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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I am excited to see what happens when Julieta and Mikazuki fight.

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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I like how concerned Yamagi was with Norba when he showed personal interest in the new Gundam frame.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I would be more worried about what would happen to Tekkaden if it wasn't for just how cocky Rustal's group seems to be about the result. If they want to win they have to take the group seriously. Hell, the mask guy basically said that his bet is on Tekkaden loving up the plan for Rustal.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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In most works the ruthless killer who does not even understand the word compromise would be the villain, not the main character.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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everydayfalls posted:

It's almost like child soldiers are a bad thing...

I suppose my point was that even in a show full of child soldiers, Mikazuki is even more ruthless then the rest.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Gridlocked posted:

Ep 33 spoiler:

Awww I think Lafter has fallen in love with Akihiro :3:

How is that even a spoiler? It was obvious that said characters would become a couple sooner or later.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Darth Walrus posted:

Well, the actual up-front manipulation isn't that hard, and you're always going to find some schlub who thinks they can survive what happens next. Hell, McGillis kind of got away with it once in the last arc of S1.

You mean the whole thing with Carta? That was more him using them as an easy way to dispose of Carta then anything else.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Well that is one way to raise the stakes.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I think we may have been wrong about Gaileo. I don't know why but during the episode I started to think that he may actually be working with McGilles to take apart Rustal's forces. I know that there are issues with this idea but it does explain how Gaileo actually survived his encounter with McGilles.

Also I am quite happy that the only thing with beams are the monster robots that almost wiped out humanity

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Guy Goodbody posted:

Isn't the original explanation of all the melee weapons and traditional firearms that all Mobile Suits have anti-beam weapon armor?

Going by earlier information it seems as though only Mobile Armour had the capabilities to use beam weapons.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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https://twitter.com/kyabosean/status/803357520127356928

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Of course Mikazuki would find it beautiful.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Lemon-Lime posted:

That's not why that happened.

It messed up Ride's suit, but overall it did not do nearly as much damage as you would expect.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Darth Walrus posted:

Should he have known that, though? Mobile Armours haven't been around for three hundred years, and even among Earth aristocrats, McGillis is portrayed as a specialist Calamity War scholar. Yeah, he rushed in without thinking, but a big part of that seems to be because the most clued-in character in the entire show is also the least trustworthy.

Knowing exactly how a Mobile Armour operates is not what he failed to show. He failed to understand one of the basic facts of a Mobile Armour, that its programming made it specifically target Mobile Suits before anything else. Hell, he should have caught on to the fact that McGillis and Tekkedan did not bring any mobile suits and that there could be a reason for that. Hell, he makes Carta seem smart for all of her idiocy her screw ups only effected her and her subordinates whilst Iok could potentially doom the entire of Mars to die.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I am really starting to like Hush. At first he comes in as this cocky rear end in a top hat, but reality quickly humbles him which encourages him to take a fresh look at everything. So unlike the rest of the cast which see Mika as this badass warrior and hero, he actually sees him as a person and is growing more and more horrified at just what Mika so willingly does on a constant basis.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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There hasn't been much talk about the dub, but overall I am a big fan of many of the choices they made in terms of voice direction.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I remember at the start of the season there was a theory that Iok would somehow be the key to making everything good again. Now it seems he might be more destructive then a god drat mobile armour due to how unbelievably stupid he is.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I am glad that Ride is still alive. Also it looks like the next episode will be the end of the mobile armour as the tension seems to be back around political dealings rather then AI monsters.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
An important part of this episode was Orga getting a good look at just how messed up his relationship with Mika is.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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All this talk and the recent episodes is making me want a spin off to the show that focuses on the Calamity War. Watching a bunch of Gundam fighting to the death with mecha dragons would be a lot of fun to watch.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Lord Koth posted:

Honestly we never really know how McGillis would fare against Mika 1v1, as Mika was never really able to engage him during that fight due to being tied up by Gaelio's Schwalbe Graze. The one who really presented a challenge to him repeatedly in the series was Gaelio. The first fight with Gaelio in the Schwalbe Graze was not too far from even, though Mika would have won, even before McGillis joined the fight. And both the real fights against Mika in Kimaris were solidly in Gaelio's favor until unexpected surprises came into play. In the first fight he had Mika dead to rights until it turned into two Gundam Frames vs. one, and the second one Mika was being overwhelmed again, but had brought equipment specifically designed to surprise and counter Gaelio. The second example could be argued due to it being deliberate strategy, but it's not like the countermeasure was even remotely thought up or designed by Mika so again it's basically outside interference.

Their third encounter obviously doesn't particularly count, though Gaelio did accomplish his objective, and who knows how that final encounter would have ended if Mcgillis hadn't intervened.

I am going to have to question your analysis on the fights.

First fight with the Schwalbe: Gaelio has the edge as he has experience with fighting with Mikazuki and thus came in with a better plan to deal with him then in the last fight.

Second fight with the Schwalbe: When Mikazuki and co do a bit of planning to counter Gaelio's Gundam, they manage to render him basically useless and without outside interference on Gaelio's behalf, Mikazuki would have already killed one future head of the seven stars rather then two.

Third fight with the Schwalbe: Gaelio fails as even though he stops Mika from killing Carta with a final blow, Carta still ends up dying.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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New episode is up on Daisuki.net

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I don't think I have ever seen a love triangle quite like this.

