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The benefit of playing more half-court and slowing the game down is having Lebron less fatigued. Lebron who can only play at his maximum for 25 minutes can't beat the Warriors. 35? You have a chance.
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Bulls swept the heat in 2011 regular season How did that turn out
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Jun 7, 2017 15:14
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loving christ if this is how the bulls finally got melo, just like how they finally got wade
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Jun 7, 2017 16:00
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Who else did the Bulls miss on in 2011 that they can get Is Brandon Rush available Can OJ Mayo re-join the league
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Jun 7, 2017 16:44
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Thinking that the large majority of NBA Fans want a close game over popular players playing again and again is one of the more bubble-group thoughts
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Jun 7, 2017 17:25
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Lockback posted:Against the stellar defenses of early 80s regular season NBA. Also, the Warriors are outscoring a team that put up a 110.9 rating so I dunno what his point was
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Jun 7, 2017 22:01
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Is Ian Sjumpert the worst
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Jun 8, 2017 02:42
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Maybe don't have the tiny point guard have 13 rebounds
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Jun 8, 2017 04:52
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Redgrendel2001 posted:People hate the Yankees whether they're winning or losing. I mean people hate the Lakers now when there's been a generation of fans that grew up when they never been in the playoffs
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Jun 8, 2017 04:54
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That's the downfall of a jumpshooting league, games are random like football now. Cavs missed 15 open 3's in the corner by good shooters.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:01
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Tristan Thompson is trying to get lower and lower. 3 Rebounds for a rebound specialist.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:08
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All it takes is one injury. The Warriors need every single player alive just to win.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:11
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JR Smith knows it takes one bad fall from Curry to completely eliminate the Warriors. "Ooops, our floor cleaners just happened to not wipe the floor on time."
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Jun 8, 2017 05:16
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E2M2 posted:Man I thought with the Finals actually happening that the NBA fanfic hot takes would stop Sorry to pull this, but are you new to being a fan? I know you're not but did you really forget the last two years?
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Jun 8, 2017 05:19
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Niwrad posted:I think they still win 1 of the next 4 without Curry. I doubt it. Partly because Curry makes so many 3's and basically forces the Cavs to double-team off-ball every single possession and partly because he's probably their best or 2nd best rebounder and screener. Livingston can't play for 30+ minutes and Ian Clark is literally the worst defender in the entire finals rosters.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:24
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zoux posted:Are there certain fanbases that are demonstrably and objectively worse than others or are fans of losing teams just universally and equally sad sack whiners and winning teams smug pricks? Ask your fellow spurs fans
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Jun 8, 2017 15:44
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Is anyone willing to talk adjustments I think the Cavs have proved that they can run a Korver/Love court without losing too much defensively compared to their usual line-up, and as much as JR Smith is prone to fouling, his shot selection is infinitely better than Shumpert. So I think the Cavs should start small with Kyrie/JR/Shump/Lebron/Love to abuse the 5-6 minutes that Zaza plays and bring in TT when they go small or Frye if they bring in Javale because Kerr is a massive creature of habit.
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Jun 8, 2017 18:38
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Papercut posted:Cleveland looks poorly-coached to me. Everyone outside of Lebron (and maybe Love) has been making regular discipline/effort mistakes per game. Sucks for Lebron and for general fans who just want a good series. What? I argue the opposite. Lue's been getting excellent out-of-TO plays all series, and Kerr has been doing some terrible decisions like staying big and putting Ian Clark against Kyrie's minutes. If anything, Lue's been the better coach for recognizing how much the Warriors are dedicating to stopping TT from the boards and pull him for more shooting.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:29
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Love is like Kawhi Leonard on defense compared to Gallinari and Ryan Anderson
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Jun 8, 2017 20:05
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What about mark jackson, zogo
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Jun 9, 2017 00:20
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It would be fantastic if the Spurs give Bruce Bowen the hall of fame treatment but treat Parker like dirt.
