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pathologization of people with different political opinions is really, really insufferable and is a great way to create a whole lot of people who hate your guts
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TheNakedFantastic posted:The most "progressive" states of the 20th century collapsed and the conservative ones remained dominant. This doesn't have much to do with the thread topic, but the term 'progressive' and its popularization, is really irritating IMO. Like, it's a term with no history, it refers specifically to a very narrowly defined strain of elite liberal thought in the US and UK in the 1910s or so, and nothing else. It's blatantly a way of severing connection to the greater left-wing tradition and its history and limiting it to a very specific subset which is acceptable to the current American political and economic establishment. Liberalism and leftism are terms that refer to well-established political traditions with long histories and a huge amount of internal variety, 'Progressivism' might as well have been invented by Hillary's campaign team specifically to sell the platform she's running on this cycle. loving millenials icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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gtrmp posted:The modern use of "progressive" as a synonym for "liberal" is really due to the centrist/conservative Democrats' reaction to the rapid expansion of the right-wing fringe media in the 90s. The Rush Limbaugh types uniformly used the word "liberal" with the same sort of invective normally only seen in slurs, and the influence of Limbaugh and the like was enough in the 90s that Democrats in not-so-blue states and districts started distancing themselves from the word "liberal" by subbing in "progressive" in its place when talking about their politics and policies. The end result is that "progressive", like "liberal", doesn't really mean much of anything in and of itself, other than indicating that the person or policy being labeled as such is implicitly in sync with the Democratic party line. It's a response to Reagan-era Republicans tarring the word liberal, but it's also, very conveniently, a way to sever historical connotation and much more easily shape the movement and ideology denoted by it. The fact that it didn't become a thing until well into Obama's presidency says a lot IMO, Clinton, Gore and Kerry weren't using the word progressive to describe themselves in the 90s, when Republican toxifying the word liberal had a much greater effect. And it's not like anyone under the age of 35 gives a poo poo about Rush Limbaugh and Reagan-era narratives on the word and concept of liberalism. It kind of is just an extremely clever way to sell Democratic establishment ideology to millennials icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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