Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Demicol posted:

Last episode was good and I liked this show overall. I might check out the LN's and hope there's another season in the future.

I think I'm the same, mainly if a second season isn't likely.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Okay episode, okay season. Not garbage, but recycling bin worthy. Would watch a second season if that ever comes around.

As for the last episode what was the deal with the rabbits foot? Did it cause Ripple to come back or was that used to read Fav's mind? If the latter does that assume that Ripple would be convinced not to cut the master's device? She seemed like she would have done it anyway.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Alpha Kenny Juan posted:

Okay episode, okay season. Not garbage, but recycling bin worthy. Would watch a second season if that ever comes around.

As for the last episode what was the deal with the rabbits foot? Did it cause Ripple to come back or was that used to read Fav's mind? If the latter does that assume that Ripple would be convinced not to cut the master's device? She seemed like she would have done it anyway.

The Rabbits foot lets you have a Mulligan basically, in this case it probably reacted to Snow Whites desire to save at least one of the magical girls and saved Ripple by healing her enough to avoid death from losing an arm + Exhaustion. Snow White's ability is Telepathy (Slightly nerfed version where it only works on people in "Distress" which can still be fairly useful in combat), so she was hearing Fav the whole time and warned Ripple. We only heard Fav's side of things after Ripple got up; presumably Snow White in a rather fun character moment of pure awesomeness was hearing Fav's thoughts of concern about the well bring for his Terminal but we the audience was hearing it because it made for a more interesting scene. "I can still hear you."

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Raenir Salazar posted:

The Rabbits foot lets you have a Mulligan basically, in this case it probably reacted to Snow Whites desire to save at least one of the magical girls and saved Ripple by healing her enough to avoid death from losing an arm + Exhaustion. Snow White's ability is Telepathy (Slightly nerfed version where it only works on people in "Distress" which can still be fairly useful in combat), so she was hearing Fav the whole time and warned Ripple.

Regarding Snow White (minor but somewhat predictable spoilers about her power) her ability ends up covering almost all mind-reading, with the exception of people who are constantly worry-free and express no distress (who don't practically exist under normal circumstances). This is especially true during fights, where pretty much everyone would have some inherent concern over things like "I don't want to be killed by this girl."

For anyone on the fence about reading the LNs, I recommend them - everything post-Volume 1 is considerably better than Volume 1 in my opinion, particularly in terms of being less predictable (from what I can tell there's no way to really predict who lives and who dies, especially in Arc 4).

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Ytlaya posted:

Regarding Snow White (minor but somewhat predictable spoilers about her power) her ability ends up covering almost all mind-reading, with the exception of people who are constantly worry-free and express no distress (who don't practically exist under normal circumstances). This is especially true during fights, where pretty much everyone would have some inherent concern over things like "I don't want to be killed by this girl."

For anyone on the fence about reading the LNs, I recommend them - everything post-Volume 1 is considerably better than Volume 1 in my opinion, particularly in terms of being less predictable (from what I can tell there's no way to really predict who lives and who dies, especially in Arc 4).

Sounds more and more like Danganronpa. :v:

I would legit like a RPG VN adaption of this series.

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011

Raenir Salazar posted:

I would legit like a RPG VN adaption of this series.

Only if its on mobile!

This felt like a long prologue. I'm definitely interested in more. How much has been translated?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

AfroSquirrel posted:

Only if its on mobile!

This felt like a long prologue. I'm definitely interested in more. How much has been translated?

4 arcs and the 5th is being translated. I think that only 5 or 6 arcs are out in Japan, though; the translator has just been moving really quickly through existing material.

If I recall correctly, the first arc (this anime) is Volume 1 and all future arcs are 2 volumes long. There's also one or two volumes of side stories that are pretty good (there's one that covers characters from the first two arcs).

edit: The translations aren't mentioned on novelupdates last I checked, though the website linking to them (they're in google documents) should show up on the first page of google results.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

This show was so loving good. I'd definitely watch a second season or read the LNs.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
felt a tad anticlimactic, like it ended up being a superhero origin story, except we never got to see snow white hunting down terrorists and being a badass. i mean, she finally learnt some sick martial arts moves in the epilogue, but that's it?

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Phobophilia posted:

felt a tad anticlimactic, like it ended up being a superhero origin story, except we never got to see snow white hunting down terrorists and being a badass. i mean, she finally learnt some sick martial arts moves in the epilogue, but that's it?

There's more Snow White in future arcs.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

One thing regarding future arcs is that, even though Snow White remains a character, she doesn't really become a central character again for a while (and even when she does she's usually not what would be considered a protagonist, even if she gets some POV chapters). So it's not like the first arc is the intro arc before going into The Adventures of Snow White; it just sort of introduces some of the setting and a couple characters that are of importance later.

