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FizFashizzle posted:Remember when people thought Trent baalke was good lmao Kaepernick was balling and the defense was insane and that Oline was incredible. Hell, they starting running up the score by taking injury guys in the draft just because they had the depth to do so. I mean it's all great pending your QB doesn't stay woke and your Oline doesn't fall apart and your LBs don't retire en masse and none of your injury picks pan out and scare off your elite HC
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go go go go ROSCOE! posted:Ryan Pace strikes me as the kind of GM who would pull such a move
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Diva Cupcake posted:At best they'll get like a conditional 6th that could become a 5. He sucks. Maybe I'm overvaluing Torrey Smith because my team is trying decide which practice squad member to promote to starting receiver this week, but I'd give up a fourth for him without thinking twice.
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fsif posted:Maybe I'm overvaluing Torrey Smith because my team is trying decide which practice squad member to promote to starting receiver this week, but I'd give up a fourth for him without thinking twice. for a fourth rounder you gotta hope you can find a disgruntled WR and get back something like Brandon Marshall or Randy Moss. no way should you spend a 4th on a 27 year old, mediocre WR.
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indigi posted:for a fourth rounder you gotta hope you can find a disgruntled WR and get back something like Brandon Marshall or Randy Moss. no way should you spend a 4th on a 27 year old, mediocre WR. I would give up a first-rounder for 2007 Randy Moss. I don't think that's a realistic bar to set for fourth rounders. I just looked at Smith's contract, though, and no, I would not want to give up a fourth for his cap hit.
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FizFashizzle posted:Remember when people thought Trent baalke was good lmao Only idiots thought this. I was saying for years his ACL picks were rotting the team from the inside out and his insistence on a billion 4th round or later WRs and CBs was terrible. Edit: and he did fight Harbaugh on Kaepernick and his good draft picks were all McCloughan cheat sheet picks (Davis, Iupati, Bowman). He inherited a helluva squad then immediately tried to zig so hard he got AJ Jenkins. Also the entire 2012 draft. The whole thing. Top to bottom. Spoeank fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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fsif posted:I would give up a first-rounder for 2007 Randy Moss. I don't think that's a realistic bar to set for fourth rounders. A first rounder for Randy Moss coming off his 2006 season in Oakland would have been bananas. He was a 30 year old speed receiver who had been dealing with nagging injuries over the last three years. The only team at that time that would have been crazy enough to trade a first rounder for Randy Moss would have been the Oakland Raiders.
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WHOOPS posted:A first rounder for Randy Moss coming off his 2006 season in Oakland would have been bananas. He was a 30 year old speed receiver who had been dealing with nagging injuries over the last three years. The only team at that time that would have been crazy enough to trade a first rounder for Randy Moss would have been the Oakland Raiders. Well, yes, I know. My point was that a fourth-rounder being valued at Randy Moss or Brandon Marshall is misleading because they ended up being historically great trades.
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My Jason La Canfora alarm went off. Just chiming in to say screw that guy, I hope he gets fired and has to serve up hot takes for hot soup.
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Quick reads: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2016/week-7-quick-readsquote:I'd like to thank NFL Research for doing my job for me: Osweiler's 3.2 yards per pass attempt vs. Denver is the third-fewest in a single game by a player with 40-plus attempts in the Super Bowl era. The only players worse than Osweiler: Jesse Palmer and Bruce Gradkowski. Other names in the bottom ten include rookie Peyton Manning and Joe Flacco and Eli Manning in the years they won Super Bowls, so let's not bench Osweiler just yet. On the other hand, it was Osweiler's third game this season with at least 40 passes and fewer than 5.0 yards per attempt. Since the birth of the AFL in 1960, only one quarterback has thrown so many passes with such little efficiency more often in a complete season: Joey Harrington, who did it four times in his second season in 2003. Osweiler is one game away from that record and it's not even Halloween. Feels like the bottom for DYAR is just a giant pile of suck this week.
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Ehud posted:wouldn't rule out the dolphins inquiring on me to come play LB Gunna send my saint thomas aquinas hs football tape over.
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Kalli posted:Quick reads: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2016/week-7-quick-reads Bradford and Wentz both got significant opponent adjustments and still finished with negative DYARs 
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WHOOPS posted:Bradford and Wentz both got significant opponent adjustments and still finished with negative DYARs The defenses are good and they both were bad. Becoming more suspect more often of Football "Air Yards" Outsiders, although I suppose it's mostly Cian Fahey and Scott Kacsmar, who won't stand up to even the tiniest amount of legitimate scrutiny in their analyses. They'll just block you rather than have a discussion, even when they run a follow up article that runs counter to hypotheses.
