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according to novelupdates, us monolingual peasants are still in the 60s for cultivation chat group
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 04:53 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 21:34 |
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Shukaro posted:Candy is doing the thread a priceless service by reading All The WNs and talking about them. couldnt we replace him by just coding a bot that posts "i read $WN_TITLE and it was awful" every so often
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 04:11 |
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i think the "summoned hero" cliche must be a really old one in japanese geek media, i used to see it referenced every so often even before the current glut of trashy light novel and web novel series
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 23:17 |
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Ytlaya posted:^^^ A normal person becoming a hero is a trope in Western culture too, but I'm referring more specifically to adding the "reincarnated from another world" element to the mix. that's what i was talking about too
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 23:20 |
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theres a very old chinese PC game called Heroes of Jin Yong where the main character is a modern day person who was summoned into the world of a jin yong novel as an aside that game's sequel got a remake recently called Tale of Wuxia thats kinda fun and its on Steam
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2017 23:56 |
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Jo Joestar posted:Michael Moorcock's The Eternal Champion was about a man from modern-day earth getting summoned/reincarnated into a fantasy world and becoming a hero, complete with a magic sword. It was published in 1970, though, and I have no idea if it was at all popular in Japan. this post reminded me of another western example of this, The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen R. Donaldson. the first book was published in 1977. the main character is a leper who was abandoned by his wife and child, then one day he gets run down by a car and wakes up in a fantasy world. it doesnt fit the idea of him choosing to be a hero and fighting off the demon lord, though. i think its also always left an open question whether he's just experiencing some kind of death/coma hallucination or dream or if its all real. he does a really bad thing in the beginning of the first book that bummed me out enough that i quit reading the first time i picked up the series as a teenager. ive always been meaning to try to go back to it
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 03:42 |
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Jackard posted:Just finished 1632. You said this is a series? Where is the rest? just google the title + read online. the next book is titled 1633
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 21:53 |
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ironically, i'm reading 1633 now as well and i'm pretty sure it actually takes place in 1634
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 22:17 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:oh my god in ztj chen changsheng finally got out of that grueling extended chase sequence and then immediately ended up in a more or less identical situation i want chen and phoenix girl to find out about each other and start dating already :3 and it took me until now to figure out that the female that Su Li keeps whining internally about is actually probably the secret girl character who's now falling in love with Wolf Guy. for some reason until now i thought he was talking about phoenix girl
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 05:49 |
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i find the pure power fantasy novels to be all in good fun. i enjoy stuff like Everyone Else is a Returnee. the mc is stronger than everyone and every lady falls in love with him. i get turned off when it gets super murdery and rapey though
Law Cheetah fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Mar 11, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 06:46 |
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i am also reading a novel called game market 1983 thats really similar to I’m Really a Superstar, except instead of stealing literary works from our universe to succeed in another world the main character time travels back to 1983 and goes to japan in order to insinuate himself into the fledgling video game industry by stealing game ideas from the future. miyamoto, iwata, and gunpei yokoi are all characters
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 07:02 |
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Ytlaya posted:
i guess thats the biggest difference between us, then. when a relatively innocent power fantasy wears thin, i just get bored and stop reading. i dont find it actively offensive like Re: Monster or Shield Hero can be, or the litany of openly psychopathic murderers you can find in xianxia main characters the only novels where I actively look forward to updates are Way of Choices and World of Cultivation, which arent really power fantasies in the way we're discussing
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 23:27 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:Do any of those end up with the protagonists just constantly struggling and unable to deal with the fact that they're massive frauds and have no ideas of their own? I'm Really a Superstar has a couple of instances where the main character should have gotten in trouble, but the author introduced a way for him to perfectly remember everything he has ever seen or read to get him out of it with game market 1983 the main character is such a naturally talented programmer and businessman, even outside of his idea stealing, that its kind of a mystery to me why he was never successful in his original timeline are there any other series like this? these are the only two I know of. people are talking like theres a lot of them though
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2017 23:26 |
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theres some kinda drama going on in the web novel translating scene right now. translators are leaving the gravitytales site en masse and moving their series over to wuxiaworld or other sites. the readers are all like "whats going on?" and everyone directly involved are being super vague and shifty-eyed. theres some juicy gossip in the offing
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2017 21:36 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:world of cultivation might be good if they decided to actually translate it, but we will never know. just treat it like you're reading an English fantasy or scifi novel if you can't handle a couple dozen neologisms per book then your spec fic power level is too low
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 19:49 |
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like there are actually more of these "reincarnated with superpowers...but with a twist!" stories than there are stories that play the concept straight. It's like a bunch of people keep thinking "wouldn't it be totally unique/hilarious if instead of fighting the demon king (or whatever) someone did ___ instead???" and forget to notice such titles already vastly outnumber the genre they're supposedly subverting. i think this happens with a lot of things. like for a western example the "what if superheros but its grimdark" trend in 90s comics a bunch of stuff comes out reacting to other stuff and then the reactions to the reactions start coming out
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 21:36 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i don't care if it is the most amazing work of fiction ever created, it is still harry potter fan fiction. do you suppose that what we're all doing here is somehow on a higher level than harry potter fanfiction
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 16:16 |
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i watched a few random episodes of the show and the story seems a lot different from the source material. like they took the same characters and relationships and just did something different with them the subs are all up on youtube if anyone is interested, i think the tv station or whatever put it out themselves. its a pretty cheesy production
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 16:43 |
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is it wrong to snuggle otherworld critters in a dungeon?
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 17:39 |
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nielsm posted:I hate the translations "ganbaru" usually bear. Is the "just appearing to make an effort is good enough" some cultural thing? Because that's what it appears like to me, and it feels really unnatural to read that. In English you never proudly proclaim you "will try", to be proud you will do it. "Do. Or do not. There is no try." im not 100% sure what youre getting at but isnt the whole point of yoda saying that to luke that yoda is like delivering some high level wisdom. like luke was saying poo poo that people say all the time and yoda is being this enlightened master showing how it should be. like, the scene wouldnt exist if yoda was just enforcing the status quo. he was teaching luke something to break him out of his complacency. someone intensely saying "i will try" seems really natural to me
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2017 04:46 |
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couldnt you find an actual pro freelancer to translate a chapter for that kind of money?
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 18:10 |
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Law Cheetah posted:couldnt you find an actual pro freelancer to translate a chapter for that kind of money? i was curious about this so i looked it up. the latest chapter of way of choices is 2199 words. according to google a typical rate charged by a translator going from english to chinese would be around $0.10 per word. some are lower and some are higher. so in order to translate the latest chapter of way of choices into chinese it would cost $219.90 obviously, we're not changing from english to chinese but the other way around. but assuming things are roughly commensurate both ways you couldnt hire a professional translator for 150 thank you for reading
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 18:21 |
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i dont know who estelion is
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 18:32 |
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the story seems to be about him using principles of psychology to manipulate people
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2017 20:26 |
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cultivation chat group seems like its back to getting regular updates again and its pretty fun to read
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 02:40 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the ones that take place on earth always wank about how amazing tcm is. it's weird as heck. cultivation chat group has this section at the beginning, when the main character still believes hes reading the online postings of a bunch of chuunibyou, and he writes down a pill recipe they post in the chat group to research it because of how dangerous it is to randomly combine such medicinal ingredients as ginseng and ginger or whatever with each other its funny. later his doctor cousin finds the list and tries to warn him off taking the “risk” of eating a bunch of tcm plants i guess chinese really do buy into this stuff Law Cheetah fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Oct 11, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 04:36 |
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cultivation chat group got “poached” by qidan international a while back. i didnt notice it until a couple days ago when the current fan translator posted the obligatory whine about QI because their chapters officially overtook his. anyway this is just a heads up to other people who like ccg that we’re getting 7 chapters a week now. novelupdates doesnt list a new group until theyve done at least 50 releases
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 02:39 |
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as far as power creep goes, seeing the scale get so big in long xianxia series is kinda funny in a way, they really dont hold back. it reminds me of the Toriko manga. but in the end i think theyd be better served in general by just ending the story at a reasonable chapter number
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2017 03:27 |
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as far as LNs go [all you need is kill] is good and has actually has a Real Translation
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 23:54 |
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no skeleboners for skelebones lol XD
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# ¿ May 10, 2018 17:15 |
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do you guys have any recs for good stories with protags who are kind and good and helpful and these qualities are portrayed in general as a positive thing somewhat like ze tian ji’s Chen Changsheng or cultivation chat group’s Song Shuhang
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# ¿ May 27, 2018 22:43 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 21:34 |
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he should be honored to be giving face to me as part of my legacy. it is the just result of the karma sown between us
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2018 19:17 |