Edit: More general thoughts on the episode.

I love the red eye effect Barbatos had during the fight as it helped to emphasize just how fast it was going and how terrifying both it and Mikazuki really are. That whole bit at the end with Mikazuki and Orga have been one of the most unnerving things this show has done.

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Dec 25, 2016

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Were we watching different shows or something as IBO did an excellent job of highlighting just how terrifying mobile armors were. Three of the more skilled pilots went up against the drat thing and lasted all of ten seconds and the only reason why they didn't die was that they were skilled enough to hide away from the thing once Barbotos entered the game. Mikazuki and Barbatos managed to defeat it, but only by pushing the Gundam so hard that it claimed at the very least his right leg and even Barbatos was reduced to little more then a skeleton by the end of the fight and this is when the hoard of little bug units were barely contained by the rest of Tekkaden.

In terms of aftermath, the person who is most likely going to be the final villain of the show basically got a hard on from the fight and determined that the only way to achieve his goals was the use of overwhelming and brutal power. Even those who are not obvious villains were perturbed by what they saw for as McGilles's second said, he was disgusted watching Barbatos fight as it fought in such a way that showed no concern whatsoever of actually surviving.

This all leads to the true legacy of that battle. Mikazuki, who at the start of the show had a clear goal of eventually starting up farming and who had actually started to make progress on that front, has just given up on being human. He is almost grateful for being rendered little more then a sack of meat who can pilot a Gundam to butcher his friend's enemies as that means he doesn't have to think about anything other then being a tool of slaughter. While most of Tekkaden is playing this off as no big deal, it is visibly breaking Atra and Kudelia, the few people on Mika's side who are not caught up in all the military madness to the point that his childhood friend begs Kudelia to get knocked up with Mika's baby in the small hope that it might stop Mikazuki from continuing on literally destroying his body.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I still remember at the start of this season people thought that Iok would help lead Gjallarhorn in reforms. Now that we have seen his true character I am just praying he dies a death much worse then what Carta suffered. For no matter how big of an idiot Carta was, at least she seemed to understand something about responsibility and owning up for ones actions whilst Iok is quite happy to prove why Gjallarhorn as it operates now should not exist.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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AradoBalanga posted:

That is a "literally gently caress your everything" kind of mace right there. :stare:

At this point Mika has given up on even the pretense on subtlety when it comes to rampaging across the battlefield.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Having not watched much Gundam, is Iok the most incompetent at committing war crimes?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Even worse then this most recent gently caress up? When the guy uses illegal weapons on an organization that had no will to fight in the least managed to lose a decent number of mobile suits, an entire battleship and have the main bridge of the lead ship almost introduced to the vacuum of space?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Now comes the tough question. Just how much of Jasley will be left after Akihro and Tekkaden are through with him?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Beyond the classic kill them all and then gently caress the corpses stuff, we got another lovely reminder at just how messed up Mikizuki is. That whole scene when he asks Atra to have a baby just showed how little he seems to understand anything other then murdering people.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Adel posted:

Did anyone else catch the smell of bullshit when McGillis said he'd never betray Tekkadan? Bastard probably had his fingers crossed.

Honestly I am not so sure about that. I feel like McGillis would have no qualms about getting rid of them should Tekkaden start to oppose him, but I think McGillies generally likes the organization or at least Mikazuki. Almost every scene when the two are together the guy is staring at him and when Mika was at his most brutal the guy basically had a boner.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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On a lighter note I did like how the senior Tekkaden staff (I forget their names) did all they could to help deal with Akihiro not getting subtle hints. Of course it turned out to be for naught but still.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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MonsterEnvy posted:

I do dislike Jasley more then Iok.

Iok is just stupid. You can tell with how proud he was of that shitshow when he was talking to Rustal. Jasley is simply an rear end in a top hat.

I am sure making a mercenary group full of angry and quite likely psychotic child soldiers will go swimmingly for him. Especially with space guts being ready to rip a ship in two and a guy who only seems to understand mass slaughter being told to spare no one.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I think this show is proving that death flags mean nothing.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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ImpAtom posted:

I'm pretty sure that if Iok kills Cookie and Cracker people from this thread will literally will themselves into the anime to murder him.

I think the correct term is work on him.

Edit: I forget the name of the guy who does the episode drawings for the show, but the new one is up. As you can probably guess it is quite sad. (I found it on safebooru but unsure about posting the link due to some of the images on the site)

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jan 31, 2017

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Just tell him that wounds heal but emotional wounds never do and then you are all set. I am sure Mika would enjoy ripping off every limb that Iok's suit has and then using him as a soccer ball until Iok has a mental breakdown.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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That picture does raise a good point. I would love to see what would happen to a person without a mech to get hit by Mika's giant club or whatever it is called.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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Dulkor posted:

Don't we have a gif of that from last season? :v:

I had forgotten about that glorious moment.

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Feb 5, 2017

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

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I love how they have figured out how to make the Barbatos even more of a monster by adding in the tail from an angel.

Edit: Even though Jasley deserved to die, the way the show did it quite effectively shows just how cruel Tekkaden can be.

Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Feb 5, 2017

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Jul 24, 2013

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Mordja posted:

Well, now we know what the sub-arms are for. :stare:

We now know what they specifically do, but the moment they got put onto Barbatos it is always clear that it is to help Mika butcher more soldiers too stupid to run away from him.

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