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Jokes aside, I think you're right on one thing - I don't think case n stands for nuclear. I'm not sure we're dealing with a nuclear disaster at all. That n might have more to do with another n we've seen: neuroscience. We know about telepathy/BC (ha ha before crime) and we know the students are all BC users. We should now suspect that Yuuri is a powerful psychic too. And that there may be at least one more powerful psychic in the facility based on the migraine attacks. Then there is the dead girl. She and Yuuri are probably research subjects. And the Procyons? Those were supplied by LABO. There's no reason to trust them completely. They may be measuring something other than Sv units despite the display readings. Lastly, Alone Desire. Isn't that desire alone explanation terribly shoddy? Perhaps it's actually named for the desire to be alone. A drug that blocks BC or other external mental intrusions. The effects our survivors have experienced might be neurological and psychological in nature too. The only thing to give me pause on that account is wastage vomiting blood, but he has already sustained a significant amount of bodily trauma. AD being a psychic inhibitor would explain why it is effective so quickly, why Yuuri is violently against it, and why the students may be getting along fine without it. Dosing Yuuri may be preventing her from contacting other BC users including but not limited to the students.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 13:13 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:35 |
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Yeah, I also think the symptoms our survivors have displayed so far may not be related to acute radiation poisoning. Still, that's only a hypothesis. Here's the wiki on radiation syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome The main reason I've been wondering about this is because no one has had any noted skin change beyond turning pale (which could be any number of things). I'd expect burns from Gy serious enough to cause headaches. You can start getting skin irritation from as relatively little as 0.35 Gy according to the article. Our team has had significantly more exposure than that for certain, and some of that happened when their AD doses were wearing off - given that AD only stays at therapeutic levels in the body for 1 hr, the half life of the drug must be pretty short...
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 18:02 |
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OddHaberdasher posted:Oh poo poo, NOW we gettin' to da reel pseudoscience ma bois. Is it possible that this thing they were trying to do would be trying to make a 'consciousness without form' sort of thing? Or maybe a 'groupmind'? Or, or, if we gonna REALLY get with the crazy, maybe CirclMastr was right. Consciousness transfer of some sort is probably not too far off the mark!
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 00:32 |
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Logicblade posted:This isn't a nuclear lab at all, it's a BC Lab. It all makes sense. No wonder people aren't instantly dying from accumulated radiation, they're being hit by... well whatever the gently caress BC radiation is. The voice in Watase's head is telling him not to think too deeply because he's making more of it when he does. ... or something. That means the AD they've been injecting isn't an anti radiation drug, but an anti BC drug. So that might explain why Yuuri (a child and probable Esper) is so drat reluctant to take it. Ha! One more won over to the psychic spillover hypothesis.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2016 02:38 |
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OddHaberdasher posted:But, if that's the case, why is it that in the flashbacks we've seen so far (and considered to be true for lack of other options), when Watase first met Yuuri he learned her identity and then gave her directions to safety? It'd be one thing if the flashbacks stopped at the point he learned her name, but he actively, if not saved her, then put her in a situation to save herself (pretty sure that's how it happened, have not gone back to check). Meddling Kids confirmed for Meddling, Ena's 'school trip' story refuted. She also said he did something cruel to her, which confuses me. I'm not sure if the cruel thing went unsaid or if I just misunderstood/skimmed some element of that scene.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2016 01:33 |
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Holy poo poo, Ena. I mean, I kinda suspected, like most everyone else, that she either isn't or isn't merely a teacher, but
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2016 19:56 |
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"Discard" isn't the same as "dispose", and memory recovery might not have anything to do with a clone receiving uploaded memories from an original or previous copy (and a clone would have the same genetic insufficiency, right?). So if they discarded a damaged subject after ascertaining that they didn't have the right gene, whatever tests or experiments they performed on that subject might have resulted in cognitive impairments. They perhaps haven't discarded a human subject before and aren't sure what the consequences for that former subject will be. That subject is probably not the dead Yuuri (that's just a hunch -- this corpse's new, right? why would it be atop rubble if she was killed before the LABO disaster?). The discarded subject could be Watase or whoever is possessing (?) Watase, given the memory problems our protag is facing. efb also, I think Ena might actually be an investigator of some stripe rather than a psycho murderer or heh teacher.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 02:12 |
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tiistai posted:I took the "radio" talk to mean she might have been receiving psychic messages, probably something unpleasant about Watase. Yeah, that not at all innocent conversation was pretty clearly this.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 16:55 |
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OddHaberdasher posted:I could see this going on with Ena dead, but you don't kill off people before you have an actual Sense choice with them, so unless these kids are REAL good at faking death, this is bad end confirmed. Maybe, just maybe, if Ena is willing to do this for us, we should trust her. To be fair, if someone is trying to split your head open with an axe, shooting them is not unreasonable. I wish we could get a glimpse of Subject N before we hit the end of this path, though. I hope we do.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 18:54 |
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OddHaberdasher posted:Course he has something to do with it, he's on the watch list, but I harbor serious doubts he is the Subject N unless things went bad very recently before the 'fire'. I'm with you on this.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 20:52 |
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Yeah, I can see him having studied martial arts in the past, but it'd be pretty easy to be uncomfortable handling a gun. Especially one you've not handled before.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 23:45 |
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Danaru posted:On the other hand: This assumes the Watase now is the same Watase as then. I'm not sure of that yet.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 00:01 |
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"Salyu" weirds me out too, tbh, but there is so much other bizarre poo poo here that a wonky nickname barely registers.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 18:27 |
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Jesus. That's grim. Is this the end of this particular path? I don't feel like very much was revealed, just more questions. I was hoping to learn a bit more about Ukita at the very least.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 18:42 |
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I'm guessing either Kazami or Watase is the observation target in Sirius. I think it may actually be Kazami (mysterious dead sister, remember) rather than Watase, so I'm setting my senses high for her, I guess...
