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crossposting from season thread because i felt weird about dropping all the deaths, even spoilered, in there.Silver2195 posted:MGRP is a lot less cynical than you might think. I think the idea is that the point of magical girls is to help people, and them being forced to betray and kill each other is the result of Fav and Cranberry hijacking the system because they're sadists, rather than What Would Happen If People Got Superpowers in Real Life or whatever. Snow White has done a lot of good with her powers without fighting anyone, and it feels like we're supposed to see her as the most successful, in a way. there's that aspect to the deaths so far, but if you're going to center the show around Snow White and her helpful pacifism and hope for cooperation, you could say all the dead girls have fallen short in some way as well. Nemurin doesn't actually help people in the physical world, and disregards Fav's warning about this. Ruler instigates the first conflict on top of treating her subjects like poo poo. La Pucelle lives by an outdated code of Magical Girl Honor that has her face deadly conflict alone, though the big turning point of that fight is when she commits to and tries to justify killing another magical girl. Magicaloid also gets her comeuppance for trying to kill. fwiw while instigating conflict at all seems to be punished, Magicaloid is particularly cavalier about it in comparison to Pucelle, and even debates killing twice. if this is actually a trend, it kinda reinforces my feeling that Cranberry might be exiting the show before the end. dogsicle fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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well then. also jesus gently caress going into this show i wasn't expecting swim swim to be the looming harbinger of doom but i guess i should've seen it coming since that's literally her with the scythe in the op. do NOT gently caress with swim swim
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Gyra_Solune posted:do NOT gently caress with swim swim
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Nov 11, 2016 23:52
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Gyra_Solune posted:well then. She's also like an eight-year-old girl, for added scariness. The power of a magical girl with the mentality of a child...
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Nov 12, 2016 00:06
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N-no... Magicaloid  GOD, I hope that thing with the rabbit's foot turns out to be true. Would fit her MO. I miss her already. On the other hand, I don't care for Cranberry, she seems utterly generic and I hope she gets Swim-Swim'd instead of becoming the final boss or something
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Nov 12, 2016 03:15
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Torquemadras posted:N-no... Cranberry's characterization is definitely on the thin side. Not that anyone in the show is super fleshed out (the more interesting ones, like Ripple, are interesting mainly because some aspect of their personality is still somewhat ambiguous), but when you compare Cranberry to other characters of the same general archetype, like Hisoka from Hunter x Hunter, she seems a bit dull.
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Nov 12, 2016 03:23
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Silver2195 posted:Cranberry's characterization is definitely on the thin side. Not that anyone in the show is super fleshed out (the more interesting ones, like Ripple, are interesting mainly because some aspect of their personality is still somewhat ambiguous), but when you compare Cranberry to other characters of the same general archetype, like Hisoka from Hunter x Hunter, she seems a bit dull. I wonder if Cranberry's even a person and not, like, an NPC that found her way into the real world.
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By the way, I just realized that there is an actual translation of the LNs at Baka-Tsuki. Somehow I hadn't paid attention and assumed they'd only translated the prologue. (The prologue reveals something about Hardgore Alice that hasn't been revealed yet in the anime, by the way.)
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Nov 12, 2016 06:19
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There's translations for the first 4 volumes floating around apparently. Just gonna state that the anime is only gonna cover the first volume, and that each of the volumes are mostly self-contained.
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Nov 12, 2016 06:29
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Allarion posted:There's translations for the first 4 volumes floating around apparently. Just gonna state that the anime is only gonna cover the first volume, and that each of the volumes are mostly self-contained. It's interesting because usually LN adaptations cover more than 1 volume in 12 episodes. Not sure if the MGRP volumes are extra long or if the anime is adding stuff.
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Nov 12, 2016 06:36
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It just means there's enough story to cover a season. LN volumes tend to not tell their full arc within one volume, hence why animes tend to adapt multiple volumes, or they stop short a volume cause adapting an additional volume would have them end abruptly in the middle of an arc. MagiPro happens to tell a fully self-contained story in each of its volumes, so adapting volume 2 would be telling two separate stories.
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Well, Magicaloid's definitely dead, then.   Calamity Mary was the big star of this episode. I don't know if I should call what happened there a fight, but it was definitely memorable, especially since Mary still technically lost. Cialis Railman posted:I wonder if Cranberry's even a person and not, like, an NPC that found her way into the real world. Considering the very first scene in the series, I'd say she's most likely a real person.
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Apparently I'm the only one who was surprised when the title cards showed that the twins were literally The Wonder Twins??
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Erg posted:Apparently I'm the only one who was surprised when the title cards showed that the twins were literally The Wonder Twins?? Now that you mention it, yeah, that's kind of amazing. At the time I wasn't really processing it because holy poo poo, Calamity Mary I was wondering what the limits were to Alice' regeneration. But now that she's been shown to be essentially immortal, I'm kind of expecting her to get candied out...
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The reveal that the Peaky Angels are college students makes them even more unlikable. Edit: I've read the first chapter-and-a-half of the LN, and apparently Nemurin just dies with no explanation of what her deal is. I'm not sure if there's a flashback later when the get into the stuff with her dream power or if all that is anime-only. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Nov 13, 2016 01:01
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Alright, this may be barely keeping my interest but I've gotta say. Hardgore Alice is really REALLY living up to her name. Also pretty sure more people are dying next week at the rate things are going.
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I actually like the Peaky Angels. Also I hope Ripple doesn't die, I kinda like her after her backstory.
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Demicol posted:I actually like the Peaky Angels. It seems like having a backstory in this show is more or less fatal. Also holy poo poo Calamity Mary still manages to be the best magical 
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Ripple is quite the bad rear end, her fists sound like they hurt.
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This episode was too hardgore for me. Stop the loving death flags already Top Speed. Rubbing it in at the end of the episode makes me assume she dies next week.  Sister Nana continues to be awful though.
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Everyone is gonna die~ [spoilers]...eventually.[/spoilers]
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Everyone is gonna die~ hosed up your spoiler tags
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Desuwa posted:Sister Nana continues to be awful though. Sister Nana is so aggressively, desperately naive, that it keeps bouncing between endearing and pathetic. It doesn't help her that Weiss is enabling her storybook view of the world and their situation. I wonder how she would've reacted if Snow White had told her exactly what happened when Magicaloid died. Adelheid posted:I was wondering what the limits were to Alice' regeneration. But now that she's been shown to be essentially immortal, I'm kind of expecting her to get candied out... At this point, I don't think the magical candies are going to be an issue anymore. Whatever happens to Alice is probably going to involve Snow White, and it's probably going to end up being one of the most significant events in the series.
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Command Ant posted:Sister Nana is so aggressively, desperately naive, that it keeps bouncing between endearing and pathetic. It doesn't help her that Weiss is enabling her storybook view of the world and their situation. I kind of think Sister Nana semi-deliberately cultivates her own naivete, to the point where Weiss's enabling is part of the reason she loves Weiss in the first place. That might be reading too much into it, though.
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alice is still best girl, and as demonstrated always will be. not sure if anyone addressed this yet, but in the OP i'm pretty sure the hand snow white grabs is alice's, what with the shape of the sleeve. someone said before that promo art paired her with top speed, but maybe it's a red herring?
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Welp, I broke down and started reading the novels. I will say that the anime is heavily expanding on the first novel, and the changes are for the better. Pacing is hugely improved.
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Desuwa posted:Welp, I broke down and started reading the novels. I will say that the anime is heavily expanding on the first novel, and the changes are for the better. Pacing is hugely improved. Agreed so far. The anime does a better job of showing instead of telling, and fixes a lot of unnecessary vagueness. For example, the novel posted:Then she went to college, and went top of the class there too. She continued when she was employed at a job. This is all rather abstract, unless the implication is that she quit her job because it involved too much talking to other people. The anime scene where she's fed up with doing Office Lady things and gives her boss unsolicited advice feels more real, in part because it adds specificity. It also makes her somewhat more sympathetic, although the LN implies that Calamity Mary's treatment of Ruler was a lot worse than what we see in the anime, so I suppose it's a wash in that regard.
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I was super sure Top Speed was pregnant since she keeps mentioning six months but now that she revealed her age I'm not sure what her deal is anymore. 
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Overlord K posted:I was super sure Top Speed was pregnant since she keeps mentioning six months but now that she revealed her age I'm not sure what her deal is anymore. Terminally ill is my guess.
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So has this show become the Battle Royal with magic girls that I always wanted it to be yet?
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SweetBro posted:So has this show become the Battle Royal with magic girls that I always wanted it to be yet? Nope! My guess is the other "round" of Magical Girl Battle was set up differently, this time Fav is trying to have them mostly fight one-on-one-pon. The fights are getting increasingly gruesome though, if that sort of thing interests you. And yeah Alice is easily the best girl at this point, holy poo poo.
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Nov 14, 2016 18:13
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Nice to see a fictional character do things thoroughly rather than have their plan fail because of carelessness or arrogance.
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swim swim's plan also looks p on point
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Phobophilia posted:swim swim's plan also looks p on point Ruler would be so proud of her.
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Paracelsus posted:Nice to see a fictional character do things thoroughly rather than have their plan fail because of carelessness or arrogance. Yeah I was pretty shocked/delighted that she went all the way with trying to get rid of HARDGORE
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lol yeah it just keeps going, alright, theres nothing solid left to shoot, time to spread out some damage with acid and fire, also why dont we bury the miasma in sand and dump it in the sea? oh. it's still not enough. alice is brokenly strong, at this rate, the only way to get rid of her is if she runs out of candies on that note, pve-focused snow white is completely out of her depth, she had better step up and start taking initiative before it gets annoying
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goddamn pve carebears pvp4life
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Phobophilia posted:on that note, pve-focused snow white is completely out of her depth, she had better step up and start taking initiative before it gets annoying Hahahahaa, as someone who played EVE this seems on the nose. What other show has this sort of distinction between PvP and PvE and the strengths vs weaknesses of them? I believe SAO had two examples, one in the LN in which Klein's guild had PvP gear which helped them punch up above their weight class; and then Kirito took an otherwise useless PvE weapon and made it broken in PvP. What other shows have this sort of dynamic?
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Well, SW is theoretically quite powerful pvp. Level her power up to telepathy, and you can anticipate attacks or pull off ambushes or even give the edge in close combat. Look how far Cranberry gets with brute force punches and a few distraction spells.
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If we're talking about the powers... I feel like some of the powers are more combat-oriented (Like, how the hell would shuriken be good for helping people? Or a huge sword?) And others are more utility, like Snow White's ability to sense people in trouble. The pair Top speed/ninja girl has the ability to get around fast AND defend itself from other magical girls, while La Pucelle/Snow White has both offense and the ability to get candy super fast. So many girls have powers that are useless for helping people but really good for hurting other magical girls. It doesn't make sense unless the lil mascot guy was planning on them getting in fights from the beginning. Beekeeping and You fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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