POPEYES BAHAMAS BOWL APPRECIATION STATION (2016 bowl chat)

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C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Qwijib0 posted:

14 posts is a lot to ask, but I'll burn one thanking you for all your effortposts

Whoops, thought it was 40 per page, not 50. My bad. Warm up your scroll wheels!

e - oh for fucks sake

# ? Nov 6, 2016 05:54

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# ? May 3, 2024 18:43

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

Ohio State's gonna jump us and I'm actually fine with that. Nothing about our situation changed this week (run the table and we're in).

# ? Nov 6, 2016 05:56

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
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If Army gets to be bowl eligible, where would they go? Wikipedia doesn't say.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:03

KICK BAMA KICK: Mar 2, 2009

CaptainYesterday posted:

If Army gets to be bowl eligible, where would they go? Wikipedia doesn't say.

Are they the academy that has an automatic tie to ... is it the Military Bowl or the Armed Forces Bowl?

e: looks like they're tied to the Armed Forces but only for 2017? Don't entirely follow this.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:04

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

CaptainYesterday posted:

If Army gets to be bowl eligible, where would they go? Wikipedia doesn't say.

Armed Forces Bowl, I would assume.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:05

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Are they the academy that has an automatic tie to ... is it the Military Bowl or the Armed Forces Bowl?

Navy has the deal with the Armed Forces Bowl.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:05

Qwijib0: Apr 10, 2007; Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?; Fun Shoe

C. Everett Koop posted:

Whoops, thought it was 40 per page, not 50. My bad. Warm up your scroll wheels!

e - oh for fucks sake

I apologize for the error, but good news, just edit this one?

# ? Nov 6, 2016 06:08

drunk leprechaun: May 7, 2007; sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

FizFashizzle posted:

Posting in honor of unc eventually defeating Clemson in the acc championship game.

That's a weird way to spell Virginia Tech.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 15:27

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Week 10 - Texas A&M Probably Shouldn't Have Been Ranked Fourth imo

Legend:
Bold = Eligible
Italics = Projected Eligible
~~Strike = Ineligible~~

ACC

ATLANTIC

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Clemson (6-0, 9-0)            PITT, @WAKE, SC           (8-0, 12-0)
Louisville (6-1, 8-1)         WAKE, @HOU, UK            (7-1, 11-1)
Wake Forest (3-2, 6-3)        @LOU, CLEM, BC            (4-4, 7-5)
Florida State (3-3, 6-3)      BC, @CUSE, UF             (5-3, 9-3)
Syracuse (2-3, 4-5)           NCST, FSU, @PITT          (3-5, 5-7)
NC State (1-4, 4-5)           @CUSE, MIA, @UNC          (1-7, 4-8)
Boston College (1-5, 4-5)     @FSU, UCONN, @WAKE        (1-7, 4-8)

Clemson wins the division with a victory over Pitt or Wake. Louisville still has a shot if Clemson loses out, and so does Wake Forest because winning out while Clemson loses out ties the top three at 6-2, with Deacon having the H2H on both of them. Needless to say I don't think that'll happen, but Clemson has to be worried about Deshaun Watson's shoulder. Cuse can get in from the APR pool with a win over State, and I think the bottom two schools will have new coaches next season.

COASTAL

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North Carolina (5-1, 7-2)     @DUKE, citadel, NCST      (7-1, 10-2)
Virginia Tech (5-1, 7-2)      GT, @ND, UVA              (7-1, 10-2)
Miami (2-3, 5-4)              @UVA, @NCST, DUKE         (5-3, 8-4)
Pitt (2-3, 5-4)               @CLEM, DUKE, CUSE         (4-4, 7-5)
Georgia Tech (2-4, 5-4)       @VT, UVA, @UGA            (3-5, 6-6)
Virginia (1-34, 2-7)          MIA, @GT, @VT             (2-6, 3-9)
Duke (0-5, 3-6)               UNC, @PITT, @MIA          (0-8, 3-9)

UNC leapfrogs VT in the standings but VT still has the H2H win; both have easy paths to the end that a slip-up would be a shock. Miami somehow gets their poo poo together enough to beat Pitt and has three winnable games to somehow squeeze out an 8-4 season. Pitt's got two winnable games to get the one win they need, GT's looking at beating UVA or bust, who're the first ACC team to be bowl-ineligible. Now they might be high enough in the APR pool to get in if they win out, but that's a tall order for the Hoos.

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Notre Dame (3-6)     ARMY, VT, @USC     (4-8)

Notre Dame is now 3-6. I can't wait to put that strike through their name.

ACC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 9: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Florida State, Miami, Wake Forest, Pitt, Georgia Tech

BIG TEN

EAST

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Michigan (6-0, 9-0)           @IOWA, IND, @OSU          (8-1, 11-1)
Ohio State (5-1, 8-1)         @MARY, @MSU, MICH         (8-1, 11-1)
Penn State (5-1, 7-2)         @IND, @RUT, MSU           (8-1, 10-2)
Indiana (3-3, 5-4)            PENN, @MICH, PUR          (4-5, 6-6)
Maryland (2-4, 5-4)           OSU, @NEB, RUT            (3-6, 6-6)
Michigan State (0-6, 2-7)     RUT, OSU, @PENN           (1-8, 3-9)
Rutgers (0-6, 2-7)            @MSU, PENN, @MARY         (0-9, 2-10)

Michigan/Ohio State both demolish their foes so I'm sticking to my Buckeye guns. An Ohio State win does create a clusterfuck situation if Penn State wins out as well, but going through the tiebreakers Penn State dropping two games is enough to eliminate them, at which point it goes to Ohio State off winning the H2H with Michigan. All that's moot if Michigan wins out or Penn State slips up. Indiana's just gotta beat Purdue, same with Maryland and Rutgers. And goddamn Sparty, when you poo poo the bed you poo poo the whole bedroom, if not the whole house. I expected this out of Rutgers but not you.

WEST

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Minnesota (4-2, 7-2)        @NEB, NW, @WIS             (4-5, 7-5)
Wisconsin (4-2, 7-2)        ILL, @PUR, MINN            (7-2, 10-2)
Nebraska (4-2, 7-2)         MINN, MARY, @IOWA          (7-2, 10-2)      
Iowa (3-3, 5-4)             MICH, @ILL, NEB            (4-5, 6-6)
Northwestern (3-3, 4-5)     @PUR, @MINN, ILL           (6-3, 7-5)
Illinois (2-4, 3-6)         @WIS, IOWA, @NW            (2-7, 3-9)
Purdue (1-5, 3-6)           NW, WIS, @IND              (1-8, 3-9)

So Minnesota's on top and technically they could win the West or gum up the whole thing with games against Neb/Wis, but I don't think that's going to happen. Iowa's gotta beat Illinois, Northwestern has to beat them and Purdue.

Big Ten Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Iowa, Maryland, Indiana

Big 12

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Oklahoma (6-0, 7-2)            BAY, @WVU, OKST           (9-0, 10-2)
Oklahoma State (5-1, 7-2)      TTU, @TCU, @OK            (7-2, 9-3)
West Virginia (4-1, 7-1)       @TEX, OK, @ISU, BAY       (7-2, 10-2)
Baylor (3-2, 6-2)              @OK, KSU, TTU, @WVU       (5-4, 8-4)
Kansas State (3-3, 5-4)        @BAY, KU, @TCU            (4-5, 6-6)
TCU (3-3, 5-4)                 OKST, @TEX, KSU           (5-4, 7-5)
Texas (3-3, 5-4)               WVU, @KU, TCU             (4-5, 6-6) 
Texas Tech (2-4, 4-5)          @OKST, @ISU, BAY          (3-6, 5-7)
Iowa State (0-6, 1-8)          @KU, TTU, WVU             (1-8, 2-10)
Kansas (0-6, 1-8)              ISU, TEX, @KSU            (0-9, 1-11)

Oklahoma being so low in the initial polls makes me hesitant to believe they have a shot, and that sole shot would probably being Washington taking an L, beyond someone else taking an upset L in a conference championship game. Texas gets a win at TTU and with Kansas still on the schedule, I've got the Horns taking the Red Raiders spot in the projections, although I wouldn't put it past TTU to beat Baylor at this point. Still don't think that'll be enough to save Charlie's job though. On a side note, gently caress Baylor. gently caress Baylor. gently caress Baylor.

Big 12 Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Baylor, TCU, Kansas State, Texas

PAC-12

NORTH

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Washington (6-0, 9-0)           USC, ASU, @WSU        (9-0, 12-0)
Washington State (6-0, 7-2)     CAL, @COL, WASH       (7-2, 8-4)
Stanford (4-3, 6-3)             @ORE, @CAL, RICE      (5-4, 9-3)
Cal (2-4, 4-5)                  @WSU, STAN, UCLA      (3-6, 5-7)
Oregon (1-5, 3-6)               STAN, @UTAH, @ORST    (2-7, 4-8)
Oregon State (1-5, 2-7)         @UCLA, ARIZ, ORE      (2-7, 2-10)

Washington's got a resurgent USC team this weekend, and if it was in LA I'd be tempted to give the Trojans a fighting chance. Being in Seattle negates that. Wazzu's gotta get past Colorado and hope for another Utah L that'll put them in position to go to the Rose Bowl. Stanford tissue paper soft ending schedule puts them into bowl eligibility. duckhuntassholedog.jpg

SOUTH

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Colorado (5-1, 7-2)          @ARIZ, WSU, UTAH      (6-3, 8-4)
USC (5-2, 6-3)               @WASH, @UCLA, ND      (6-3, 8-4)
Utah (4-2, 7-2)              @ASU, ORE, @COL       (7-2, 10-2)
Arizona State (2-4, 5-4)     UTAH, @WASH, @ARIZ    (3-6, 6-6)
UCLA (1-5, 3-6)              ORST, USC, @CAL       (3-6, 5-7)
Arizona (0-6, 2-7)           COL, @ORST, ASU       (1-8, 3-9)

Three teams with a legitimate shot at winning the South, though USC needs lots of help. UCLA's all but done, ASU needs to beat Zona, who's probably thinking if RichRod's the guy for the future there.

