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Roosevelt posted:i have a web application built on node, and it's reversed proxied thru nginx because having node being its own production server is single-threaded shitheap. that's my story bye node is not single threaded
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GenJoe posted:node is not single threaded i am literally this person and the "less-than-expert" programmer that this piece is talking about : quote:If you're using Node, there's a 99% probability that you are both the developer and the system administrator, because any system administrator would have talked you out of using Node in the first place. So you, the developer, must face the punishment of setting up this HTTP proxying orgy if you want to put a real web server in front of Node for things like serving statics, query rewriting, rate limiting, load balancing, SSL, or any of the other futuristic things that modern HTTP servers can do. That, and it's another layer of health checks that your system will need. i don't know poo poo and i'm aware of it
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node is bad but of the p-lang based web application frameworks it is probably the best. if you just don't give a poo poo and want to make a one-off thing that scales reasonably well then node is pretty alright.
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GenJoe posted:node is bad but of the p-lang based web application frameworks it is probably the best. if you just don't give a poo poo and want to make a one-off thing that scales reasonably well then node is pretty alright. Yo I think the terrible programmer thread is that way ->
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Captain Foo posted:Yo I think the terrible programmer thread is that way -> which is your preferred web application framework
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Roosevelt posted:which is your preferred web application framework comedy answer: java ee just let me fire up the ol weblogic here
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Roosevelt posted:which is your preferred web application framework I don't dev webs
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Roosevelt posted:which is your preferred web application framework mod_perl
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atomicthumbs posted:mod_perl mojolicous::light for single file web applications (lol) sinatra to quickly deploy bullshit i don't care about
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GenJoe posted:node is bad but of the p-lang based web application frameworks it is probably the best. if you just don't give a poo poo and want to make a one-off thing that scales reasonably well then node is pretty alright. What the gently caress. I'd rather toss it in heroku. also: Winkle-Daddy posted:We called this CGI, and it was a good way to do business until the micro-optimizers sank their grubby meathooks into it.
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i am nostalgic for the days when javascript was laughed at as the terrible, unsanitary bandaid that it is
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i long for the days when you could load a webpage that didn't have 20 different script tags in it or for the days when you could view a page without the javascript at all. now if you disable it half the websites you visit just say "please enable javascript" if they show anything at all
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Dr. Honked posted:i recently went down the hatred hole of typescript I would like to hear more about this experience
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Clockwerk posted:I would like to hear more about this experience
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ah yase the good old days when the user had to ask for a new page just to let the server know he was still there
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java script bad
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Gazpacho posted:ah yase the good old days when the user had to ask for a new page just to let the server know he was still there you dont need javascript for that
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https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-Javascript/blob/master/README.MD
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Oct 21, 2016 05:16
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awesome, got a static HTML turing machine too?
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this thread went from "yeah node does have serious problems" to full-blown retards complaining about how the web was better when every button press had to load an entire page seriously just browse with lynx if you're such a crybaby. the rest of the web won't miss you
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press the refresh button to refresh
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Gazpacho posted:awesome, got a static HTML turing machine too? actually yes
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go play outside Skyler posted:this thread went from "yeah node does have serious problems" to full-blown retards complaining about how the web was better when every button press had to load an entire page lol aww someones all riled up!!
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go play outside Skyler posted:this thread went from "yeah node does have serious problems" to full-blown retards complaining about how the web was better when every button press had to load an entire page generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle
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Captain Foo posted:generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle
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Captain Foo posted:generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle
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Captain Foo posted:generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle savage
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Captain Foo posted:generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle
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Captain Foo posted:generally, people don't sign their posts in the middle
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yeah cause i wanna write a loving shitload of javascript pig latin in css, sign me up
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:a miserable pile of secrets
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node.js users seem pretty insufferable https://github.com/golang/go/issues/17608
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like, how much of an rear end do you have to be to have go users calling you out. lmbo!
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if you don't want to be abstracted away from the nitty-gritty of servicing http requests and rather enjoy poor performance, i introduce to you the next-level alternative to node.js: cgi cgi is so loving awesome btw
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as we all know, anything written in c is always better and faster. did you know what is written in c - warning: this might shock you, only proceed at your own risk. you have been warned - NODE . JS!!!!!!!!!!!! im shocking myself writing this. did you know node.JS is actually GOOD?
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hmm, doesn't cgi work by spawning a process for every single request?
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indeed, so in principle it is more scalable than node.js but, yeah, it was too expensive mostly, it spawned a process, you get post data on stdin, stdout gets sent to the browser, and the url and query parameters are put into environment variables. was super-convenient if your web app amounted to concatenating up a few files with tiny modifications according to some parameters though. certainly had more merit than node.js (by virtue of apache running the show if nothing else)
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