in blocking beams. The Hashmal was trying to shoot directly at its target, but Ride's suit split the beam instead, taking no damage but resulting in a wider area of effect against the beam's target. It's a nice touch, showing that technology progressed a lot over the course of the Calamity War and in the 300 years since. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 11, 2016 |
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Dec 11, 2016 18:01
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Oh Snapple! posted:I don't think he was unaware of it - he's done way too much research to not know about it. It turns out "reactivate an ancient, mass-murdering AI superweapon then kill it for political gains" was not something McGillis was willing to do, although now that it's awake through someone else's fault, may as well get the political gains in the process of killing it to stop it from murdering thousands.
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Dec 12, 2016 08:12
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The entire point of modern AV surgery is that it's literally just nanobot spinal jacks that get put in early and then grow with the person they got implanted in, rather than having the pilot be a brain in a jar. You can do a direct man/machine interface without the nanobot AV surgery, but the nanobot one only works on kids.
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Dec 15, 2016 12:38
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Caros posted:All I'm saying is that we know it is possible for AV to work with adults, so it isn't guaranteed that Gjallerhorn's founding members were all children. Gundams don't have AV systems. The entire AV discussion has nothing to do with the age of Gjallarhorn's founders.
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Dec 15, 2016 16:02
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah they did. The Gundams and the AV system were both created to fight Mobile Armors I'm pretty sure no Gundam in the show to date has had come with AV system. Barbatos had to have it installed from a salvaged mobile worker; Gusion took its AV from a Man Rodi; Kimaris, Vidar and the two spinoff manga Gundams don't have AV at all. The two were invented during the Calamity War which is why Gundams are broadly compatible with AV systems when installed, but there is zero evidence that the Gjallarhorn founders had AV.
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Dec 15, 2016 16:17
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Guy Goodbody posted:Lol at Yamagi being all professional while sitting in Shino's lap. And blushing a lot.
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Dec 18, 2016 21:57
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Maybe Calamity War era Earth was just one big cyberpunk setting and everyone had cyberjacks and every MS had AV. 
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Zebulon posted:I'm both confused and disappointed by the lack of a Rules of Nature edit of that fight on youtube. Best I was willing to do in 20 minutes before bed: https://files.catbox.moe/sybyf5.webm
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