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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > The Second Presidential Debate, or a Televised Suicide
 
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Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Kilroy posted:

The Democratic party of 2008 was considerably more centrist than now, to the point that the center of gravity of the party has probably shifted left of the sitting President, whereas the party was to the right of Obama when he was elected.

The Blue Dogs got their asses handed to them in 2010. They are no longer a going concern. No one remembers who Joe Lieberman is except for like a dozen or so people including myself who are under the effects of a curse.

If the Democrats control the government after this election (i.e. if they take the House) we'll get single-payer - count on it.

You're honestly delusional. The party that just primaried out Alan Grayson for Patrick Murphy and chose Hillary Clinton to be the third term of Obama hasn't shifted left. There's no chance of single-payer. Remember that Obama pulled public option off the table in July 2009 for $155 billion in payment reductions over ten years from hospitals and lied about it for months afterwards.

Third way democrats will never ever pass universal health care. Doesn't matter how many of them are in office. Their corporate owners won't allow it.

Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Oct 11, 2016

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Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Pakled posted:

Alan Grayson got primaried out because he beat his wife, not because he was too liberal.

Keep telling yourself that.

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