The dynamic between Snow White and Ripple is kinda interesting, though (end of Arc 3 spoilers) I wonder how she's going to react to finding out that Pythie is controlling Ripple now. I guess on the bright side she had previously assumed Ripple was dead, so "being mind-controlled" is arguably better than that, but it seems like the narrative keeps kicking her while she's down and taking away all her personal connections.

My one gripe about later volumes (various arc 3 and 4 spoilers) is that almost everyone dies every single time. This didn't bother me in the first two arcs because the situation was one that directly encouraged a "everyone kills each other until only a few are left" situation. But in the third and fourth arcs it seems like it was less necessary in terms of the narrative. Like, it makes sense for Pukin to easily kill a bunch of other characters in Arc 3 (since Pukin is waaay stronger than them), but it wasn't an inevitable result like the situations in Arcs 1 and 2. This especially bugged me in Arc 4, because "they defeat Grim Heart and Shufflin without almost everyone dying" could have been a feasible outcome if not for Grim Heart/Shufflin having enough heads to cut off to resupply so many times (and Shufflin's power being so loving ridiculous). Also I was upset that Prism Cherry died because I liked her character design and her power could have been interesting.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

I really enjoyed this show a lot, and if people reading the LNs say it only gets better from here on, then I'm definitely for more. I'll definitely have to read the LNs if season 2 doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
Show wasn't an all-time great, or even AotS, but it ended up being better-executed than it appeared to me going in. Could've done more to explain some of the characters, but it was willing to follow through on its premises and let its more intelligent characters pursue their goals in a rational manner.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


It was good enough for me to want a second season.

HelloWinter
May 27, 2012

"Hey, Nagito, what'cha
thinkin' about?"

"Oh, y'know. Murder stuff."
I think I'd want a second season especially for the fact that there is somewhat a consensus with the novels that it just gets better from here. I enjoyed the show though, for what it had to offer. I didn't have high expectations from the get-go but I appreciated its fast pacing.

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
The last episode could have been more fleshed out but it was an enjoyable enough series, it filled the killing game anime gap I had after Danganronpa 3 finished at least.

Since everyone has been hyping up the LNs I was thinking of checking them out, would I be ok to start at vol2 or were there some parts of the first arc that the anime didn't cover so I should start from the beginning?

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



I still don't know if I liked this show.

The concept was great, but everything about it seemed off. Some of the deaths seemed edgy and dark for edgy and dark's sake, and on top of that, it's genuinely difficult to get emotionally affected by someone like Nemurin getting murdered when she was only around long enough for me to learn her name. This goes for some of the other deaths too.

I'm glad the writing supposedly improves somewhat as the series goes on.

Adelheid
Mar 29, 2010

I wasn't a big fan of this show, though I kept watching it anyway. But enough people talked them up that I looked for later novel translations.

I haven't gotten that far, but it's already drastically better than this was.

darkgray
Dec 20, 2005

My best pose facing the morning sun!

Takoluka posted:

I still don't know if I liked this show.

I'm with you. I still managed to get through the entire series, so it must have had some entertainment value, but mostly it was just depressing. I struggle to find a point beyond "cute girl gore", and it felt like they just tacked on poo poo for shock value, like pregnancy and whatnot. Maybe it got more development in the novels to make it less artificial.

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

I can make you
worth your weight
in gold!
I think they did a good job of avoiding the pitfalls that a show like this could have dropped into. Most of the deaths had some meaning and impact behind them, and weren't there just for the sake of killing someone.

Most of them, because there's no way anyone was going to care about the Peaky Angels dying.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Command Ant posted:

I think they did a good job of avoiding the pitfalls that a show like this could have dropped into. Most of the deaths had some meaning and impact behind them, and weren't there just for the sake of killing someone.

Most of them, because there's no way anyone was going to care about the Peaky Angels dying.

The Peaky Angels are those weirdly compelling horror movie murder victims where you cheer when they get shanked as part of some sort of kharmic justice.

e: fixed.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 19, 2016

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

So, if I wanted to read the LNs, how would I do it?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Cialis Railman posted:

So, if I wanted to read the LNs, how would I do it?

Google docs here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwUphuy8AsxEVDJfaXJrcHdMVU0 (Feel free to let me know if it's not okay to post this link.)

Probably the biggest thing I like more about future volumes is that they have fewer terrible characters that you don't care about (like the Peaky Angels), and even the evil ones have more compelling/interesting motivations aside from just randomly being a huge rear end in a top hat. Especially Arc 2 (Volumes 2-3), which has a much better cast than Volume 1 in my opinion.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Dec 19, 2016

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Ytlaya posted:

Google docs here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwUphuy8AsxEVDJfaXJrcHdMVU0 (Feel free to let me know if it's not okay to post this link.)