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 00:19 |
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I don't yet feel that Ukita's really a villain/minion. There's so much going on that he just strikes me more as a scapegoat, a pawn someone's playing against Watase. Obviously this may be proven incorrect on our next run and Ukita's truly a rat bastard.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 01:57 |
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I'm glad Ena became more sympathetic on this path, even if she also simultaneously managed to get more suspicious. I wonder if everything we've seen has even been real? How much of this stuff might actually be visual disturbances induced by the ~ ghost reactor ~? e: also wanted to say I've rated the thread a
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 18:04 |
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Asphyxiating people is not a safe way to render them unconscious. There's no safe way to do that. And leaving an unconscious person unsupervised is dangerous as hell for them -- what the christ, Watase?
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 23:17 |
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he's already brain damaged and we lamp-shaded some other dumb tropes so why not this one for the love of amine whyyy
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 23:31 |
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Cyouni posted:To be fair, it is slightly safer than having her wandering around with people trying to kill her - see what happened in Normal End. And you totally know she'd follow Watase out if she had the chance. They'd probably be safer if they went together instead of splitting the party. Teamwork!
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 00:09 |
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Wait, if Natsuhiko's BCusing Watase, and he and Salyu are buds, why doesn't he just BCtell Salyu to stop trying to axe murder Watase?
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2016 16:35 |
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So my grip on heat is pretty weak. 53 C is about 106 F right? Putting aside heat injuries that don't include burns, does anyone know what kind of trauma in what timeframe we are looking at for full body immersion in that water?
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 18:46 |
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Logicblade posted:Actually it's about 127 F, so that's pretty rough for air temperatures alone. Oh, that's significantly more. Based on that, I found this paper which includes a time to scald chart from the American Burn Association. Three minutes of exposure at 52 C (per the chart) for a 3rd degree burn. Yikes.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2016 19:35 |
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Gridlocked posted:Ahh so what they thought was radiation being detected on their tablets was actually these WX particles. Finally, I was right about something.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 02:36 |
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HydroSphere posted:I'll vote for A, moving on to Root B straight away. Simply because we know we'll get new information in Root B, whereas we might not get that in the friendship and bad ending scenes in Root A. Yup. A change of pace is nice.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 20:04 |
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It's his signature wrestling move. Unfortunately he doesn't remember that he was banned from wrestling murder.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2016 02:01 |
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tiistai posted:Oh, I guess we might not have gotten a point for either of the girls if they had both been at the same value. I'm hoping it means Yuuri's a graduate and either already in college or working towards the exams, ronin-style, rather than being a creepy shut-in waifu analogue. e. I should say also that I appreciate that Mashiro actually gets paid to come cook for Natsuhiko and this isn't a 100% true to form ~ girl next door cooks for me, my harem is complete ~ thing.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 18:24 |
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Or that you're a rebel/delinquent with bleached hair. Naughty!
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 17:11 |
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Anime or not, it's batshit to seriously ask one young kid to protect another kid from weird poo poo happening in your technocratic surveillance state.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 21:55 |
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Because she's a kid who probably has some severe social and emotional difficulties thanks to how the adults around her probably treated her as her prodigious abilities developed. Which is why it's still weird to burden someone who's physically and psychologically immature with the protection of another person. anime anime anime Mom is the worst character so far. She's the most suspicious one! This ghost reactor business is her fault, mark my words.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 23:37 |
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Don't forget the Persona crossover where the after school special lesson is that cruel or intrusive thoughts don't necessarily reflect one's full feelings about someone and don't have to translate into evil actions, and that honest communication and quality time with your fam can stop eldritch evils and ghost reactors cold.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 03:17 |
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Welp. I'm not a big fan of "the ordinary world" part of most stories' set up, and that holds here, but I do like that the writer(s) worked on spicing it up. I appreciate their effort here.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 19:16 |
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Alright. Top Yuuri, Salyu High Mashiro, Natsuhiko
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 21:49 |
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A sincere heart blah blah blah power of friendship. BEFRIEND EVERYONE, EVEN UKITA.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 22:56 |
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All adults are evil, especially adults in positions of official authority. In another VN LP, I think there was some discussion about the elements of style prized in Japanese literature vs. Western literature, particularly in repetition vs. novelty. Does anyone recall the specifics?
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 19:47 |
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Today's BC conversation brought to you by The Lucifer Principle and the Two Truths Doctrine.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 18:52 |
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So Salyu has a sort of specialized support "animal" to compensate for her poor social skills. I wonder if the condition is related to autism, or if it's related to how she was brought up. Though I suppose the story probably won't get into that.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 20:21 |
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Pollyanna posted:I can vouch for the deliciousness of Chaliapin steak. And Chaliapin-style cube steak is also divine.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2017 02:15 |
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Ghost reactors.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2017 04:27 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:35 |
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Mashiro is real into cardio, okay?
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 04:53 |