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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Then again it's around for a long time and right now I'm saving for Eiko and the next lucky banner, so I definitely don't need to be pulling on it right now. Kylra fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Oct 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 04:10 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 01:42 |
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This. Ultimate. Is. Terrible. I. Hate. It. So. Much. It wouldn't be so bad if I had native SG or SS2, but RW lasts like 40% of the duration I need it to.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 05:13 |
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I could do it with native wall, proshellga and one of my medicas easily because I can take them out fast enough one by one. I just don't have native wall. Or a lot of aoe. I do happen to have Crystal Cross for Yuffie though..and I could make a couple Aegis Strikes and veils...hmmm.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 05:27 |
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Other than Tyro not really. I was using the 3* one and I just can't take the constant boomerang swords without stoneskin/sg. E: I don't have enough orbs to make an attack down dance at the moment anyway. Kylra fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Oct 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 05:37 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:If you want I can put up an FF8 geared Lightning RW that should be able to near singlehandedly clear waves two and three with maybe a biongrenade and a summon to back it up. SageAcrin posted:As someone without* native Shout and with just-started-playing-a-month-ago hones, my suggestion for Esthar Invasion Ultimate is to do what I did; Beat down the two Terminators in wave 1, play very carefully, slowly beat down the remaining three soldiers with physicals, then use two or three bars worth of hopefully multiple target Soul Break
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 06:37 |
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SageAcrin posted:*Without native Shout when I did that fight. 2/11 tonight, Platinum Sword/Excalibur V, trinity complete If I wasn't saving to pull on Eiko 1 while it is up I would totally be trying to Platinum Sword and SG though.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 06:43 |
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SageAcrin posted:In fairness, repeatedly spamming Gauntlet would be pretty pretty good for that fight, as it is both no charge time and grants MT Blink. Not sure if you actually have her leveled, but hey! It's not a bad option. Kylra fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 07:16 |
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When do RWs refresh? I think I need a slightly different tactic to ensure I live to round 3 with this lightning RW. Is the RW used up if you flee the dungeon instead of complete it?
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 07:22 |
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Well, I guess it will have to be later today that I try this again then. I went 20 tries and didn't make it past round 1 with that setup. Going to have to stack up all the mitigation I have and just try to live long enough for Yuffie and a couple hits of Aegis Strike to make it past round 1.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 07:40 |
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Someone else had a similar Lightning setup. Made it to round 3 with physical blinks up. They started with full ATB: shotgun shotgun attack boomerang sword attack 2/5 down that I needed to help clean up and everyone else at half. At least I got the RW off and they went to half health. What I might have to do is clear both waves 1 and 2 then double RW the last. The second wave is probably mildly less dangerous to me since I have two magic blinks.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 08:01 |
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Grrflrkle. Got it to just the two soldiers in wave 3 left with a tiny bit of hp.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 08:13 |
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IT'S FINALLY DEAD AFTER LIKE 70 ATTEMPTS. Screw trying to master it though. I was 1 medal off.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 08:36 |
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Dragon down! That felt good after the trial that was the Ultimate.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 08:51 |
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Now it's back to the mythril and stamina mines.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 08:58 |
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LornMarkus posted:We'll see if I end up pulling on Keeper's Choice. On the one hand picking up Shout or SG would be awesome, but on the other my account doesn't really benefit much from Shared Soul Breaks or another Edincoat. Maybe I'll do it once and grab one of the EnElement ones but that also depends on how quick Eiko 1 rolls up as I'm still at just 12 Mithril after pulling on Cloud 1.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 09:21 |
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I ended up using Aegis Strike r1 x 2, Demonsblood r1 and Swift Bolt r3 plus one of those fancy Lightning RWs.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 18:51 |
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victrix posted:Could someone fill me in on the pro tier method for farming Sundaily? I can't remotely come close to autoattacking my way through, but I figure I'm probably unaware of some easy methods for plowing through it efficiently. 1) Drawtaliate and kill one round regularly. 2) At start of second stage, use Fenrir Overdrive RW. This usually kills both things. 3) Whirl slash everything to death. This also usually kills both things in one shot. 4) Repeat 2-3 for third stage. If you have a good aoe BSB you can probably Dr. Mogs the first round with a similar strategy then go into RW.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:13 |
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If you literally have nothing, then Keeper's Selection vol.2, the first cloud banner with Aerith's group heal (the one with Apocalypse as the header), or the upcoming banner with Eiko's group heal BSB are all probably good choices. I'd probably pull on Cloud 1 or Eiko 1 first if I were starting right now. Cloud's OSB can probably carry through a lot of stuff if you happen to get it, and Eiko's BSB is one of the better ones if you have a physical group that I can tell. The stuff on vol. 2 is better once you have a few things to use them with, and that will be open much longer than either Cloud 1 or Eiko 1 to boot.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:22 |
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Yeah, Eiko's is probably a better longer term pick, but if you happened to get Ragnarok it's probably the better usable-it-by-itself relic. Hamelin and Ragnarok VII both return for OSBfest, but some of the other stuff like Lightbringer IX and Crystal Comb don't.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:35 |
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I don't think Shout is as useful as a good BSB or OSB if you're mostly stuck with default SBs and low rank 3* hones. And Sentinel's Grimoire isn't super until you get into ultimates. And you can RW Shout with a good native BSB until you get a few good things collected or start doing ultimates. And Vanille's group heal isn't exactly amazing compared to getting a bunch of group heals, curaga + physical blink, and group +crit (if you have a physical party).