Probably the biggest thing I like more about future volumes is that they have fewer terrible characters that you don't care about (like the Peaky Angels), and even the evil ones have more compelling/interesting motivations aside from just randomly being a huge rear end in a top hat. Especially Arc 2 (Volumes 2-3), which has a much better cast than Volume 2 in my opinion.

Cool, thanks!

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



I'd rather have watched a show about people getting happiness in their lives from becoming magical girls without the murdering one another part. A CMGDCT show if you will.

Matoi has been the most enjoyable magical girl show for me this season. Flip Flappers has been more enjoyable than Matoi overall, but not because of the magical girl aspect of it.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

nielsm posted:

I'd rather have watched a show about people getting happiness in their lives from becoming magical girls without the murdering one another part. A CMGDCT show if you will.

I recommend watching Card Captor Sakura if you haven't already regardless of whether or not you've already seen it.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



AnoHito posted:

I recommend watching Card Captor Sakura if you haven't already regardless of whether or not you've already seen it.

Yeah I have a third or half of it on DVD, unfortunately didn't manage to grab the rest while it was available.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



On the subject of Not-Madokas, how did you guys feel about Daybreak Illusion?

Demicol
Nov 8, 2009

I started watching it after re-watching Yuki Yuna earlier this year , only about 5 episodes in right now and while I like the visuals there hasn't been much to the plot yet. I should probably finish it.

Eldataluta
May 31, 2012

Takoluka posted:

On the subject of Not-Madokas, how did you guys feel about Daybreak Illusion?

It was awful. Nonsense story and a weird subplot about the villain trying to breed with the fourteen year old protagonist.

Anime_Otaku
Dec 6, 2009

InspectorCarbonara posted:

The last episode could have been more fleshed out but it was an enjoyable enough series, it filled the killing game anime gap I had after Danganronpa 3 finished at least.

Sorry for the derail but this is the first I heard of there being more danganronpa anime, what's the watch order as it's in 3 parts, also was 2 just not adapted?

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.

Anime_Otaku posted:

Sorry for the derail but this is the first I heard of there being more danganronpa anime, what's the watch order as it's in 3 parts, also was 2 just not adapted?
Yeah they skipped doing an anime of 2 in order to do an anime that finished the story of both games. The watch order is the order of release so you go Future 1, Despair 1, Future 2, Despair 2, etc and the hope "arc" is actually just the last episode.

Anime_Otaku
Dec 6, 2009
Ah thanks, just where I'm looking at them Future, Despair and Hope are all listed completely separately.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Takoluka posted:

On the subject of Not-Madokas, how did you guys feel about Daybreak Illusion?

There were interesting aspects to it and kinda gritty; but I think it falls short of better Not Madokas.

Oh god Rebellion was awesome.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Takoluka posted:

On the subject of Not-Madokas, how did you guys feel about Daybreak Illusion?

:itwaspoo:

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
im reading arc 2 of the series, lol at ripple beaten up by ronald mcdonald and colonel sanders

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Phobophilia posted:

im reading arc 2 of the series, lol at ripple beaten up by ronald mcdonald and colonel sanders

That's one of the side stories, right? Not Arc 2. The one where she meets and fights with Leonetta.

Kytrarewn
Jul 15, 2011

Solving mysteries in
Bb, F and D.
The new Wixoss (I might watch the old one next season, since there's not too much that intrigues me) has been hitting some of the "Not Madoka" tones pretty well for me, for what it's worth. The setting is completely different, but the stakes are similar.

I liked this show well enough that I'll probably try to read the LNs. What I've seen from glancing at the spoiler tagged sections intrigues me.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



Eldataluta posted:

It was awful. Nonsense story and a weird subplot about the villain trying to breed with the fourteen year old protagonist.

But enough about Sword Art Online II.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

kyubeybryant
Jan 4, 2013
Yuki Yuna is in a weird spot where it simultaneously has cool and lovely elements, like Togo being a paraplegic magical girl where her disability is treated realistically and with respect instead of fetishized, but at the same time it'll use her for blatant fanservice even though she's a middle schooler. It has good ideas, doesn't try too hard to be dark, and it's above average in a lot of ways but unless you're desensitized to that kind of stuff it's a tough one to recommend. Comparing yuki yuna to madoka is sort of misleading because yuna goes for a very different tone despite the obvious surface parallels, it's not violent in the way you expect.

Eldataluta posted:

It was awful. Nonsense story and a weird subplot about the villain trying to breed with the twelve year old protagonist.
Then again it's leagues better than the other magical girl animes that get compared to madoka like this crap

  • Locked thread