7c Nickel posted:

This also seem ripe for high quality expansions. There are a tons of awesome historical warriors you can mine for 4 flavorful characters per side. Romance of the Three Kingdoms era China, the Mughal empire, hell, let's get some Pacific Northwest warriors out on the battlefield with 50 pound solid hardwood helmets tough enough to deflect bullets.

Evil Canadian posted:

Not a lot of black/african warrior archetypes in popular culture to put into a videogame, versus say you know, knights samurai and vikings.

Either now-ish or later on in the night anyone free to help me test a thing or two on ps4? Just do some duels and test how certain interactions work. Also maybe we can get a domination group going for tonight or the weekend.

*ed*

Also yes, the best way to get better is to lose, winning does not teach you poo poo. This applies to fighting games generally but it definitely applies to this game as well.

Zzulu posted:

How many viking classes can you even make

This guy has an axe! THIS guy has a bigger axe!! THIS guy has two axes!! THIS GUY HAS TWO BIG AXES :O

Chomp8645 posted:

The Faction War probably solidifies a three faction system.

What is more likely is that they do the Extremely Obvious Thing and take advantage of the cataclysm present in the lore. Oh look, after this here volcano storm or whatever, survivors from Not Rome have made it to our lands! They have joined forces with the Knights faction. Meanwhile, the Not Egyptians have thrown in their lot with the Samurai!

Stuff like that.

Chomp8645 posted:

lol.

Listen, I like this model. I really do. I think it's better than what is on offer from just about any other AAA publisher right now. I believe it to be a very fair compromise between the Ideal Model as imagined by your average corporation versus your average consumer. But telling people who just spent full retail on a product that they are lucky they aren't being strong armed into additional purchases is really getting into some "thank you sir, may I have some more" territory.

Trillhouse posted:

Dominion mode (the 4v4 mode) was kind of a shitshow in closed beta. A single good player will who knows how to use revenge mode well will tip the entire balance in his team's favor. It definitely had the least skilled players on average compared to 2v2 and duels. Expect a lot of people using the one combo they know is good for their class (see: Peacekeepers with the guard break into triple stab) or loitering near ledges to throw people off. Or running away unless they outnumber you. So until people get a lot more experience I doubt team comp will matter too much. Play whatever you think is fun.

Sultan Tarquin posted:

The closed to open patches didn't actually go live. Peacekeeper 3x stab still does half your HP bar.

Feindfeuer posted:

You can't block guard-breaks like the shield bash, that would make them pretty useless. Dodge the shield bash, or any other guard break, and than hit them in their stupid face... or the side/back of their head.

Perestroika posted:

You gotta love it when people run and very conspicuously stand next to a cliff, because they can't hack it in a regular fight. Just makes it even more satisfying when they get their comeuppance:
http://i.imgur.com/TZz3OKU.mp4

Also, I'll never get tired of this bug:
http://i.imgur.com/lLxMDlf.mp4

Panzeh posted:

I'd love to see a 1v1 lobby mode yeah. I think this game is pretty much made for 1v1 fighting, the other stuff.. is probably better in a game like mount and blade.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

So uh you just press the guard break button to counter opponent guard breaks right? I was told it was heavy attack by a friend and i've not been having any success.

Kilometers Davis posted:

So how is this game if I love historical sword whacking and only care about playing against AI.

ScratchAndSniff posted:

Loved the beta, but I'm worried for the game's long term staying power. Hopefully it will do a good job matching players of similar skill levels once they do the full release. That will make or break it long term IMHO.

I pre-ordered because I'm a sucker for any game that lets you stomp people as a viking.

Wandle Cax posted:

wow seemed like last time I checked the map was mostly green samurai zone.

panda clue posted:

I literally think this is what did it, hilariously enough. god dammit i hate the internet

panda clue posted:

that article triggered me so hard. gamingjournalism.txt

Alkydere posted:

Just wanna say that megaposts about historical poo poo like this make any more awesome.