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:43 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:There's no guarantee that Hamelin will return for OSBfest. There's a good chance, since it's a pretty hyped Burst, but no guarantees.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:44 |
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SageAcrin posted:I thought Ragnarok 7 was literally the only OSB that doesn't return during OSBfest. Yeah, my bad. I got it mixed up with a different Ragnarok.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:45 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:Only the new featured relics (like the new OSBs) are guaranteed to show up on the fest. The OSBs already released up to that point will also likely make it in. Everything else is in a state of 'maybe'.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 19:47 |
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 23:41 |
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pichupal posted:It is the headliner for Eiko 1, but when they say new, they mean literally debuted with the event. All the more reason for me to pull more on Eiko 1 then.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 23:48 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:Did somebody say the Eiko event starts soon? Crap. The Lucky Draw starts tomorrow night, and I'm only at 15 mythril. That means that if I do the Lucky Draw, I won't be able to do an 11 pull on Eiko 1...this is a bad situation.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2016 03:04 |
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I got 100 mithril, now where's eiko 1!
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2016 17:26 |
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All I got was Vanille's medica that restores an ability charge.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2016 05:45 |
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Alxprit posted:First world problems with having a stamina refresh ready to go right before the Eiko event. The plan is to get my refresh only moments before the event starts, of course. But in the meantime, do I do Elite realm dungeons that don't give stamina shards, or just work on Wednesdaily and worry about all that on Thursday when it's more appealing?
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2016 14:19 |
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Kawalimus posted:drat it I was already to do a draw on the IX banner tonight, only to find out they moved the event up a day. This 516 mythril is burning a hole in my pocket and IX is my worst of the non I-III realms.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 01:07 |
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I can't put together a decent black mage party for Diamond Weapon. All I have for mag is Hope's Skycutter. I do, however, have 3 whm medica relics, a shared mnd medica relic, 5 characters of decent level that can cast Diaga (Celes, Tyro, Selphie, Lenna and Vanille), enough orbs to make a good number of Diaga r2s, and Vanille's ability restoration medica. If I made a full Diaga party with Hope's BSB RW, is that liable to be enough damage to finish the battle? I think between 4 medicas, two magic blinks, shellga, and +50% res I could weather a good bit of damage, so I'm a bit more worried on the killing front. E: And maybe I'll get Hamelin so I'll have 5 medicas? Who knows. Kylra fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 13, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 03:30 |
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I suppose I am getting ahead of myself a bit too since I haven't even tried it with my physical a-team.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 03:42 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Honestly? You're better off having a Darkness 5 mage cast Memento Mori and then summon a Hope BSB roaming warrior. Even without synergy gear, with MM, you should be able to get that burst to provide somewhere in the neighborhood of 200-225k damage out of the 310 needed to kill the boss over ~13 rounds.It also helps to bring a Dancer or two to do Multi Break, Magic Breakdance, and Mental Breakdance. Tyro and Lenna can fill that role for youand bring good relics for good measure it sounds like CaptainPsyko posted:For reference: With Keeper's Tome (the highest mag item I have), Memento Mori, Maria's Song, Braska's Robe and Amulet (I don't have any ff7 mag accessories) Tyro should hit ~434 mag. Vanille's Staff is about 40 less mag base than the tome but +holy, and then the +holy from Braska's Robe. I could also stick on attunement I guess if I don't need anyone else to do things, and just have someone else cast shellga and protectga. That would save a startup round and let me give Mog's to Selphie to retain magic blinking goodness or to Lenna for +50% res which will probably help a lot since I don't have native wall. If I take attunement I'm feeling like the extra mag from the tome would probably be better, and that it might be better that way anyway. And if what you say is correct, it's going to be well into overkill either way, so it would save me some upgrade mats for the time being since Vanille's staff is still 1/20. I just gotta get the last 3 major dark orbs for multibreak. And also pray I can weather the damage. E: The only other Dark 4+ user I have with any levels is Cid Raines, and he can't use anything to get mag nearly as high right now. Kylra fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 13, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 04:44 |