Pac-12 Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Washington, Utah, Stanford, USC, Washington State, Colorado, Arizona State

SEC

EAST

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Florida (4-2, 6-2)            SC, @LSU, @FSU         (5-3, 7-4)
Kentucky (4-3, 5-4)           @TENN, peay, @LOU      (4-4, 6-6)
Georgia (3-4, 5-4)            AUB, ULL, GT           (3-5, 7-5)
South Carolina (3-4, 5-4)     @UF, wcu, @CLEM        (3-5, 6-6)
Tennessee (2-3, 6-3)          UK, MIZZ, @VAN         (5-3, 9-3)
Vanderbilt (1-4, 4-5)         @MIZZ, MISS, TENN      (2-6, 5-7)
Missouri (0-5, 2-7)           VAN, @TENN, ARK        (1-7, 3-9)

Jesus H. Dickshitting Christ the East is loving terrible. Florida loses to bert and now runs the risk of giving up the division to Tennessee after all, if the Gators lose at LSU and Tennessee wins out, as the Vols have the H2H. The East is so loving bad we were one FG away from Kentucky, loving Kentucky, leading the SEC East in November. Good loving god. Replace this whole division with teams from the 'Murica, or maybe C-USA I dunno.

WEST

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Alabama (6-0, 9-0)               MSST, chat, AUB          (8-0, 12-0)
Auburn (5-1, 7-2)                @UGA, bama a&m, @BAMA    (6-2, 9-3)
Texas A&M (4-2, 7-2)             MISS, UTSA, LSU          (6-2, 10-2)
LSU (3-2, 5-3)                   @ARK, UF, @A&M           (5-3, 7-4)
Arkansas (2-3, 6-3)              LSU, @MSST, @MIZZ        (2-6, 6-6)
Ole Miss (1-4, 4-5)              @A&M, VAN, MSST          (3-5, 6-6)
Mississippi State (2-3, 4-5)     @BAMA, ARK, @MISS        (3-5, 5-7)

Bama crushes LSU's hopes right on schedule. A&M proves the internet right in falling at CLANGA, and now the real issue is Trevor Knight's shoulder, with the LSU game looming at the end of the season. Egg Bowl looks like it's going to be a bowl eliminator, and fine bert's bowl eligible again beep beep all aboard to Shreveport.

SEC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 11: Alabama, Texas A&M, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Ole Miss, Kentucky, South Carolina, Arkansas

AMERICAN

EAST

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Temple (5-1, 7-3)            @TULANE, ECU             (7-1, 9-3)
South Florida (4-1, 7-2)     @MEM, @SMU, UCF          (6-2, 9-3)
UCF (3-2, 5-4)               CIN, TULSA, @USF         (5-3, 7-5)
Cincinnati (1-4, 4-5)        @UCF, MEM, @TULSA        (1-7, 4-8)
East Carolina (1-4, 3-6)     @TULSA, SMU, @TEMPLE     (1-7, 3-9)
UConn (1-6, 3-7)             @BC, TULANE              (3-5, 5-7)

Temple ascends to the top of the East and just needs to win out over two lousy teams to clinch. UCF's got two reasonable shots to get the one they need, and I'm wondering if Tubbs already has an exit plan from Cincy, because if he doesn't he's gonna be taking the window instead of the stairs here in a little bit. Technically UConn's out but two wins gives them a shot at coming out of the APR pool.

WEST

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Tulsa (4-1, 7-2)       @NAVY, @UCF, CIN           (4-4, 8-4)
Navy (4-1, 6-2)        TULSA, @ECU, @SMU, ARMY    (7-1, 10-2)
Houston (4-2, 7-2)     TULANE, LOU, @MEM          (5-3, 8-4)
Memphis (3-2, 6-3)     USF, @CIN, HOU             (6-2, 9-3)
SMU (2-3, 4-5)         @ECU, USF, NAVY            (3-5, 5-7)
Tulane (0-5, 3-6)      @HOU, TEMPLE, @UCONN       (0-8, 3-9)

Wait who the hell let Tulsa go on top of this division? I don't think they'll stay there but still. Navy's bowl eligible and headed to the Armed Forces bowl, barring a miracle rise to the Cotton. I don't think SMU's got a shot in the APR pool but they're making process down in Dallas.

American Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Navy, Temple, South Florida, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, UCF

C-USA

EAST

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Western Kentucky (5-1, 7-3)   UNT, @MAR           (7-1, 9-3)
Old Dominion (4-1, 6-3)       USM, @FAU, FIU      (6-2, 8-4)
Middle Tennessee (3-2, 6-3)   @MAR, @CHA, FAU     (6-2, 9-3)
Charlotte (3-2, 4-5)          RICE, MTSU, @UTSA   (4-4, 5-7)
FIU (3-3, 3-7)                MAR, @ODU           (4-4, 4-8)
Marshall (1-4, 2-7)           MTSU, @FIU, WKU     (1-7, 2-10)
FAU (1-4, 2-7)                UTEP, ODU, @MTSU    (1-7, 2-10)

WKU's now two very winnable games from claiming the East again. ODU's in and watch out for Charlotte, one win over Rice from going into the APR pool and another upset from getting in straight up. FIU and Marshall get tossed.

WEST

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Louisiana Tech (5-1, 7-3)   UTSA, @USM            (6-2, 8-4)
UTSA (4-2, 5-4)             @LATECH, @A&M, CHA    (5-3, 6-6)
Southern Miss (3-2, 5-4)    @ODU, @UNT, LATECH    (6-2, 8-4)
North Texas (2-3, 4-5)      @WKU, USM, @UTEP      (3-5, 5-7)
UTEP (1-4, 3-6)             @FAU, @RICE, UNT      (2-6, 4-8)
Rice (0-6, 1-8)             @CHA, UTEP, @STAN     (0-8, 1-11)

This division is a mess with Southern Miss taking an unexpected L. UTSA is still in the mix, they've got the H2H on USM. Rice loses the Fail Bowl against FAU and are in good position to get the #1 pick in the upcoming draft.

C-USA Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Old Dominion, UTSA

INDEPENDENTS

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BYU (5-4)     soutah, UMASS, UTAHST  (8-4)
Army (5-4)    ND, morganst, NAVY     (6-6)
UMass (2-8)   @BYU, @HAW             (2-10)

BYU's all but in, three winnable games to get the one they need. A win over Morgan State moves Army to 6-6, but they'll come out of the APR pool due to two wins over FCS teams (so let's root for Army to beat Notre Dame and make the whole thing moot.)

Independent Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 1: BYU

MAC

EAST

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Ohio (5-1, 7-3)            @CMU, AKRON          (7-1, 9-3)
Miami Ohio (4-2, 4-6)      @BUFF, BALL          (6-2, 6-6)
Akron (3-3, 5-5)           BG, @OHIO            (4-4, 6-6)
Kent State (2-3, 3-6)      WMU, @BG, NIU        (2-6, 3-9)
Buffalo (1-4, 2-7)         MOH, @WMU, @BG       (2-6, 3-9)
Bowling Green (0-5, 1-8)   @AKRON, KENT, BUFF   (0-8, 1-11)

Ohio's in firm control over the division with a magic number of one. But I want to give a major shout-out to Miami Ohio, who're absolutely on fire right now having won their last four after starting 0-6, and with two winnable games gently caress it, I'm all in on the Redhawks. From 0-6 to 6-6 and bowl eligible, let's loving go!

WEST

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Western Michigan (5-0, 9-0)    @KENT, BUFF, TOL    (8-0, 12-0)
Toledo (4-1, 7-2)              NIU, BALL, @WMU     (6-2, 9-3)
Northern Illinois (3-2, 3-6)   TOL, @EMU, @KENT    (4-4, 4-8)
Eastern Michigan (2-3, 5-4)    @BALL, NIU, CMU     (4-4, 7-5)
Central Michigan (2-4, 5-5)    OHIO, @EMU          (2-6, 5-7)
Ball State (1-4, 4-5)          EMU, @TOL, @MOH     (2-6, 5-7)

Boatrowers now four games from making history. Toledo will give them a game in the end though. And MAC giveth MAC taketh away, as hot as Miami's been CMU's been cold, and unless they find an upset somewhere they'll have to come out of the APR pool.

MAC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Western Michigan, Toledo, Ohio, Eastern Michigan, Akron, Miami Ohio

MOUNTAIN WEST

MOUNTAIN

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Wyoming (5-0, 7-2)          @UNLV, SDSU, @NM     (7-1, 9-3)
Boise State (4-1, 8-1)      @HAW, UNLV, @AF      (7-1, 11-1)
New Mexico (4-1, 6-3)       @UTAHST, @CSU, WYO   (5-3, 7-5)
Colorado State (3-2, 5-4)   @AF, NM, SDSU        (4-4, 6-6)
Air Force (2-3, 6-3)        CSU, @SJST, BOISE    (5-3, 8-4)
Utah State (1-5, 3-6)       NM, @NEV, @BYU       (1-7, 3-9)

Wyoming doesn't need to win out, meaning the San Diego State game isn't completely critical, but they can't take two L's since it's hard to see Boise dropping another one. New Mexico and Air Force are in, Colorado State needs just one more but that's not an easy closing stretch by any means. Only Utah State is dead to rights, and they're a couple upsets away from sending the whole division bowling.

WEST

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San Diego State (5-0, 8-1)   @NEV, @WYO, CSU         (8-0, 11-1)
Hawai'i (3-3, 4-6)           BOISE, @FRESNO, UMASS   (4-4, 6-7)
UNLV (2-3, 3-6)              WYO, @BOISE, NEV        (2-6, 3-9)
San Jose State (2-4, 3-7)    AF, @FRESNO             (3-5, 4-8)
Nevada (1-4, 3-6)            SDSU, UTAHST, @UNLV     (3-5, 5-7)
Fresno State (0-6, 1-9)      HAW, SJST               (0-8, 1-11)

SDSU keeps on pace. Hawai'i's gotta get both Fresno and UMass to make it in. Everyone else is varying degrees of lousy.

MWC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: San Diego State, Boise State, Wyoming, Air Force, New Mexico, Colorado State, Hawai'i

SUN BELT

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App State (5-0, 7-2)             @TROY, ULM, @NMST           (8-0, 10-2)
Troy (4-0, 7-1)                  APP, ARKST, @TXST, @GSO     (6-2, 10-2)
Arkansas State (4-0, 4-4)        NMSU, @TROY, @ULL, @TXST    (7-1, 7-5)
Idaho (3-2, 5-4)                 @TXST, USA, GSU             (6-2, 8-4)
Georgia Southern (3-2, 4-5)      ULL, GSU, TROY              (5-3, 6-6)
Louisiana-Lafayette (2-3, 3-5)   GSO, @UGA, ARKST, @ULM      (2-6, 3-9)
Louisiana-Monroe (2-3, 3-6)      @GSU, @APP, ULL             (4-4, 5-7)
New Mexico State (1-3, 2-6)      @ARKST, TXST, APP, @USA     (2-6, 3-9)
Georgia State (1-4, 2-7)         ULM, GSO, @IDAHO            (1-7, 2-10)
South Alabama (1-5, 4-5)         pres, @IDAHO, NMSU          (2-6, 6-6)
Texas State (0-4, 2-6)           IDAHO, @NMSU, TROY, ARKST   (0-8, 2-10)

A win at Troy all but gives App a share of the Fun Belt, whereas a Troy win opens the door for the Trojans and Red Wolves, who have a chance to win out and claim a split division title with the Mountaineers. Idaho might legit go 8-4 and see if they can put the brakes on this whole dropping to FCS thing. See ya South Alabama (edit - they've scheduled Presbyterian to make up for their game against LSU being cancelled, but they won't be able to count the win since they've already got an FCS win over Nicholls.)

Sun Belt Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 5: App State, Troy, Idaho, Arkansas State, Georgia Southern

Current Bowl Eligible Teams: 46
Number of Projected Bowl Eligible Teams: 76, two more than last week!

College Football Playoff

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Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Clemson (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Ohio State (Big Ten Champ)

Not moving anyone here; now if Michigan runs the table they've got a chance at jumping to number two or one. Two means nothing but a chance of laundry, one changes everything and possibly lines them up with Washington, while lining up an Alabama/Clemson rematch in what would probably be the Fiesta at that point.

New Year's Bowls

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Sugar Bowl    Jan. 2   	New Orleans, La.   Big 12 vs SEC	    Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. Texas A&M (SEC Rep)
Rose Bowl     Jan. 2   	Pasadena, Calif.   Big Ten vs Pac-12	    Michigan (Big Ten Rep) vs. Utah (Pac-12 Rep)
Cotton Bowl   Jan. 2   	Arlington, Tex.    Group of 5 vs. At-large  Western Michigan (Group of 5 Rep) vs. Penn State (At-Large)
Orange Bowl   Dec. 30   Miami, Fla.	   ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC/ND   Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. Wisconsin (Big Ten Rep)

Only change here is moving Penn State into the At-Large spot in the Cotton Bowl; they're currently ranked 12th and don't look like they'll have another L on their schedule. Despite the loss, A&M remains the SEC's rep in the Sugar Bowl since Auburn's still has to face/lose to Alabama and no one from the SEC East deserves to go to any bowl, much less a major one.

And the rest:

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Outback Bowl	        Jan. 2	  Tampa, Fla.	         B1G vs. SEC        	Nebraska vs. Florida
TaxSlayer Bowl	        Dec. 31   Jacksonville, Fla.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	North Carolina vs. LSU
Citrus Bowl	        Dec. 31	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Virginia Tech vs. Auburn
Arizona Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Tucson, Ariz.	         CUSA vs. MWC       	UTSA vs. Boise State
Music City Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Nashville, Tenn.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Iowa vs. Tennessee
Sun Bowl	        Dec. 30	  El Paso, Tex.	         ACC vs. P12        	Pitt vs. Colorado
Liberty Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Memphis, Tenn.	 B12 vs. SEC        	TCU vs. Georgia
Alamo Bowl	        Dec. 29	  San Antonio, Tex.	 B12 vs. P12        	Oklahoma State vs. USC
Belk Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Charlotte, N.C.	 ACC vs. SEC        	Wake Forest vs. South Carolina
Birmingham Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Birmingham, Ala.	 AAC vs. SEC            South Florida vs. Kentucky
Texas Bowl	        Dec. 28	  Houston, Tex.	         B12 vs. SEC        	Baylor vs. Ole Miss
Foster Farms Bowl	Dec. 28	  Santa Clara, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Northwestern vs. Washington State
Russell Athletic Bowl	Dec. 28	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC vs. B12        	Florida State vs. West Virginia
Pinstripe Bowl	        Dec. 28	  New York, N.Y.	 ACC vs. B1G        	Miami vs. Maryland
Cactus Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Tempe, Ariz.	         B12 vs. P12            Kansas State vs. New Mexico
Holiday Bowl	        Dec. 27	  San Diego, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Minnesota vs. Stanford
Military Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Annapolis, Md.	 ACC vs. AAC         	Georgia Tech vs. Temple
Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dec. 27	  Dallas, Tex.	         B1G vs. CUSA           Vanderbilt* vs. Western Kentucky
Independence Bowl	Dec. 26	  Shreveport, La.	 SEC vs. ACC            Arkansas vs. Louisiana Tech
Quick Lane Bowl	        Dec. 26	  Detroit, Mich.	 ACC vs. B1G            Syracuse* vs. Indiana
St. Petersburg Bowl	Dec. 26	  St. Petersburg, Fla.   AAC vs ACC         	Memphis vs. Middle Tennessee
Hawai'i Bowl	        Dec. 24	  Honolulu, Hawaii	 CUSA vs. MWC      	Idaho vs. Hawai'i
Dollar General Bowl	Dec. 23	  Mobile, Ala.	         MAC vs. SB	        Ohio vs. Troy
Armed Forces Bowl	Dec. 23	  Fort Worth, Tex.	 B12 vs. Navy           Texas vs. Navy
Bahamas Bowl	        Dec. 23	  Nassau, Bahamas	 CUSA vs. MAC       	North Texas* vs. Miami Ohio
Idaho Potato Bowl	Dec. 22	  Boise, Idaho	         MAC vs. MWC            Eastern Michigan vs. Wyoming
Poinsettia Bowl	        Dec. 21	  San Diego, Calif.	 MWC vs. BYU       	Air Force vs. BYU
Boca Raton Bowl	        Dec. 20	  Boca Raton, Fla.	 AAC vs. CUSA           Tulsa vs. Toledo
Miami Beach Bowl	Dec. 19	  Miami, Fla.	         AAC vs. MAC            Houston vs. Southern Miss
New Orleans Bowl	Dec. 17	  New Orleans, La.	 MWC vs. SB         	Army* vs. App State
Cure Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Orlando, Fla.	         AAC vs. SB             UCF vs. Georgia Southern
Camellia Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Montgomery, Ala.	 MAC vs. SB         	Akron vs. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Las Vegas, Nev.	 MWC vs. P12            San Diego State vs. Arizona State
New Mexico Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Albuquerque, N.M.	 CUSA vs. MWC           Old Dominion vs. Colorado State

We only need four out of the APR pool. Vanderbilt, Army, North Texas, and Syracuse all get pulled up, and I resist the urge to send Army invading overseas for shits and giggles. Navy's locked into the Armed Forces Bowl, and them facing Texas becomes real interesting, regardless of who's coaching Texas at the time. And no better way to bid Idaho bon voyage than with a trip to Hawai'i.

This is still wrong. It will always be wrong. We'll just have to see how wrong it is.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Nov 7, 2016

# ? Nov 6, 2016 21:38

KICK BAMA KICK: Mar 2, 2009

You've still got USA with @LSU on their schedule; that's the one that got cancelled to make up LSU-Florida. They're playing Presbyterian that day, who was correspondingly dumped by Florida. On phone so can't scroll up to see if that's fixed on Florida's schedule.

Dunno if that makes a difference for the Jags' chances. I assume they'd be favored there but I wasn't sure about finding a sixth in the other two (or are they already counting an FCS win leaving the Prezbos meaningless?)

# ? Nov 6, 2016 21:58

Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

The Foster Farms Bowl sounds about right (aka lovely) for Northwestern this year. Pouring one out for the dearly departed Papajohns.com Bowl and Beef O'Brady's Bowl.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 22:07

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

C. Everett Koop posted:

And no better way to bid Idaho bon voyage than with a trip to Hawai'i.

Idaho gets one last lap next year, of course who knows if they'll actually get 6 wins. Yeah, bon voyage

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Nov 7, 2016

# ? Nov 6, 2016 22:42

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

You've still got USA with @LSU on their schedule; that's the one that got cancelled to make up LSU-Florida. They're playing Presbyterian that day, who was correspondingly dumped by Florida. On phone so can't scroll up to see if that's fixed on Florida's schedule.

Dunno if that makes a difference for the Jags' chances. I assume they'd be favored there but I wasn't sure about finding a sixth in the other two (or are they already counting an FCS win leaving the Prezbos meaningless?)

Good catch, that had slipped by me, though I should have it fixed with the SEC teams.

As for the Jags, they've already got an FCS win (Nicholls) so they won't be able to count the one against the Hoes. They could go from the APR pool but we'd have to go down a bit, I don't recall where South Alabama was there other than not at the very top.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 00:20

chaoslord: Jan 28, 2009; Nature Abhors A Vacuum

C. Everett Koop posted:

and fine bert's bowl eligible again beep beep all aboard to Shreveport.

Arky will beat Mizzou and probably Clanga, most likely will be going to Charlotte in the Belk Bowl. I'd rather not have a 14 hour drive, but with us having been to Houston and Memphis recently I doubt we will go back to them. I hope I am wrong and we end up in Nashville.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 02:05

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

chaoslord posted:

Arky will beat Mizzou and probably Clanga, most likely will be going to Charlotte in the Belk Bowl. I'd rather not have a 14 hour drive, but with us having been to Houston and Memphis recently I doubt we will go back to them. I hope I am wrong and we end up in Nashville.

I doubt they'll go Belking, since that seems like South Carolina's destination if they go bowling (and to try and offset what would probably be weak attendance on the Wake side). Winning out and going 9-3 might be good enough to get one of the marquee bowls against Big Ten teams, maybe 8-4 gets you to Nashville. But I think the real ceiling is probably the Texas Bowl, even though they were just there a year ago, and getting an Arkansas/Texas rematch would be interesting, if not outright hilarious. Liberty's probably out, and you'd hope to not get bumped down into Birmingham/Shreveport land but you gotta take what you can get at that point.

It's also not inconceivable that the SEC sends everyone but Mizzou bowling. Ole Miss (somehow) beats A&M and Vandy, CLANGA beats bert and Ole Miss, LSU beats bert or Gator, Kentucky beats Austin Peay, Georgia beats ULL/GT, SC beats Western Carolina, and Vandy beats Mizzou/gets in from the APR pool. I doubt that'll happen, especially since Chad Kelly's out for the year now, but it "could" happen.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 02:41

ur in my world now: Jun 5, 2006; ^{Same as it ever was}
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Mizzou isn't winning another game this year so yeah, Vandy's going bowling.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 05:41

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Another round of RNG moon poll madness, this time much chalkier -

pre:

Conference Winners - 

ACC - Clemson (13-0) over Virginia Tech (8-5) - No change.

Big 10 - Ohio State (13-0) over Wisconsin (10-3) - Ohio State beats Michigan in a virtual playoff game.  Wisconsin uses the relatively clear path to their advantage to win out.

Big 12 - West Virginia (11-1) - West Virginia wins out but the loss to 4-loss Oklahoma State leaves them just short in the chase for #4.

Pac 12 - Washington (13-0) over Colorado (10-3) - No upset for Colorado this time.

SEC - Alabama (13-0) over Florida (7-6) - The SEC East devolves into Operation 4-4 where a five-way tie for second develops at 4-4.  Florida at 5-3 stands out just enough to run into Lord Saban.



AAC - Temple (10-3) over Houston (9-4) - Navy falls apart and Houston recovers just in time to see Tom Herman take that Texas job.  

CUSA - Western Kentucky (10-3) over Louisiana Tech (9-4) - AKA, the usual outcome in Conference USA.

MAC - Western Michigan (13-0) over Ohio (8-5) - The Akron loss now puts Ohio in front of the boat.

MWC - San Diego State (10-3) over Wyoming (9-4) - No change.

SunBelt - Appalachian State (10-2) - No change.

*************************************

Playoffs - 

#1 Alabama (13-0)
#2 Clemson (13-0)
#3 Washington (13-0)
#4 Ohio State (12-1)

First four out: Michigan (11-1), West Virginia (11-1), Louisville (10-2), Penn State (11-1)

*************************************

NY6 Bowls - 

Orange		Virginia Tech		Penn State
Cotton		Western Michigan	Louisville
Rose		Michigan		Colorado
Sugar		West Virginia		Texas A&M

*************************************

Mere Mortal Bowls - 

Alamo		Oklahoma		USC
Arizona		Utah State		Idaho
Armed Forces	Navy			TCU
Bahamas		UCF			Central Michigan
Belk		Florida State		South Carolina
Birmingham	Houston			Kentucky
Boca Raton	Memphis			Louisiana Tech
Cactus		Kansas State		Arizona State
Camellia	Akron			Georgia Southern
Citrus		Wisconsin		Auburn
Cure		Colorado State*		Northwestern+
Foster Farms	Stanford		Army*
Dollar General	Miami (OH)		Troy
Hawaii		Western Kentucky	Hawaii
Heart of Dallas	Middle Tennessee	Air Force*
Holiday		Minnesota		Washington State
Independence	Pittsburgh		Georgia
Las Vegas	San Diego State		Oregon
Liberty		Baylor			Vanderbilt
Miami Beach	Tulsa			Toledo
Military	Temple			Old Dominion*
Music City	Iowa			Florida
New Mexico	UTSA			New Mexico
New Orleans	Southern Miss		Appalachian State
Outback		Nebraska		LSU
Pinstripe	Georgia Tech		Maryland
Poinsettia	Wyoming			BYU
Potato		Ohio U			Boise State
QuickLane	Eastern Michigan*	UTEP*
Russell Ath	North Carolina		Oklahoma State
St. Petersburg	South Florida		Indiana+
Sun		Wake Forest		Utah
TaxSlayer	Miami (FL)		Tennessee
Texas		Texas			Arkansas

* denotes non-slotted teams
+ Northwestern and Indiana are 5-7 and in via APR.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 21:13

Yoshifan823: Feb 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

So, I look at two different bowl predictions in this thread, and both have 6-6 Iowa against SEC teams much, much better than them, even if they are from the East.

# ? Nov 7, 2016 22:06

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

I would be very excited about that Orange Bowl

# ? Nov 8, 2016 01:28

Dr_Strangelove: Dec 16, 2003; Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

I'm gonna be in Las Vegas the weekend of Dec. 17. If Wyoming is in the Las Vegas Bowl, I am totally going.

gonna get liquored up and abuse the opposing fans

# ? Nov 8, 2016 01:39

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Dr_Strangelove posted:

I'm gonna be in Las Vegas the weekend of Dec. 17. If Wyoming is in the Las Vegas Bowl, I am totally going.

gonna get liquored up and abuse the opposing fans

You should do that regardless of who's playing in the game.

# ? Nov 8, 2016 02:38

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Bowls if the Playoff started today:

pre:

Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Clemson (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Michigan (Big Ten Champ)

Washington replaces Texas A&M as the sacrificial lamb to be fed to Alabama.

pre:

Sugar Bowl    Jan. 2   	New Orleans, La.   Big 12 vs SEC	    Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. Texas A&M (SEC Rep)
Rose Bowl     Jan. 2   	Pasadena, Calif.   Big Ten vs Pac-12	    Michigan (Big Ten Rep) vs. Colorado (Pac-12 Rep)
Cotton Bowl   Jan. 2   	Arlington, Tex.    Group of 5 vs. At-large  Western Michigan (Group of 5 Rep) vs. Auburn (At-Large)
Orange Bowl   Dec. 30   Miami, Fla.	   ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC/ND   Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. Wisconsin (Big Ten Rep)

Colorado takes the Rose Bowl spot over Utah via their current higher ranking. Auburn at #9 jumps #10 Penn State for the Cotton Bowl bid.

pre:

Outback Bowl	        Jan. 2	  Tampa, Fla.	         B1G vs. SEC        	Penn State vs. LSU
TaxSlayer Bowl	        Dec. 31   Jacksonville, Fla.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	North Carolina vs. Florida
Citrus Bowl	        Dec. 31	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee
Arizona Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Tucson, Ariz.	         CUSA vs. MWC       	Southern Miss vs. New Mexico
Music City Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Nashville, Tenn.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Minnesota vs. Kentucky
Sun Bowl	        Dec. 30	  El Paso, Tex.	         ACC vs. P12        	Pitt vs. Arizona State
Liberty Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Memphis, Tenn.	 B12 vs. SEC        	TCU vs. Georgia
Alamo Bowl	        Dec. 29	  San Antonio, Tex.	 B12 vs. P12        	Oklahoma State vs. Utah
Belk Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Charlotte, N.C.	 ACC vs. SEC        	Wake Forest vs. South Carolina
Birmingham Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Birmingham, Ala.	 AAC vs. SEC            South Florida vs. Arkansas
Texas Bowl	        Dec. 28	  Houston, Tex.	         B12 vs. SEC        	Baylor vs. Ole Miss
Foster Farms Bowl	Dec. 28	  Santa Clara, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Iowa vs. USC
Russell Athletic Bowl	Dec. 28	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC vs. B12        	Florida State vs. West Virginia
Pinstripe Bowl	        Dec. 28	  New York, N.Y.	 ACC vs. B1G        	Miami vs. Northwestern
Cactus Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Tempe, Ariz.	         B12 vs. P12            Kansas State vs. Colorado State
Holiday Bowl	        Dec. 27	  San Diego, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	 Nebraska vs. Stanford
Military Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Annapolis, Md.	 ACC vs. AAC         	Georgia Tech vs. Memphis
Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dec. 27	  Dallas, Tex.	         B1G vs. CUSA            Maryland vs. Western Kentucky
Independence Bowl	Dec. 26	  Shreveport, La.	 SEC vs. ACC             Vanderbilt* vs. Syracuse*
Quick Lane Bowl	        Dec. 26	  Detroit, Mich.	 ACC vs. B1G            Idaho vs. Indiana
St. Petersburg Bowl	Dec. 26	  St. Petersburg, Fla.   AAC vs ACC         	Temple vs. Army*
Hawai'i Bowl	        Dec. 24	  Honolulu, Hawaii	 CUSA vs. MWC      	Louisiana Tech vs. Hawai'i
Dollar General Bowl	Dec. 23	  Mobile, Ala.	         MAC vs. SB	        Toledo vs. Troy
Armed Forces Bowl	Dec. 23	  Fort Worth, Tex.	 B12 vs. Navy           Texas vs. Navy
Bahamas Bowl	        Dec. 23	  Nassau, Bahamas	 CUSA vs. MAC       	Old Dominion vs. Miami Ohio
Idaho Potato Bowl	Dec. 22	  Boise, Idaho	         MAC vs. MWC            Eastern Michigan vs. Wyoming
Poinsettia Bowl	        Dec. 21	  San Diego, Calif.	 MWC vs. BYU       	Air Force vs. BYU
Boca Raton Bowl	        Dec. 20	  Boca Raton, Fla.	 AAC vs. CUSA           Tulsa vs. Ohio
Miami Beach Bowl	Dec. 19	  Miami, Fla.	         AAC vs. MAC            Houston vs. North Texas*
New Orleans Bowl	Dec. 17	  New Orleans, La.	 MWC vs. SB        UTSA vs. App State
Cure Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Orlando, Fla.	         AAC vs. SB             UCF vs. Georgia State
Camellia Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Montgomery, Ala.	 MAC vs. SB         	Akron vs. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Las Vegas, Nev.	 MWC vs. P12            San Diego State vs. Washington State
New Mexico Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Albuquerque, N.M.	 CUSA vs. MWC           Middle Tennessee vs. Boise State

There's never a ton of changes here, just what dominoes fall from the shifting up top. Took me a while to fill this out tonight, I'll let y'all guess why.

