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TheNakedFantastic
Sep 22, 2006

LITERAL WHITE SUPREMACIST

Lamb Chowder posted:

You'd think this rather obvious truth and the pattern of political progress would persuade a lot more people to relinquish strongly regressive policy opinions sooner and to come to grips with the futility of reintroducing them, but no; I've actually heard the argument that "All liberal policy positions are eventually conservative ones."

The most "progressive" states of the 20th century collapsed and the conservative ones remained dominant.

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TheNakedFantastic
Sep 22, 2006

LITERAL WHITE SUPREMACIST

Lamb Chowder posted:

Austria-Hungary, Germany, Germany 2.0, the British empire, the Italian empire, the Ottoman empire, the Japanese empire, the second French empire, South Africa, Falangist Spain, the Russian Empire, Yugoslavia?

Post Sudan and nearishly the end of the UK I think we can say the trend is away from the process of conglomeration to ethnic or cultural fragmentation. Maybe in the future states will further subdivide along claims to resources. poo poo, you're right it is tribal

Most of the successor governments or states to those collapses were conservative though and those that weren't collapsed again before the end of the century. In any case it's clear that the less radical and progressive countries produced the more stable system in the long term.

TheNakedFantastic fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Oct 7, 2016

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