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The overall theme was 'they're acting like they're hiding something from me' with the me in that case being Ukita. That's pretty much it.
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TheMcD posted:Well, at least we know he can back up his confidence! Also nice rugged chin there old Watase.
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As soon as she pulled out the gun. Now we just know what kind of Secret Agency she may belong to! Also which side that Agency is on.
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Apr 21, 2017 08:32
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Best Buddy Jun... WAS BEST BUDDIES WITH THE ENGINE CUTTER ALL ALONG! 
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Apr 22, 2017 00:11
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Conflict with Teach or Sudden Tag-Teamup are both likely options. Watase doesn't exactly have time to mess around with the Engine Cutter clock ticking.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:55
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Salyu's jump kicks are pretty hard core and Watase's attention was fixed on Teach.Cyouni posted:Turns out Salyu's really good at guerrilla assault. The latter is interesting because it means Natsuhiko's mom is playing something of a long-con on LABO despite doing a lot of their research. Alternatively, Rokumei and LABO are less united than everyone thinks.
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Apr 23, 2017 23:30
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To be fair, it's just now that Nagisa got a portrait. I'm waiting to see what happens when the cast figures it out. Because ow. Best Buddy Jun 
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Apr 25, 2017 21:32
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Normally Natsuhiko would have a problem with this since Kazami always smells of flowers but fortunately right now she smells of burnt flowers 
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Apr 27, 2017 23:26
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CirclMastr posted:Can't wait to see how Natsuhiko gets easily duped yet again. The corpse is not N's corpse it's your corpse ah hah hah hah hah! Kinda hoping something different happens because even with the whole Senses Sympathy bleed-through explanation it'll be the third time it's happened.
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I feel it's pertinent that this is Teach saying this and thus you can weave up a whole myriad of reasons why she's saying it (even when trying to tell the truth she can't help lie because habit/SECRET SERVICE TRAINING etc.) aside from taking it as gospel since the ambiguity of memories was already covered.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:51
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Good lord Teach, your memories have so many words in them. Figures.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:09
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A bundle of it is stuff we already know/suspected (Come on, 'Alice' and Salyu look pretty similar that's kind of a dead giveaway in these games where art assets are at something of a premium.) That still doesn't forgive Teach for being boring about her Good Guy Secret Service lifestyle 
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May 2, 2017 00:17
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Oh no Watase, whoever thought that getting pushed out of the ring by Salyu would have him come face to face with Kazami!? Out of the frying pan and into the fire he went! WILL THE WATASEMANIA BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE KRAZAMI!?
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May 4, 2017 21:29
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Oh boy, an expansion on the concept of what Natsuhiko went through. This is going to be a trip.
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May 6, 2017 21:11
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Now trending on the Rokumei City Boards: #ukitadidnothingwrong #mashironLIVES #dontbelieveLABOslies #Ihaveateenageaxemurderasmybrainbackup
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May 8, 2017 21:17
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If there was anything Best Buddy Jun did wrong... It's that she was Best Buddies with the Engine Cutter. Is that so wrong?
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May 9, 2017 06:42
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It doesn't help that their laboratories and scientists get blown up/burnt to heck/killed via malice madness when it happens so documentation is understandably a little spotty.
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May 10, 2017 00:10
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Yeah no, there is no way that that situation wasn't taken advantage of in some way considering how things have gone and how Rokumei City is set up.