# ? Nov 9, 2016 05:45

Dr_Strangelove: Dec 16, 2003; Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

C. Everett Koop posted:

You should do that regardless of who's playing in the game.

I was there last year, but BYU-Utah was sold out by the time I got there. I met some Utah fans on the bus to the rental car center; when I told them I'm a U-Dub alumnus, they said, "Your fans are mean."

# ? Nov 10, 2016 15:24

Zero One: Dec 30, 2004; HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Assuming that Michigan has to settle for the Rose Bowl a rematch with Colorado seems pretty anticlimactic.

# ? Nov 11, 2016 20:48

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Zero One posted:

Assuming that Michigan has to settle for the Rose Bowl a rematch with Colorado seems pretty anticlimactic.

It's basically three options: Utah or Colorado are the most likely, depending on who comes out of the South. Washington State's not out of the picture, but they'd probably have to win the Apple Cup, which would then give them the North, but losing the Pac-12 championship to Utah/Colorado. Said scenario would also put Washington in there as well, but that would involve a Pac-12 school not the Huskies making the playoff and I don't think I'd bet on that.

Realistically, if Michigan loses to Ohio State, I'd expect to face Utah in the Rose.

# ? Nov 12, 2016 01:30

Tank44: Jun 13, 2005; We want the ball & We're going to score

C. Everett Koop posted:

It's basically three options: Utah or Colorado are the most likely, depending on who comes out of the South. Washington State's not out of the picture, but they'd probably have to win the Apple Cup, which would then give them the North, but losing the Pac-12 championship to Utah/Colorado. Said scenario would also put Washington in there as well, but that would involve a Pac-12 school not the Huskies making the playoff and I don't think I'd bet on that.

Realistically, if Michigan loses to Ohio State, I'd expect to face Utah in the Rose.

If UW wins out, they are likely in the CFP. If they lose the Apple Cup or CCG, then the CCG winner will be in the Rose Bowl regardless and UW should likely head to Cotton Bowl with only the 1 loss.

If UW does win out, the Pac12 representative in Rose Bowl is complicated since good chance 2nd best team will have 3 losses and could be all or only 1 of Utah, Colorado or Wazzu assuming UW wins out. Colorado plays Wazzu and Utah in the last 2 weeks and then there's the CCG loss for either Colorado or Utah.
* If Wazzu wins vs Colorado & loses to UW, they're 9-3. Col would be 8-4 if they lose to WSU and beat UT and lose the CCG, or Utah would also be 10-3 by winning out and losing CCG. The Rose choice then is with Wazzu or Utah. Stanford winning out is also at 9-3.
*If Colorado beats Wazzu, then CO-UT winner is 10-3 with CCG loss and the loser would be 9-3 with Stanford & Wazzu would be 8-4. Makes sense for there CCG loser to Rose here. Then there is the possible rematch between Colorado & Michigan which could push Stanford in.

# ? Nov 12, 2016 03:45

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Tank44 posted:

If UW wins out, they are likely in the CFP. If they lose the Apple Cup or CCG, then the CCG winner will be in the Rose Bowl regardless and UW should likely head to Cotton Bowl with only the 1 loss.

If UW does win out, the Pac12 representative in Rose Bowl is complicated since good chance 2nd best team will have 3 losses and could be all or only 1 of Utah, Colorado or Wazzu assuming UW wins out. Colorado plays Wazzu and Utah in the last 2 weeks and then there's the CCG loss for either Colorado or Utah.
* If Wazzu wins vs Colorado & loses to UW, they're 9-3. Col would be 8-4 if they lose to WSU and beat UT and lose the CCG, or Utah would also be 10-3 by winning out and losing CCG. The Rose choice then is with Wazzu or Utah. Stanford winning out is also at 9-3.
*If Colorado beats Wazzu, then CO-UT winner is 10-3 with CCG loss and the loser would be 9-3 with Stanford & Wazzu would be 8-4. Makes sense for there CCG loser to Rose here. Then there is the possible rematch between Colorado & Michigan which could push Stanford in.

*13-0 Washington is in the Playoff. There's no scenario where an undefeated conference champ gets left out this year with everyone in the Big 12 having taken an L.
*You also have to take into account where the teams are in the current rankings. Colorado is 12, Utah 15 and Wazzu 23. That the Buffs play the other two gives them an opportunity to either fall behind or cement themselves, and possibly backdoor into the Playoff if they beat both and Washington, since three wins over Top 25 teams in the last four weeks to go with a conference championship will look real strong in the eyes of the committee.
*Whoever wins between Colorado and Utah is going to be the South champ, barring a collapse by both. They'll also likely be in the 8-12 range, especially if they finish at 10-2. Losing a reasonably close game to Washington won't hurt them too badly, and the Committee has shown a great emphasis on head-to-head meetings.
*Basically, I think whoever wins between Colorado and Utah will win the South, and accordingly will go to the Rose Bowl win or lose against Washington. The only way that changes is if Wazzu beats Washington and wins the North, at which point they automatically go if they win the Pac-12 CG since they won't get into the Playoff. The one X factor I can think of is if Colorado wins out, winning the Pac-12, but Wazzu wins the North by beating Washington. You've now got a Wazzu team that beat #4 Washington, but lost twice to Colorado in-between, who's now possibly in the Playoff themselves. In that case it's hard to see an 11-1 Washington team not being ranked above a 9-4 Wazzu that lost two of their last three.

# ? Nov 12, 2016 04:02

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

So uh what a good weekend eh?

# ? Nov 13, 2016 14:58

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Week 11 - Everything Burns

Legend:
Bold = Eligible
Italics = Projected Eligible
~~Strike = Ineligible~~

ACC

ATLANTIC

pre:

Louisville (7-1, 9-1)         @HOU, UK            (7-1, 11-1)
Clemson (6-1, 9-1)            @WAKE, SC           (7-1, 11-1)
Florida State (4-3, 7-3)      @CUSE, UF           (5-3, 9-3)
Wake Forest (3-3, 6-4)        CLEM, BC            (4-4, 7-5)
Syracuse (2-4, 4-6)           FSU, @PITT          (2-6, 4-8)
NC State (2-4, 5-5)           MIA, @UNC           (2-6, 5-7)
Boston College (1-6, 4-6)     UCONN, @WAKE        (1-7, 4-8)

Clemson vs. Wake Forest decides the Atlantic next week: if Clemson wins they clinch the division, if Wake wins Louisville somehow backdoors their way to the Atlantic title. NC State upends Syracuse, which has ramifications on the APR pool of teams. Good on BC somehow not being mathematically eliminated yet.

COASTAL

pre:

Virginia Tech (5-2, 7-3)      @ND, UVA             (6-2, 9-3)
North Carolina (5-2, 7-3)     citadel, NCST        (6-2, 9-3)
Miami (3-3, 6-4)              @NCST, DUKE          (5-3, 8-4)
Pitt (3-3, 6-4)               DUKE, CUSE           (4-4, 7-5)
Georgia Tech (3-4, 6-4)       UVA, @UGA            (3-5, 6-6)
Duke (1-5, 4-6)               @PITT, @MIA          (1-7, 4-8)
Virginia (1-5, 2-8)           @GT, @VT             (1-7, 2-10)

Both VT and UNC poo poo the bed this week, but with both teams holding H2H tiebreakers over Miami/Pitt it remains a two horse race. VT clinches with a win over Virginia OR a UNC loss to NC State, whereas UNC needs both opposites to occur. Miami/Pitt/GT all get in and Duke's one more upset away from jumping to the head of the APR line, and two from being able to ignore the line all together.

pre:

Notre Dame (4-6)     VT, @USC     (4-8)

Notre Dame is now 4-6.

ACC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 9: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Florida State, Miami, Wake Forest, Pitt, Georgia Tech

BIG TEN

EAST

pre:

Michigan (6-1, 9-1)           IND, @OSU          (7-2, 10-2)
Ohio State (6-1, 9-1)         @MSU, MICH         (8-1, 11-1)
Penn State (6-1, 8-2)         @RUT, MSU          (8-1, 10-2)
Indiana (3-4, 5-5)            @MICH, PUR         (4-5, 6-6)
Maryland (2-5, 5-5)           @NEB, RUT          (3-6, 6-6)
Michigan State (1-6, 3-7)     OSU, @PENN         (1-8, 3-9)
Rutgers (0-7, 2-8)            PENN, @MARY        (0-9, 2-10)

Michigan's L doesn't knock them out of the race at all; if they win out they still clinch the East. If anything it dicks over Ohio State, because Buckeye beating Wolverine gives the division to Penn State via having the H2H with Ohio State, unless one of the bad teams some how upends the Nittany Lions. Indiana/Maryland need one more win, which will most likely come at the end of the season.

WEST

pre:

Wisconsin (5-2, 8-2)        @PUR, MINN           (7-2, 10-2)
Nebraska (5-2, 8-2)         MARY, @IOWA          (7-2, 10-2)      
Minnesota (4-3, 7-3)        NW, @WIS             (5-4, 8-4)
Iowa (4-3, 6-4)             @ILL, NEB            (5-4, 7-5)
Northwestern (4-3, 5-5)     @MINN, ILL           (5-4, 6-6)
Illinois (2-5, 3-7)         IOWA, @NW            (2-7, 3-9)
Purdue (1-6, 3-7)           WIS, @IND            (1-8, 3-9)

There's five teams that could theoretically win the West, but I am not in the mood to try and figure out every scenario. Wisconsin clinches if they win out, and in the end that's probably all that'll matter. Iowa's in after their upset of Michigan, Northwestern's got two good chances to get one, and Illinois/Purdue give up the ghost.

Big Ten Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Northwestern, Maryland, Indiana

Big 12

pre:

Oklahoma (7-0, 8-2)            @WVU, OKST           (9-0, 10-2)
Oklahoma State (6-1, 8-2)      @TCU, @OK            (7-2, 9-3)
West Virginia (5-1, 8-1)       OK, @ISU, BAY        (7-2, 10-2)
Baylor (3-3, 6-3)              KSU, TTU, @WVU       (3-6, 6-6)
Kansas State (3-3, 5-4)        @BAY, KU, @TCU       (5-4, 7-5)
TCU (3-3, 5-4)                 OKST, @TEX, KSU      (5-4, 7-5)
Texas (3-4, 5-5)               @KU, TCU             (4-5, 6-6) 
Texas Tech (2-5, 4-6)          @ISU, BAY            (4-5, 6-6)
Iowa State (1-6, 2-8)          TTU, WVU             (1-8, 2-10)
Kansas (0-7, 1-9)              TEX, @KSU            (0-9, 1-11)

It's time to start considering the Big 12 back into the playoff race. For Oklahoma's non-con losees, the Ohio State one isn't bad (Houston is since they fell off) and the committee will give you a one-loss buffer. Maybe. 11-1 Big 12 Champ West Virginia should absolutely be a contender, and them/Oklahoma this weekend could put them in the conversation. Baylor's falling apart and now are without Seth Russell, Texas needs to beat Kansas to go bowling or else Charlie should be fired, and against all logic I'm going to put Texas Tech back in the fold, since I think they catch a Baylor that's mentally cracked and that's enough to get to 6 wins. Iowa State wins the Game of the Century over Kansas.

Big 12 Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 8: Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oklahoma State, TCU, Kansas State, Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor

PAC-12

NORTH

pre:

Washington State (7-0, 8-2)     @COL, WASH      (7-2, 8-4)
Washington (6-1, 9-1)           ASU, @WSU       (8-1, 11-1)
Stanford (5-3, 7-3)             @CAL, RICE      (5-4, 9-3)
Cal (2-5, 4-6)                  STAN, UCLA      (3-6, 5-7)
Oregon (1-6, 3-7)               @UTAH, @ORST    (2-7, 4-8)
Oregon State (1-6, 2-8)         ARIZ, ORE       (2-7, 2-10)

Wazzu enters the driver's seat and can win the North without the Apple Cup if they win at Colorado and Washington falls to Arizona State this weekend. Otherwise, it's winner take all in the Apple Cup. Civil War's going to be broadcast on local public access this year.

SOUTH

pre:

Colorado (6-1, 8-2)          WSU, UTAH       (8-1, 10-2)
USC (6-2, 7-3)               @UCLA, ND       (7-2, 9-3)
Utah (5-2, 8-2)              ORE, @COL       (7-2, 10-2)
Arizona State (2-5, 5-5)     @WASH, @ARIZ    (3-6, 6-6)
UCLA (2-5, 4-6)              USC, @CAL       (3-6, 5-7)
Arizona (0-7, 2-8)           @ORST, ASU      (1-8, 3-9)

USC's keeps them alive in the South race, though they need a specific set of circumstances. Utah wins a three way tie, which can only happen if they beat Utah and have H2H over the Utes/Trojans. Sun Devils need to win the Territorial Cup to get in, UCLA with a last gasp that's probably too little too late, though I don't know where they are in the APR pool.

Pac-12 Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Washington, Colorado, Utah, USC, Stanford, Washington State, Arizona State

SEC

EAST

pre:

Florida (5-2, 7-2)            @LSU, @FSU      (5-3, 7-4)
Georgia (4-4, 6-4)            ULL, GT         (4-4, 8-4)
Kentucky (4-4, 5-5)           peay, @LOU      (4-4, 6-6)
Tennessee (3-3, 7-3)          MIZZ, @VAN      (5-3, 9-3)
South Carolina (3-5, 5-5)     wcu, @CLEM      (3-5, 6-6)
Vanderbilt (1-5, 4-6)         MISS, TENN      (1-7, 4-8)
Missouri (1-5, 3-7)           @TENN, ARK      (2-6, 4-8)

Florida repeats as East champs with either a win at LSU or Tennessee losing one of their last two games; the issue is the opposite scenario is most likely to come true and the Vols somehow backdoor their way to winning the division after all. Georgia's upset puts them in prime position for a Florida bowl game, Kentucky/South Carolina have to beat their FCS cupcakes to become eligible, and Vandy's loss to Mizzou looks like it'll knock them out of the APR pool and raise everyone else there up a spot.

WEST

pre:

Alabama (7-0, 10-0)              chat, AUB, SECCG   (8-0, 13-0)
Auburn (5-2, 7-3)                bama a&m, @BAMA    (5-3, 8-4)
LSU (4-2, 6-3)                   UF, @A&M           (6-2, 8-3)
Texas A&M (4-3, 7-3)             UTSA, LSU          (4-4, 8-4)
Arkansas (2-4, 6-4)              @MSST, @MIZZ       (2-6, 6-6)
Ole Miss (2-4, 5-5)              VAN, MSST          (4-4, 7-5)
Mississippi State (2-4, 4-6)     ARK, @MISS         (3-5, 5-7)

Bama wins the West as all hope is lost. A&M's late season collapse may mean that we somehow come all the way back around to a Texas/Texas A&M bidding war for Tom Herman. LSU's making it pretty clear that they want to keep DACOACHO, and Ole Miss sacrificed the future for the immediate future, and what that means for the teams/Hugh Freeze's future prospects is unknown but it's pretty easy to read between the lines there. Beep beep bert bowl ~~birmingham~~ Shreveport.

SEC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 11: Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Texas A&M, Florida, Ole Miss, Kentucky, South Carolina, Arkansas

AMERICAN

EAST

pre:

South Florida (5-1, 8-2)     @SMU, UCF          (7-1, 10-2)
Temple (5-1, 7-3)            @TULANE, ECU       (7-1, 9-3)
UCF (4-2, 6-4)               TULSA, @USF        (5-3, 7-5)
Cincinnati (1-5, 4-6)        MEM, @TULSA        (1-7, 4-8)
East Carolina (1-5, 3-7)     SMU, @TEMPLE       (1-7, 3-9)
UConn (1-6, 3-7)             @BC, TULANE        (3-5, 5-7)

Good on USF beating Memphis, but it doesn't change that they need Temple to take an L somewhere due to the H2H. UCF gets in as Scott Frost's made a quick turnaround in Orlando, and Tommy Tubberville's time in Cincy seems to be coming to an end. Bye ECU.

WEST

pre:

Navy (5-1, 7-2)        @ECU, @SMU, ARMY    (7-1, 10-2)
Houston (5-2, 8-2)     LOU, @MEM           (5-3, 8-4)
Tulsa (4-2, 7-3)       @UCF, CIN           (4-4, 8-4)
Memphis (3-3, 6-4)     @CIN, HOU           (5-3, 8-4)
SMU (3-3, 5-5)         USF, NAVY           (3-5, 5-7)
Tulane (0-6, 3-7)      TEMPLE, @UCONN      (0-8, 3-9)

Navy clinches the West with a win at hapless ECU next weekend. The shine is off Houston/Louisville but still should be a pretty decent game. SMU needs an upset somewhere since I don't think they'll come out of the APR pool.

American Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Navy, South Florida, Temple, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, UCF

C-USA

EAST

pre:

Western Kentucky (6-1, 8-3)   @MAR          (7-1, 9-3)
Old Dominion (5-1, 7-3)       @FAU, FIU     (7-1, 9-3)
Middle Tennessee (3-3, 6-4)   @CHA, FAU     (5-3, 8-4)
Charlotte (3-3, 4-6)          MTSU, @UTSA   (3-5, 4-8)
FIU (3-3, 3-7)                MAR, @ODU     (4-4, 4-8)
FAU (2-4, 3-7)                ODU, @MTSU    (2-6, 3-9)
Marshall (2-4, 3-7)           @FIU, WKU     (2-6, 3-9)

WKU wins the division again with either a win at Marshall or an ODU loss to the Florida's. Charlotte's dreams of going bowling take a probably fatal shot in losing to Rice.

WEST

pre:

Louisiana Tech (6-1, 8-3)   @USM, C-USACG   (7-1, 9-4)
UTSA (4-3, 5-5)             @A&M, CHA       (5-3, 6-6)
Southern Miss (3-3, 5-5)    @UNT, LATECH    (4-4, 6-6)
North Texas (2-4, 4-6)      USM, @UTEP      (3-5, 5-7)
UTEP (1-5, 3-7)             @RICE, UNT      (2-6, 4-8)
Rice (1-6, 2-8)             UTEP, @STAN     (1-7, 2-10)

LaTech beats UTSA while Southern Miss falls, giving the Fightin' Mailmen the division and a rematch with WKU. North Texas and Southern Miss looks like it'll be a bowl eliminator. UTEP is eliminated and I think that's it for Sean Kugler.

C-USA Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Western Kentucky, Louisiana Tech, Old Dominion, Middle Tennessee, UTSA, Southern Miss

INDEPENDENTS

pre:

BYU (6-4)     UMASS, UTAHST      (8-4)
Army (5-5)    morganst, NAVY     (6-6)
UMass (2-8)   @BYU, @HAW         (2-10)

BYU wins and they've now got a date with the Poinsettia Bowl. Army needs a win over Morgan State to come out of the APR pool.

Independent Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 1: BYU

MAC

EAST

pre:

Ohio (5-1, 7-3)            @CMU, AKRON   (7-1, 9-3)
Miami Ohio (5-2, 5-6)      BALL          (6-2, 6-6)
Akron (3-4, 5-6)           @OHIO         (3-5, 5-7)
Kent State (2-4, 3-7)      @BG, NIU      (2-6, 3-9)
Bowling Green (1-5, 2-8)   KENT, BUFF    (3-5, 4-8)
Buffalo (1-5, 2-8)         @WMU, @BG     (1-7, 2-10)

Ohio clinches with a win over CMU or Akron or Miami falling to Ball State, and it would honestly be a shame if the Redhawks' miraculous run comes up one game short. Akron's now played themselves out of a bowl, so good job there fellas.

WEST

pre:

Western Michigan (6-0, 10-0)   BUFF, TOL      (8-0, 12-0)
Toledo (5-1, 8-2)              BALL, @WMU     (6-2, 9-3)
Eastern Michigan (3-3, 6-4)    NIU, CMU       (4-4, 7-5)
Northern Illinois (3-3, 3-7)   @EMU, @KENT    (4-4, 4-8)
Central Michigan (2-4, 5-5)    OHIO, @EMU     (2-6, 5-7)
Ball State (1-5, 4-6)          @TOL, @MOH     (2-6, 5-7)

Gameday's going to the Boatrowers, which means it's really going to suck if they somehow drop one of these last couple games. The division isn't even a lock yet with Toledo at the end of the year. Good on EMU going from the basement to eligible, bad on NIU going from the penthouse to the outhouse, and if Rod Carey isn't fired this offseason he's firmly on the hotseat in 2017.

MAC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 5: Western Michigan, Ohio, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Miami Ohio

MOUNTAIN WEST

MOUNTAIN

pre:

Boise State (5-1, 9-1)      UNLV, @AF       (7-1, 11-1)
Wyoming (5-1, 7-3)          SDSU, @NM       (6-2, 8-4)
New Mexico (5-1, 7-3)       @CSU, WYO       (6-2, 8-4)
Air Force (3-3, 7-3)        @SJST, BOISE    (4-4, 8-4)
Colorado State (3-3, 5-5)   NM, SDSU        (3-5, 5-7)
Utah State (1-6, 3-7)       @NEV, @BYU      (1-7, 3-9)

Boise gets the break they need as Wyoming loses a shootout to UNLV, and with the Cowboys facing San Diego State, Boise could find themselves back on top by winning out and could leapfrog WMU even without the Boatrowers taking an L. Colorado State falls into the APR pool, see ya Utah State.

WEST

pre:

San Diego State (6-0, 9-1)   @WYO, CSU, MWCCG  (8-0, 11-2)
UNLV (3-3, 4-6)              @BOISE, NEV       (4-4, 5-7)
Hawai'i (3-4, 4-7)           @FRESNO, UMASS    (4-4, 6-7)
San Jose State (2-4, 3-7)    AF, @FRESNO       (3-5, 4-8)
Nevada (1-5, 3-7)            UTAHST, @UNLV     (3-5, 5-7)
Fresno State (0-6, 1-9)      HAW, SJST         (0-8, 1-11)

San Diego State clinches the West, but with Boise now projected back into the MWCCG it means I'm not projecting the Aztecs as winning the conference. The upset win is also too little too late for UNLV unless they can somehow knock off the Broncos. Hawai'i needs to win out to make a bowl after the other picks but before the APR pool at 6-7, good news is that their last two games are quite winnable provided Coach let's them sit down this week.

MWC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Boise State, San Diego State, Wyoming, New Mexico, Air Force, Hawai'i

SUN BELT

pre:

Troy (5-0, 8-1)                  ARKST, @TXST, @GSO   (7-1, 10-2)
Arkansas State (5-0, 5-4)        @TROY, @ULL, @TXST   (8-0, 8-4)
App State (5-1, 7-3)             ULM, @NMST           (7-1, 9-3)
Idaho (4-2, 6-4)                 USA, GSU             (6-2, 8-4)
Louisiana-Lafayette (3-3, 4-5)   @UGA, ARKST, @ULM    (4-4, 5-7)
Georgia Southern (3-3, 4-6)      GSU, TROY            (4-4, 5-7)
Louisiana-Monroe (3-3, 4-6)      @APP, ULL            (3-5, 4-8)
New Mexico State (1-4, 2-7)      TXST, APP, @USA      (2-6, 3-9)
South Alabama (1-5, 4-5)         pres, @IDAHO, NMSU   (2-6, 6-6)
Georgia State (1-5, 2-8)         GSO, @IDAHO          (1-7, 2-10)
Texas State (0-5, 2-7)           @NMSU, TROY, ARKST   (0-8, 2-10)

Well, now it's Arkansas State and Troy for the Fun Belt crown, and a split between those two and App State is kinda in the cards. Idaho's officially in, Georgia Southern's looking like they're out, but South Alabama needs wins over Presbyterian and New Mexico State, so the Fun Belt keeps their projected five teams in.

Sun Belt Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 5: Arkansas State, Troy, App State, Idaho, South Alabama

Current Bowl Eligible Teams: 52
Number of Projected Bowl Eligible Teams: 75, one less than last week.

College Football Playoff

Let's just go ahead and get this out of the way:

pre:

Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Alabama (Pac-12 Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Alabama (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Alabama (Big Ten Champ)

pawwwwwwwwwwwwwllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

But seriously:

pre:

Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Wisconsin (Big Ten Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Clemson (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)

Bama stays at one and if that somehow changes none of us will live to see 2017. I'm projecting Clemson and Washington to win out, win their respective conferences, and still make it into the Playoff safely. The huge change comes from the Big Ten, where my projection of Ohio State beating Michigan ends up giving the Big Ten East to Penn State, who loses to Wisconsin in the B1GCG. It then becomes a very real conversation between an 11-2 Wisconsin versus a 10-2 Oklahoma that ran the table in the Big 12 or possibly an 11-1 West Virginia, but the strength of the Big Ten as opposed to the Big 12 is enough to push the Badgers over the top.

New Year's Bowls

pre:

Sugar Bowl    Jan. 2   	New Orleans, La.   Big 12 vs SEC	    Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. Tennessee (SEC Rep)
Rose Bowl     Jan. 2   	Pasadena, Calif.   Big Ten vs Pac-12	    Ohio State (Big Ten Rep) vs. Colorado (Pac-12 Rep)
Cotton Bowl   Jan. 2   	Arlington, Tex.    Group of 5 vs. At-large  Western Michigan (Group of 5 Rep) vs. Michigan (At-Large)
Orange Bowl   Dec. 30   Miami, Fla.	   ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC/ND   Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. Penn State (Big Ten Rep)

Everything changes here. Oklahoma wins the Big 12 and heads to the Sugar, where we really don't have anyone from the SEC who deserves to go tbh. Tennessee almost gets the nod by default as they get to 9 wins and the illusion that the SEC is the hands-down best conference is completely shattered. 11-1 Ohio State goes to the Rose Bowl, much to the chagrin of divisional champ Penn State, who has to settle for facing ACC rep Louisville. The committee won't push a Boise State with one L above an undefeated Western Michigan team so the Boatrowers end up going to the Cotton, only to run into At-Large Michigan, who's going to be out for blood after falling to Ohio State at the end of the year.

And the rest:

pre:

Outback Bowl	        Jan. 2	  Tampa, Fla.	         B1G vs. SEC        	Nebraska vs. Georgia
TaxSlayer Bowl	        Dec. 31   Jacksonville, Fla.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	North Carolina vs. Auburn
Citrus Bowl	        Dec. 31	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Virginia Tech vs. LSU
Arizona Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Tucson, Ariz.	         CUSA vs. MWC       	Idaho vs. New Mexico
Music City Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Nashville, Tenn.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Iowa vs. Florida
Sun Bowl	        Dec. 30	  El Paso, Tex.	         ACC vs. P12        	Pitt vs. Arizona State
Liberty Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Memphis, Tenn.	 B12 vs. SEC        	Texas vs. Ole Miss
Alamo Bowl	        Dec. 29	  San Antonio, Tex.	 B12 vs. P12        	West Virginia vs. Utah
Belk Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Charlotte, N.C.	 ACC vs. SEC        	Wake Forest vs. Kentucky
Birmingham Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Birmingham, Ala.	 AAC vs. SEC            Temple vs. South Carolina
Texas Bowl	        Dec. 28	  Houston, Tex.	         B12 vs. SEC        	TCU vs. Texas A&M
Foster Farms Bowl	Dec. 28	  Santa Clara, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Northwestern vs. USC
Russell Athletic Bowl	Dec. 28	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC vs. B12        	Florida State vs. Oklahoma State
Pinstripe Bowl	        Dec. 28	  New York, N.Y.	 ACC vs. B1G        	Miami vs. Maryland
Cactus Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Tempe, Ariz.	         B12 vs. P12            Kansas State vs. UCLA*
Holiday Bowl	        Dec. 27	  San Diego, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Minnesota vs. Stanford
Military Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Annapolis, Md.	 ACC vs. AAC         	Georgia Tech vs. Memphis
Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dec. 27	  Dallas, Tex.	         B1G vs. CUSA           Baylor vs. Western Kentucky
Independence Bowl	Dec. 26	  Shreveport, La.	 SEC vs. ACC            Arkansas vs. Southern Miss
Quick Lane Bowl	        Dec. 26	  Detroit, Mich.	 ACC vs. B1G            UConn* vs. Indiana
St. Petersburg Bowl	Dec. 26	  St. Petersburg, Fla.   AAC vs ACC         	South Florida vs. Army*
Hawai'i Bowl	        Dec. 24	  Honolulu, Hawaii	 CUSA vs. MWC      	Old Dominion vs. Hawai'i
Dollar General Bowl	Dec. 23	  Mobile, Ala.	         MAC vs. SB	        Ohio vs. Troy
Armed Forces Bowl	Dec. 23	  Fort Worth, Tex.	 B12 vs. Navy           Texas Tech vs. Navy
Bahamas Bowl	        Dec. 23	  Nassau, Bahamas	 CUSA vs. MAC       	UTSA vs. Miami Ohio
Idaho Potato Bowl	Dec. 22	  Boise, Idaho	         MAC vs. MWC            North Texas* vs. San Diego State
Poinsettia Bowl	        Dec. 21	  San Diego, Calif.	 MWC vs. BYU       	Air Force vs. BYU
Boca Raton Bowl	        Dec. 20	  Boca Raton, Fla.	 AAC vs. CUSA           Tulsa vs. Louisiana Tech
Miami Beach Bowl	Dec. 19	  Miami, Fla.	         AAC vs. MAC            Houston vs. Eastern Michigan
New Orleans Bowl	Dec. 17	  New Orleans, La.	 MWC vs. SB             Mississippi State* vs. Arkansas State
Cure Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Orlando, Fla.	         AAC vs. SB             UCF vs. South Alabama
Camellia Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Montgomery, Ala.	 MAC vs. SB         	Toledo vs. App State
Las Vegas Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Las Vegas, Nev.	 MWC vs. P12            Boise State vs. Washington State
New Mexico Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Albuquerque, N.M.	 CUSA vs. MWC           Middle Tennessee vs. Wyoming

