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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:wanted to make a post about this concept because i see similar comments on a LOT of the comics in thread, but i couldn't really get out what was in my head today. maybe it's the constant rain, maybe im hungry, maybe i'll post about it some other time, maybe someone else will kick it off if they get the same feeling and i'll just add to the discussion if it takes off. Oh, just saw this. I think there is something to it. In a lot of stories, the mains aren't allowed to be as interesting as the side characters because the writer wants them to be likable and relateable. I don't have an opinion on if your mains being someone the viewer can project onto is bad- it can be done well or poorly- but I do think a pitfall is that it can make them feel blander than the rest of the cast. Another, potentially related thing is making sure your mains are heroic can tend to shuffle them into a role where they are very familiar. A poor Superman writer will write a Superman where we always know what he's going to do or how he'll react to conflict, but a secondary guest hero or villain might do something more interesting because they don't have to be The Lead Hero of the Superhero Story, if that makes sense? A third thing is sometimes a side character has a conflict or hook that makes them interesting, but it wouldn't make sense for the story to spend a huge chunk of it's time with them. Cassidy, I think, and also Mark, are examples in Sleepless Domain. Mark's outsider status would radically change the story if the writer made him a major PoV character, altering the reader's experience of the city and potentially defusing mysteries about the setting. Whereas Cassidy had to go to serve a narrative purpose, the flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long, etc etc. The last one is, the mains may begin to feel predicatble because we, the audience, know them better than the other characters. Ancillary characters thus become more interesting out of unfamiliarity and novelty. This is all just like, my feelings based on very little else, no like literary theory or anything, so I might be talking out of my rear end. I do enjoy thinking about narratives and stories and what makes them tick, though!
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# ¿ May 11, 2023 21:21 |
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2024 01:49 |
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It's fun to draw the human form posing and contorting.
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# ¿ May 12, 2023 00:53 |
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:
Yeah and I imagine it's a lot easier to try something weird and novel if you know you aren't commiting to having it around for the whole story. In terms of Sleepless Domain specifically, I think it's really picking up now that Tessa/Goops is getting more focus because Undine and HP are fairly typical reactive heroines, whereas Tessa/Goops is making things happen quite aggressively. If the comic was all published at once, it'd probably work out to a pretty good push and pull in terms of pacing, but the nemesis of the longform webcomic is being released page by page over years. You gotta commit to writing for the archive or writing moment to moment, and there is no perfect solution.
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# ¿ May 12, 2023 00:57 |
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Snake Maze posted:DEMON EATER All I can think of is the game Spore
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# ¿ May 12, 2023 04:00 |
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I tend to say writer when I'm talking about the narrative and artist when I'm talking about the art. Some people use 'creator', I guess.
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# ¿ May 13, 2023 01:23 |
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I love that not only is it a robot clone of Yuuyake, she's given it angry eyebrows. A neat little touch on Yuuyake's very serious personality and her more dramatic one-- it feels natural that Hazakura would have this larger than life mental image of her mannerisms. Also, it's pretty funny.
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# ¿ May 28, 2023 03:54 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:I'm always confused by reading Joey's Special Experience slept through the ending panels, but today I am the most confused Joey is engaged to Esidisi and Wammu, but his blonde friend wants to marry him. Even though he's not as great as a small footballer. Very simple, really. In all seriousness, it's wild how these always manage to kind of accurately convey both what happened in the un'translated' scenes and the tone of Jojo.
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# ¿ May 29, 2023 04:26 |
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:
Its amazing how I can hear him yelling "OOOH NOOO" in my head just looking at this panel.
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# ¿ May 31, 2023 03:06 |
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God, I love White Chain.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 18:32 |
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Ditocoaf posted:The Adventures of Dr. McNinja - Issue #4: "D.A.R.E to Resist Ninja Drugs and Ninja Violence" It's delightful to be pulled back into Dr. McNinja after all these years and find it's still very funny.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 20:53 |
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It turns out the secret to absurdist humor is to be as good at humor as you are at the absurd.
mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 21:33 on Jun 3, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 21:23 |
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Tunicate posted:Basically I liked "the most radical man in the radical land" as a fun phrase early on. And less so when there was an actual physical radical land I thought it went on too long but i liked the post apocalyptic dino future so who can say if its good or bad
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2023 00:47 |
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Giant Ethicist posted:Extremely obscure, yeah. Q-Rais is basically a "pretty successful webcomics artist" (he's got like 300,000 followers on Twitter) but I haven't really met anyone who wasn't already keyed in to the Twitter and Instagram comics world who really knew who he was. Even then, the pink rabbit and the sad bear are what he's known for. He's popular enough it I remember it being a moderate deal that he illustrated a Pokemon card, though. Edit: https://twitter.com/PokeGuardian/status/1170020196196724737 mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 02:31 on Jun 13, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 13, 2023 02:28 |
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I'd love to see more Qrais pokemon : )
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2023 02:34 |
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See White Chain break out into a big smile melted my heart. Has she even been able to smile like that before?
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2023 18:01 |
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Love Dr McNinja's banter with his Dad, it's my favorite part of this story on re-read.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2023 22:58 |
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I respect and enjoy the slice of life fantasy story of Shinozaki, but drat I kinda want a comic focused on the repository rebellion now.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2023 05:09 |
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At what point do you decide you have too many large invisible birds?
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2023 00:47 |
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I think everyone should be nicer to the horrifying worm god tbh So I'm on her side here
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2023 19:30 |
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All you had to do was say one nice thing to the worm lady!
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 14:48 |
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Giant Ethicist posted:TBH I don't feel equipped to comment on that, but it also feels like it'd be odd to just ignore it and post my comic. Anyway, here's Monya the Grey chapter 7: Rereading Monya and experiencing all the foreshadowing is always something.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 14:49 |
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Something I like about Monya is that on reread it's packed with hints about what is coming, and the buildup of the darker tone is clearly happening all along.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 12:07 |
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Helldumping is when you remember things, it is known.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 16:52 |
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Monya sticks the landing, imo, when the comic ends.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 21:39 |
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fritz posted:The Monya tone shift works a lot better on a re-read when you can spot the (limited) foreshadowing. My favorite is the brief foray into the kingdom without color- just a brief dip into a much more melancholy tone, almost like a warmup.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 22:10 |
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Emzedoh posted:I don't remember if I commented on this earlier, but I too spontaneously generate stubble when I get caught for something. Not the warts though, that's weird. I love that the Good Witch in Monya is so totally inhuman.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 23:20 |
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Yeah, she's ultimately doing everything for the greater good, and you can't call her evil, sadistic, or malicious. But her perspective is just so divorced from a human one that she can sometimes come off as a monster. It makes her feel very alien, which I like in my powerful supernatural beings!
mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 02:16 on Jul 16, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 23:54 |
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I really hope someday I can buy a physical collection of translated Q-rais comics.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2023 23:17 |
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I was starting to be on team 'this fight is dragging' until the dick punch. I'm back on board now.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2023 01:16 |
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Man now I miss corn soup. It's good!
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2023 22:16 |
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Fagtastic posted:
I can't remember what these charts are actually called and my brain always helpfully supplies 'vulva graph'
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 13:57 |
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Tenebrais posted:Violin graphs, iirc. Which really feels like trying to find the first other suitable word when your brain is screaming vulva. Lol, it really does.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 14:02 |
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Kit Walker posted:See, I interpreted them as judging him for taking this path in the first place. Like, his family died as a result of brutal violence and conquest and his answer was to become a universal lord of violence and conquest. How many people have had their own families destroyed in Solomon's wake? And then in the end he's been reduced to using all his power "as you would an especially sharp rock." It is pretty pathetic I guess it depends on how self aware you read him as, in this moment. I could go either way. Or maybe a mix of both, I love when people's feelings are confused and contradictory.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 15:40 |
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For a guy who abandons all his comics that aren't big enough hits, Qrais still manages to be endearingly weird. You'd think the need to be successful/appealing would sand the edges off, but I'm glad it hasn't. edit: I hope this doesn't come off as a dig, I like Qrais a lot and I think he's creative and funny.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 21:11 |
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Giant Ethicist posted:To be fair, I am curating a bit. About 90% of is output is the "surreal cute animals stuff that sells well," like this: Hey I'm just glad he has time and energy for the weird stuff. I love the hotel comic in the BSS thread too. Also, I eat up his orange cat comics so I'm not too good for the commercial stuff either lol
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 23:59 |
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Kit Walker posted:
Also As A Gay I hate the idea that the existence of such tropes should mean bad things can't happen to gay characters in fiction, even death. That's not the point and it just locks gay people out of a lot of perfectly interesting stories! It's about being thoughtful in execution and making sure those aren't the only possible endings for gay characters in your body of work, which is a little more work than just Never Kill a Gay Character, admittedly. That said
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 14:11 |
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Totally valid to feel that way, it's just the thing I'm sick of is people treating specific tropes as buttons you just have to not press to avoid putting in work, and fans looking for reasons that any story development they don't like is Problematic actually. It's not fridging if a woman dies at the end of her own story in a woman focused comic, because fridging means a specific thing, and that's not 'any time a woman dies'. It's not Bury Your Gays if one gay character dies in a comic full of gay characters and others do get to live and have happy endings, because the whole point of that discussion is a trend where gay characters are systemically denied happy endings, not 'any time a character is gay and dies', and it's gotten to the point where you will see people trash good and interesting works, even by lgbt authors, for not checking the right boxes, whereas works that aren't letting their lgbt characters do much but also as a result they are relatively conflict free get a pass. To be clear, I'm not saying that's what your post is saying, Fagtastic. Your feelings and your post are perfectly reasonable. It's probably my twitter damage talking. Never read twitter, learn from my mistakes. mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 15:18 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 15:09 |
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vyelkin posted:most stories are improved by having a character who hangs around to call the protagonist a dumbass and for that reason I hope she comes back
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 15:23 |
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I don't even think it's Tumblr specific, except for the form it takes in borrowing concepts from social justice. I think it's just like, an eternal thing where fans learn a piece of media criticism and then, as you say, run off to use it as a cudgel. I've been seeing it in different forms as long as I've been aware of fandom, long before tumblr and the current trend of social conciousness.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 15:42 |
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2024 01:49 |
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Boba Pearl posted:Trying to gather my thoughts on this, but I think that people give too much credence to something for being miserable, like they've taken the idea of eating your vegetables to mean far more then it should. Kill 6 Billion Demons highs are marred by being in a permanent state of misery, where every enjoyable moment is overshadowed by some looming threat or awful thing, it only ever revels in taking, never letting the positive moments breathe. And that's what people want and I get that. I really do, people want to be miserable, anything happy is dismissed as light and fluffy and childish, and the mature poo poo always means dark and terrible. Mature people can live happy lives, and wallowing in misery isn't a sign of maturity. It's the just the kind of childishness people grow out of when they're 16 rather than 12. All I can say is that it the story doesn't make me experience misery and I don't think it's a problem for you not to like it or want to engage with it, but it's also true that there is nothing wrong with people who enjoyn it and aren't affected the same way. It's as rude to psychoanalyze people this way as it is to accuse people of being childish for enjoying fluffier fare.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 19:54 |