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May 10, 2017 10:05
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For all that Q might have a point in doing this, they still set off a bunch of bombs and may/may not have been responsible for the last bomb blowing up early. We mostly know what LABO's been doing because we've been shown and told about it, but our only line to Q is through Watase and Ukita who's actions make sense based on what we know of LABO. For all we know Q could be a rival communicator research branch who, in addition to doing all of the stuff that LABO does, is using Anti-BC sentiment to throw wrenches into other LABO-facilities because those branches are 'winning' the BC arms race. I totally understand the Miyoko hate in the thread but to me it seems like she's middle management caught between a rock and a hard place and trying to make the best of it 
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May 11, 2017 21:42
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Or to sum everything up a bit more succinctly: Alice has the social grace of a supercomputer stuffed doll considering that's how she's able to determine emotions in other people (Also explains why the doll was able to hack LABO. It was probably developed there!) Mister Olympus posted:I mean, the question here is whether she even could; the game has laid out that everything LABO does is at least implicitly condoned by, if not sponsored by the government. Maybe she could try and seek asylum somewhere else, but even then would that work out? Would she be able to leave the country, or be believed, or be able to convince international authorities of the truth of her word over their peers'? They'd want her for her BC science-ness so that'd be something of a bargaining chip for her seeking asylum. Also considering how LABO's been kind of bilking the government yolk (see Ena's memories) she could probably testify against the LABO higher ups as well. I mean, who's worse: the dudes who ordered and made it so they could get away with all of this human experimentation, or the people actually doing that experimentation? EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 00:56 on May 13, 2017 |
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Explosions posted:I mean, the actual answer is take a few iphone videos, publicly whistleblow, and then continue your research for a company that doesn't kidnap world leaders or own child slaves. "They control the police" isn't a good excuse. This doesn't work as well as you'd think in practice. I mean sure you're an ace BC researcher but you whistleblew for those dudes over at LABO so that means you'd probably do the same here at OLAB because, really, those LABO dudes had the right idea and we're totally stealing those methods. Whistleblowing is a sort of last resort because it has a track record of tanking your 'hire-ability.' That's not conductive to doing more work to solve problems what need solved (the lifespan limit.) Edit: Oh yeah, there's also the whole thing that Rokumei city is practically a police state However, that struggle of 'do I do what I believe is the right thing now and deal with the consequences or do I suck it up to accomplish my goal and then ream these bastards for all the stuff they had me pull' is more interesting than the trope we got. I wasn't surprised at all by any of that Miyoko segment. It's all properly foreshadowed and all of the pieces are there and SSNeoman's prediction is certainly possible. I'm currently 50-50 on Miyoko dying as a martyr vs. WATASEMANIA, SLAYU and TEACH being stone cold badasses and saving everyone while LABO explodes behind them all cool like.
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Oh no, the backup systems restarted the ghost reactor! It's ghost-o'clock now!
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May 14, 2017 21:06
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Oh no Natsuhiko, you fed everyone's memories into the Ghost Reactor! Edit: e;fb 
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May 15, 2017 21:49
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Well yeah, it's obvious she wasn't maliced up from the lack of the consistent and rather noticeable Racoon Eyeshadow that everyone else had. Meanwhile, a Thing Natsuhiko did wrong: using BC for six hours straight. You're supposed to see a doctor after four!
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Oh, welp. Kazami has aptitude with BC. Now we're going to find out what happens when another BC user gets Malice Virus'd.
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Right, it's an explanation for her actions, but it's not that good of a justification. Especially since she plays the 'absentee parent working to save everyone including their kid and has domestic troubles because of being such an absentee parent' trope to a T. That's the real problem with her. She hasn't done anything outside of that mold.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Was Kazami being a Communicator ever hinted at outside of the "Observation Target Ka" mentions? I admit I didn't see it coming, but I also haven't been paying that close attention to the finer details of the script. However, rather sneakily there's two additional narrative hints that the game does: First, the comparison between her losing Nagisa and Natsuhiko losing Yuuri. Second, that she's the last person to be de-Rage Virus'd. Thus due to narrative format she would be the hardest hit by the Malice. Even then in my head it was a straight 50-50 odds between 'Kazami is a Communicator' and 'Kazami's attachment to pre-Nified Nagisa' would be the big twist/stumbling block that awards her her 'final boss' status. Edit: Oh right voting. All three options have merit although I view them more in an 'effort' light. IE: Favoring Watase would have Natsuhiko focus his efforts to save Watase, while favoring Kazami would have him focus on her. This means to me that there's three ways to defuse Kazami (who is the locus of the conflict here:) defuse her reasoning, attempt De-malicing ASAP or attempt De-malicing after the situation has played out/stabilized a bit. Thus my gut says Favor Kazami. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 00:51 on May 27, 2017 |
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Poor Dojima and Hiyama. Faceless goons until the end.
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Implied faces don't count! I did forget about the Afro-Pompadour though.
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Since Natsuhiko doing nothing seems to be the way of things getting done right I wouldn't be surprised if that's the actual answer. Also a bit late, but I would have Voted C. OH WELLS.
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Unfortunately for you Natsuhiko, this time THE WATASEMANIA cannot be stopped!
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TheMcD posted:Yeah, that was kind of obvious, though I think only a minority of people get that. WATASEMANIA REIGNS SUPREME! Also I laughed at the Clue Cards too.
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It's less of an Epilogue and more of a coda/denouement at this point though.
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David Corbett posted:Nothing says "wholesome" like a four-way love triangle between you, your childhood friend and enabler, a woman whom you primarily know as a hallucination, and a fourteen-year-old girl who was kept locked up as a science experiment and test subject for >90% of her life. I mean, just because they're all ugly geese doesn't make it any less accurate.
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TheMcD posted:--Prof. Tsubakiyama once said in a lecture... That all bodies of energy mix upon contact. So even if the BC particle energy did decay, that doesn't mean it disappeared completely. So perhaps it was released from LABO's dark facility and spread to all corners of the world. Though if that were the case, then I guess the spirit's consciousness would start fading too. It'll probably never try to speak to us again. After all, for its nine hours of existence, it used quite unreliable communication. Jeez thanks you guys it's not like Senses Sympathy was logical or easy to use or anything 
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I wouldn't have bought the special edition extra bonus if I didn't want to see more of them! Stop putting words in my mouth in game BC Ghost me!
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Cyouni posted:From Natsuhiko and Mashiro to Ena. Best dog Sirius supporting everyone. And then Best Buddy Jun inherited Best Dog Sirius's spirit in becoming Best Buddy.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Is muscle memory stored in the brain? Better question: if BC is informational energy and muscle memory is stored in the muscles, can we use BC to turn someone into The Hulk!?
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EponymousMrYar posted:Jun Moribe: 8. Jun is a Boy howdy. Jun Moribe: 8. Best Buddy Jun remains the Best Buddy there ever was. This is in no way influenced by my tendency to moonlight as a Metaphorical Engine Cutter (RIP AND TEAR  ) and mostly influenced by her relationships with everyone else, especially:Kazami Tachibana 7. Now that Kazami actually got some really good backstory I feel she's one of the more holistic characters in the game. Her losing Nagisa sets up a parallel between her and Natsuhiko only in her case she had Best Buddy Jun to ground her in reality while Natsuhiko... Also that event firmly ties her into the core of the conflict when before she felt like an extra to me. Also I'm a sucker for love stories with happy endings. Watase Kasasagi: 6. WATASEMANIA RUNS WILD! WATASEMANIA PERFORMS AN EXCEPTIONAL FACE TURN! WATASEMANIA SHOWS INTEGRITY EVEN IN THE DARKEST TWILIGHT HOURS! He also still makes me chuckle at all those bad ends in the first part  Louise Yui Sannomiya: 5. The perils of BC memory alteration given form. Not just with wiping out her personality and her history but with exploring a potential use of BC and it's effects. At least it didn't sap her completely of snark! Also explains where she got her Weasel-bot and why it was so effective on LABO's systems. BUT THEN A BACKUP APPEARED DEUS EX WEASELBOT I'M ONTO YOU! Ena Tsubakiyama: 4. Teach was actually a spy for the Government. Teach was also actually a decent person doing her best during all of this. Teach's memories were also exceptionally wordy so that loses her a few points Keiji Ukita: 3. Congratulations Ukita your backstory also vindicates you of so many things (that you were middle management and not a Senior Fellow) and that you also tried to do something about what was being done at LABO and warn everyone else about finding out too much. Now if only you hadn't resorted to Terrorism... Mashiro Toba: 2. Heart still in the right place, head still not and it turns out she's nowhere near as good as Best Buddy Jun at this whole 'help someone get over the trauma of losing someone they care about a lot.' I mean you even got the easier case in this Mashiro! Yuuri isn't a blood relative of Natsuhiko and you still cocked it up! Then again Yuuri is a girl and Natsuhiko is a boy... Also didn't help that your efforts were dragged down by Yuuri so the real problem is all of your character stuff being front loaded so you barely had any impact in the eve of the story. Natsuhiko Tenkawa: 1. Well Natsuhiko, you started being Wishy-Washy again. And then you started falling for the same tricks again. At least you managed to stand up for yourself even if it was for the wrong person! Yuuri Kotono: 0. You were far better as a mysterious girl ghost with girl ghost cooties. Now you're just a locus of confrontation and misfortune. And you're playing it seriously! The only reason these are bearable is because of the schadenfraud/black humor associated with them in the first place! Honorable Mention: Subject N. Poor Nagisa, at least you got to become a pretty savvy villian who forced Natsuhiko to not be wishy-washy about something important. Dishonorable Mention: Miyoko Tenkawa. Hey Natsuhiko's mom, I understand what you're trying to do but I now also see where Natsuhiko got his detestable wishy-washyness from and you have a serious case of 'wanting your cake and eating it as well' in regards to trying to stop LABO while helping them BC research. At least you did mitigate some things (IE with Salyu) but in terms of actually doing so you're not even half an Ukita. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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