We need five from the APR pool, so we pull Army, North Texas, UCLA, Mississippi State (which shows you how far down into the APR we're having to dig), and UConn. UCLA fills the Pac-12's spot in the Cactus, CLANGA heads to New Orleans and juices that bowl up a little bit, I decide that Army deserves a Florida vacation and send them to the St. Pete against USF, North Texas goes to Boise and UConn bows their heads in shame and travels to Murder City.

We've got some fun matchups now, Boise/Wazzu in Vegas seems hilariously irresponsible, the aforementioned CLANGA/Arky State as Cowbell tries to redeem their honor against the Fun Belt, Texas Tech/Navy in the ultimate styles clash, a genuine Texas battle in the Texas Bowl while the Alamo wonders what they did wrong. Nebraska/Georgia meet for just the fourth time overall, but the third time in four years, and we'll see what Bud Foster can do against Leonard Fournette, if Fournette cares.

This is still wrong. It will always be wrong. We'll just have to see how wrong it is.

# ? Nov 13, 2016 21:25

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

In a world where there are Three B1G teams in the New Years Bowl, how does the picking order work? Case I would rather have PSU duck Lamar Jackson as the B1G rep and go fight the Boatrowers as the at-large

# ? Nov 14, 2016 03:07

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

In a world where there are Three B1G teams in the New Years Bowl, how does the picking order work? Case I would rather have PSU duck Lamar Jackson as the B1G rep and go fight the Boatrowers as the at-large

The committee places teams in the NY6 bowls. They're obligated to fill according to the previous conference commitments (i.e. B1G/P12 in the Rose if it isn't a playoff), and generally do so by taking the next highest ranked team from that conference.

My educated guess is that the B1G champ goes to the Playoff, whoever is next highest ranked goes to the Rose as that bowl's rep, the next highest after that goes to the Orange as part of the SEC/B1G/Notre Dame agreement with Notre Dame being 4-6 and the SEC being Alabama and 13 frauds, and then it just so happens that the one true At-Large spot in the Cotton goes to a B1G team.

Penn State goes to the Playoff if they win the B1G. Lose and you'll need to hope that the committee values the H2H win in putting a 10-3 PSU team into the Rose over 11-1 OSU; personally I don't think they will. If you really want to avoid the Orange hope that a 10-2 Michigan that's lost 2 of their last 3 is still valued higher than a divisional champ; I don't think that the Wolverines will be.

In short, win the whole conference and head to the Playoff, hope Michigan wins and that OSU/Wisconsin go before you, or take an L and possibly drop out all together.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:54

Mukaikubo: Mar 14, 2006; "You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."

I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect a blessed thing, but you appear to have both GT and UVA losing their game against each other in these projections.

I'm not going to argue that that wouldn't be a more fitting end to their conference seasons, mind you. :v:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:26

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Chaos Reigns as Trump Cancels Moon Powl Bowl Season

pre:

ACC - Clemson (11-2) over Virginia Tech (9-4) - No change, despite Clemson losing the Textile Bowl somehow.  

Big 10 - Wisconsin (11-2) over Penn State (9-4) - Ohio State beats Michigan.

Big 12 - Oklahoma State (10-2) - Bedlam becomes the Big 12 Championship game, Okie Lite emerges as the one true champion.

Pac 12 - Colorado (10-3) over Washington (11-2) - The RNG continues to forecast an upset as Washington is knocked out of the playoff.  Does a 3 loss Colorado really make it?

SEC - Alabama (13-0) over Florida (9-4) - No change.



AAC - Navy (11-2) over Temple (8-5) - Island hopping over the Central Time Zone pays benefits.

CUSA - Western Kentucky (10-3) over Louisiana Tech (9-4) - No change.

MAC - Western Michigan (13-0) over Ohio (8-5) - No change.

MWC - Boise State (12-1) over San Diego State (11-2) - Boise would get serious run as a potential NY6 at large in a normal year.  We aren't having a normal year.

Sun Belt - Troy (11-1) - Congrats to Troy, the first Sun Belt team in the top 25.

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Playoffs - 

#1 Alabama (13-0)
#2 Clemson (11-2)
#3 Ohio State (11-1)
#4 Wisconsin (11-2)

That's right, two Big Ten teams.  Wisconsin is in as the Big Ten champ, and Ohio State is in as the best one-loss team on the board in a sea of 2+ loss teams.  
Colorado doesn't make it with three losses, Oklahoma State doesn't make it because Big 12.
Shoulda run the table, Tom Herman.

First four out: Louisville (11-1), Oklahoma State (10-2), Colorado (10-3), Western Michigan (13-0)

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NY6 Bowls - 

Orange		Louisville		Michigan
Cotton		Western Michigan	Washington
Rose		Colorado		Penn State
Sugar		Oklahoma State		Florida

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Mere Mortal Bowls - 

Alamo		Oklahoma		Washington State
Arizona		Idaho			UTEP+
Armed Forces	Navy			Northwestern+
Bahamas		UCF			Eastern Michigan
Belk		North Carolina		Auburn
Birmingham	Tulsa			Ole Miss
Boca Raton	Memphis			Old Dominion
Cactus		Baylor			Arizona State
Camellia	Central Michigan	Appalachian State
Citrus		Georgia			Virginia Tech
Cure		SMU			Arkansas State
Foster Farms	Maryland		Stanford
Dollar General	Toledo			Troy
Hawaii		Western Kentucky	Air Force
Heart of Dallas	Louisiana Tech		Tulane+
Holiday		Minnesota		USC
Independence	South Carolina		Army+
Las Vegas	Boise State		California
Liberty		Kansas State		UCLA+
Miami Beach	South Florida		Ohio U
Military	Temple			Syracuse+
Music City	Iowa			Tennessee
New Mexico	Middle Tennessee	New Mexico
New Orleans	Southern Miss		Louisiana-Lafayette
Outback		Nebraska		Arkansas
Pinstripe	Pittsburgh		Indiana
Poinsettia	BYU			San Diego State
Potato		Wyoming			Hawaii+
QuickLane	Wake Forest		UNC Charlotte*
Russell Ath	Florida State		West Virginia
St. Petersburg	Houston			Boston College
Sun		Miami 			Utah
TaxSlayer	Georgia Tech		LSU
Texas		Texas			Texas A&M

* denotes non-slotted teams
+ denotes 5-7 teams in via APR.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 20:15

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

If Wazzu beats Colorado and loses to UW in the Apple Cup, and UW wins the Pac-12 championship against either USC / Colorado / Utah, that puts UW in the playoffs and Wazzu in the Rose Bowl?

I'm just trying to see what the highest aspirations Wazzu should have at this point while also not losing to the Huskies.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 23:52

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

seiferguy posted:

If Wazzu beats Colorado and loses to UW in the Apple Cup, and UW wins the Pac-12 championship against either USC / Colorado / Utah, that puts UW in the playoffs and Wazzu in the Rose Bowl?

I'm just trying to see what the highest aspirations Wazzu should have at this point while also not losing to the Huskies.

We'll see when the rankings come out here, but having to jump the three from the South without beating Washington seems like a high order.

# ? Nov 16, 2016 01:03

kayakyakr: Feb 16, 2004; Kayak is true

seiferguy posted:

If Wazzu beats Colorado and loses to UW in the Apple Cup, and UW wins the Pac-12 championship against either USC / Colorado / Utah, that puts UW in the playoffs and Wazzu in the Rose Bowl?

I'm just trying to see what the highest aspirations Wazzu should have at this point while also not losing to the Huskies.

They'll need:

- Beat Colorado, lose a close game to UW
- ND beats USC
- Colorado beats Utah
- UW beats USC in the champ game rematch

That would either send Wazzu to the Rose Bowl or no one to the Rose Bowl. Both USC and Utah need to take losses before the championship game, otherwise they'd still have priority over Wazzu.

# ? Nov 16, 2016 01:11

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

I am currently unreasonably excited about Iowa possibly being in the Holiday Bowl which probably means they'll lose both games and wind up in the loving pinstripe bowl or some garbage

# ? Nov 16, 2016 02:42

mercenarynuker: Sep 10, 2008

Of all the teams even near the top 15, I have no idea who WMU would match up well against, and consequently no idea who to root for to do well, but not too well

# ? Nov 16, 2016 02:53

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

If Washington misses the playoffs I'll settle for a date with WMU, that sounds like a fun as hell matchup.

# ? Nov 16, 2016 03:42

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# ? May 3, 2024 18:43

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Also real hard loving pass on playing Tennessee in a bowl game again, especially a pseudo home game, although Nashville is probably the non-California big ten bowl destination I'd be most interested in actually traveling to

# ? Nov 16, 2016 04:18

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