Still doesn't help the fact that the Japanese Islands were very iron poor. The South American tribes had the same issue really, which is why for "swords" they would often use what was called a Quecha (I probably spelled that wrong). Basically a paddle with obsidian shards on the edges for cutting edges. Works really damned well...until the Spanish come rolling along armored in iron hats and curaisses, and armed with steel swords and smallpox. Volcanic areas just aren't great for iron.


That's because plate armor such as that was designed to defend against swords in general. It's why you'd have peasants using hammers and maces. Also why as discussed last night you'd have Knights grabbing the blade of their swords in their gauntletted hands to bludgeon each other with the weighted pommels and crossguards of their swords (like with the Warden's executions) as make-shift hammers.

Dreylad posted:

Also worth noting that the Spanish actually ditched their armour in favour of the Incan heavy cloth armour when Pizarro made his push south. It wasn't even really about one group having better technology than the other; the Spanish and Portugese were fighting in an environment that was completely alien to them, while the Americans' weapons and armour was adapted to the environment.

Psycho Society posted:

It shouldn't be ignored that in many cases Europeans did in fact go the old "slaughtering of peoples" genocide route as well. Like in Haiti.

Alkydere posted:

From what I understand, the Black Death/Plague was actually rather light compared to the effect Smallpox had on the native Americans. The plague could kill half to 2/3 of a European city. Smallpox would destroy closer to 95% of some native settlements. There was literally no resistance. A lot of what the settlers to the new world would see weren't so much the representatives of what they'd see 20, 10, or even 5 years ago. They were the Mad-Max survivors of a literal apocalyptic event.

1500 posted:

Lawbringer on the other hand really looks disappointing, seems many of his moves are 4-5 action sets. There is no way you are going to get that far into his combos.

Hypha posted:

But Bloodborne was so pretty. It has a spear with a gun! It was like my two favourite weapons all in one package.

Perestroika posted:

Aw man, Lawbringer is still kinda garbage.

Sultan Tarquin posted:

Here's a dumb loving thing Ubisoft did. They combined the Elimination and Skirmish queue. Skirmish is like Dominion except without any cap zones and it's not fun at all. There's no way to queue for one or the other you can set your preferred mode but if it drops you into a skirmish when all you want to play is Elimination lol get hosed.

Haroshia posted:

I take back most of the good things I said about him.

Haroshia posted:

He's like the Warden if the Warden was bad. His damage primarily comes from huge telegraphed directional combos. The risk of parrying just doesn't have enough reward. Basically he has to set up unblockables with light>heavy>heavy. That's two big chances to parry. Light doesn't chain into heavy fast enough to get around players that aren't poo poo. To add insult to injury rather than just letting him parry from any direction into an unblockable he can ONLY do that on an overhead. His side attacks are parryable spear pushes that although cool as gently caress looking are like a much harder to set up Raider tackle.

As far as I can see the best thing about him is the shove from block draining the gently caress out of their stamina and stopping combos, but a parry does that AND has more punish for other classes. I just don't see his purpose besides being awesome.

I'll keep maining him until I hate myself

Haroshia posted:

Except the telegraph and timing for his poo poo in that is so obvious you can still parry it all. He can't do an unblockable side attack combo while the stun is up, and his overhead makes Kensai's overhead look positively speedy. You can still parry unblockables while stunned.

Promontory posted:

Hey, thanks for the tip! I've actually seen that sheet before and have been trying to play according to my "role", but so far the overall experience has been, well, ballchasing. Maybe the teamplay will improve as more people start playing in a more tactical sense?

So far my favourite Dominion map has been the one with three hanging bridges leading to C. Guarding it as a Shugoki by barreling at people trying to cross compensates for the waiting.

TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:

Wow this playerbase is getting toxic fast. Is this normal for fightin games?I've been called every racial slur ever in several languages.

You either die a fag noob or live long enough to become jew hacker

Double Monocle posted: