Kilroy posted:

The Democratic party of 2008 was considerably more centrist than now, to the point that the center of gravity of the party has probably shifted left of the sitting President, whereas the party was to the right of Obama when he was elected.

The Blue Dogs got their asses handed to them in 2010. They are no longer a going concern. No one remembers who Joe Lieberman is except for like a dozen or so people including myself who are under the effects of a curse.

If the Democrats control the government after this election (i.e. if they take the House) we'll get single-payer - count on it.