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SageAcrin posted:Wall and Res boosts definitely aren't required-the big jerk literally only uses ignore resistance magic after the first Core close at 70%. Breaks matter a lot more, as does Protect and defense boosts so that the other half of the time he spends stepping on you is less painful. Just the breaks should be enough for the opening magic, from what I recall. I still need to make multibreak r1 at some point though so I don't accidentally craft out the materials when I really need it again. I guess I'll see about wrapping up this event tomorrow, and then get ready for friendship ribbon now that I have a plan that seems very workable. If it doesn't work it's only 1 stamina.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 05:16 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Edit; if you have Braska's Robe and can egg him and use him, his SB will More than make up for not having Memento Mori. Rapidcast high regen and +30 % MAG will absolutely own on this fight.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 05:19 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Fair enough - you can probably still get more Mag out of one of your surplus of white mages than Tyro. Like, at level 80, Celes literally has fifty two more Mag than Tyro. And she can use that +holy Rod with 40 less Mag. I can't emphasize this enough, don't have Tyro be your hope BSB user. Right now my Celes has 149 base mag, 50 more than Tyro. And she's my highest base mag character by a good margin (Lenna is second at 124). Taking out Memento Mori and adding in Mana's Paen puts Celes at 427 and +40% (can't take attunement because I need Mog's for song) vs 434 and +40% for Tyro. So I think that would work out well and give me back having 2 magic blinks I can use without interrupting the burst damage fest. My magic hones are terrible right now, so +Mag doesn't have a lot of general applicability to me right at this exact moment. By now I do have Quistis's Mighty Guard whip, and exdeath's magic blink SSB in addition to Braska's robe though. So I could probably put together a somewhat cohesive sb set for a mage team if I did have better blm hones. I could even add in Yuffie probably for a grand total of 3 magic blink SBs and 1 physical blink SB. This is all my black magic right now for reference: Also thanks for all the help everyone.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 06:20 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Yuffie with Fire Veil, whatever dance Tyro isn't carrying and that Hope boomerang will absolutely own the poo poo out of whatever leftover non burst DPS you need and bring a magic blink for good measure on this fight. Recommended. Here's what I'm thinking now: Celes: Drain Strike, Diaga, Maria's Song (Mog'd) Selphie: Memento of Prayer, Curaga, Dreamstage Tyro: Haste, Faith, Keeper's Tome (Mog'd) Lenna: -res dance, Curaga, Pride of Tycoon Yuffie: -mag dance, Fire Veil, Gauntlet And I'll give Yuffie the Skycutter, which should get close to softcapping the veil too with the buffs. Also attunement.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 06:35 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Keep in mind that Burst Mode grants haste and your dancers don't really need haste, and honestly your healer probably doesnt either.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 06:45 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:You'll get more blinks in less time by giving Tyro wrath or lifesiphon or something for dead turns. Probably better to have quicker charging medica than refreshing protect/shell faster though.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 06:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 01:42 |
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Had to mythril some SB gauge for the U+, but boy did it make the fight a lot easier to be able to blink out of every single shadow flare and dreamstage the pandora's boxes' damage (and thus have blink ready for the shadow flares). And I still lost two medals for damage taken. No one died though, so mastery it was! The worst part of wall is how a lot of things seem tuned towards having it native. Couldn't it have just been +100% instead? Maybe after tonight though...maybe... Time to initiate the U++ plan. E: I guess full synergy 5* armor would work too in place of wall. But I don't have that either!
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 23:47 |