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tbh I was impressed with Wentz in that game. he had a couple rookie picks and held onto the ball too long at first, but kept his composure and never looked rattled. he even gave Kelce a talking to on the sidelines about the snaps without flipping out, and when he had the opportunity to make plays, he did. he never looked like a world-beater, but after the first quarter I think he looked about as well as you could expect a rookie to look against that defense.
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Abugadu posted:N: Packers put Abbrederis on IR, bring up Geronimo Allison. Abby is probably done, I think. The IR isn't because of a serious injury but he was going to be out for a few games and they wanted to free up a roster spot without cutting him. But he's been injured so much in the past three seasons, I don't think his body is capable of withstanding the rigors of playing in the NFL.
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Badfinger posted:The defenses are good and they both were bad. Cian Fahey is a loving baby who would trade Stafford for Bradford straight-up.
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Cian Fahey is a hot take cannon who chooses to die on the most random hills (Tanne, for example). He also shows one random RG3 throw from before he broke and goes "you're basically functionally retarded if you don't want him as your QB" then blocks you if you disagree.
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Kalli posted:Quick reads: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2016/week-7-quick-reads
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/790942430036127744 Sheldon Richardson to the Colts for a 1st and Brandon Marshall to the Chiefs for a 2nd. I take those both immediately.
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Diva Cupcake posted:https://twitter.com/SInow/status/790942430036127744 I guess I would trade him for a 1st but watching be an all pro somewhere else for 6 years isn't really going to be fun.
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No Butt Stuff posted:The hell are the Chiefs gonna do with Brandon Marshall? How has Jeremy Maclin been this year? Wide open and not thrown to?
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Spoeank posted:Cian Fahey is a hot take cannon who chooses to die on the most random hills (Tanne, for example). He also shows one random RG3 throw from before he broke and goes "you're basically functionally retarded if you don't want him as your QB" then blocks you if you disagree. Yeah but he is right about Tannehill. Also good luck arguing with that accent.
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Are the Jets pressed for cap space? Otherwise it's idiotic to trade away a 25 year old burgeoning star for a first round pick so you can gamble on drafting a young burgeoning star.
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Chiefs WR corps is turning out pretty decent this year. Maclin has seen his targets fall because guys like Conley and Tyreek Hill are turning into pretty good WRs. Brandon Marshall is better than all 3 of them but its not a huge need or anything.
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Spoeank posted:Cian Fahey is a hot take cannon who chooses to die on the most random hills (Tanne, for example). He also shows one random RG3 throw from before he broke and goes "you're basically functionally retarded if you don't want him as your QB" then blocks you if you disagree. All he says is that Tannehill is good (he says the 10-14 range IIRC) when he's protected 
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Like remember when Percy Harvin was traded for a first round pick? Putting Harvin's personality and team-fit issues aside for a moment, the Vikings used that first round pick to draft Percy Harvin's replacement, who went on to bust after several years of coaching and investment. First round picks aren't as valuable as young players who are confirmed to be actually good at football. The calculus changes if that player isn't essential to your team, or if you plan to turn that pick into a player at a different position (say, quarterback), but I'm not under the impression that the Jets defensive line is particularly deep...
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Brannock posted:Are the Jets pressed for cap space? Otherwise it's idiotic to trade away a 25 year old burgeoning star for a first round pick so you can gamble on drafting a young burgeoning star. It's a waste and we'd be better served turning him into a top pick that can be used on the secondary, offensive line, or packaged in a trade up for a QB. Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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a neat cape posted:The AFC West continues to be the best division in the NFL by far its not even close
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a neat cape posted:The AFC West continues to be the best division in the AFC by far Gynecolojustice posted:its not even close 
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Brannock posted:Like remember when Percy Harvin was traded for a first round pick? Putting Harvin's personality and team-fit issues aside for a moment, the Vikings used that first round pick to draft Percy Harvin's replacement, who went on to bust after several years of coaching and investment. The Vikings used that pick to draft a shut down corner, then gave up a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounder to draft a future Hall of Fame Kick Returner/Gunner, please get it right 
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:How has Jeremy Maclin been this year? Wide open and not thrown to? Eh, he gets targets, but not a ton. We're a run first offense if things are firing well, and our WRs are definitely way better than they have been. I see no point in investing in Brandon Marshall by the Chiefs, even if we did want to take the cap hit.
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