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Jun 9, 2017 03:47
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Anyone else think the Cavs should start Frye or Korver in place of TT? They really need to punish the first 6 minutes of mandatory Zaza starting, because I feel part of Lebron's fatigue is him using up his Invincible Layup move too many times in the 1st half just to get buckets.
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Jun 10, 2017 00:39
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Like I said, the Cavs were just getting unlucky. Warriors defense has been pretty bad all series.
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Jun 10, 2017 05:03
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Either Iggy is really injured or Kerr's spine fluid is rotting his brain. 21 minutes of the small ball line-up, might as well only play Lebron 30 minutes for only an NBA finals game. I called it, Warriors played worse as soon as Kerr took over again with a billion turnovers.
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Jun 10, 2017 05:17
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This is why Kerr can't win a championship. He's too conservative and sticks with centers too much like he misses the sweet touch of Luc Longley every night.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:20
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Either outcome is good because it doubles down on the regular season literally meaning nothing for the next 10 years.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:23
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Plz stup
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Jun 11, 2017 03:29
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That post up into offensive rebound into already-double-teamed post up into fouls repeat for 10 years
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Jun 11, 2017 15:40
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Maybe prime Jordan/Pippen might be fast enough to play 48 minutes of athletic enough defense to chase an off-ball screen during a pick and roll. But then they would just attack whatever Center is on the floor constantly. And the point guards are too slow to handle speedsters.
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DeimosRising posted:
The most baffling takeaway from that Bogut injury and I will never understand it. Losing Bogut didn't make the warriors lose, it's replacing him with two lovely centers like Varejao and McAdoo instead of playing the perimeter players more minutes. Unless you want to admit Zaza is more critical to the Warriors now than Bogut was in 2016, then you might be in the right direction.
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Jun 11, 2017 17:58
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DeimosRising posted:You can't play Draymond at C for 35 minutes. He will foul out and get beaten up. The future is not small ball, it's big guys with handles and a jumper IN ADDITION to banging for rebounds, put backs, and post ups. The ideal modern center is not Draymond Green, let alone a perimeter center like Frye, but Jokic or Towns or Embiid. Those kind of guys, once they are in their primes, will eat Dray's lunch if he has to guard them extended minutes. You're taking this the wrong way. I'm not saying there's no place for good centers. I'm saying playing McAdoo and Varejao the time they did cost them the margin enough for the Warriors to lose. The same way starting Mike Bibby and Big Z for the 2011 Heat did in the NBA Finals. You shorten the rotation, not play 13 man rotations which is completely Kerr's style. Varejao does not defend, rebound, or score. He doesn't even box out. Playing Livingston 10 more minutes instead would be productive on some form of positive basketball.
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DeimosRising posted:But there's no one to defend the paint and absorb fouls. Lebron and Irving will just go at the rim and Love I'll post up Green or Barnes over and over and they'll wrack up fouls. You're daring the refs not to shorten your rotation even more by fouling Green out, and if you lose that bet and have to play Varejao WITHOUT Green at the 4, you're hosed Varejao and McAdoo were nowhere close to being able to foul on drives because they are bad at defense. In your situation, literally nothing helps the Warriors last year. They are hosed regardless, but are less hosed if they stop playing their literal worst players 12-15 minutes. Let's try to better understand each other: How does Varejao, Speights, McAdoo, and Ezeli stop people in the paint? Because they cannot. Your argument seems to be that they need filler minutes, I argue that those filler minutes are so detrimental that they are better off risking fouling out and being a little more tired down the stretch. The Cavs played 8 man in the final game because playing anyone outside of that core would've let the Warriors win. Spacebump posted:The Heat never started Big Z during the 2011 Finals. Bibby starting wasn't an issue until Carlisle made Barea one of the starting guards. Then again, Barea has never lost a game while starting in the Finals. Your right. I forgot they stopped starting Big Z in the conference Finals back when around Udonis Haslem rose from the grave and dunked on the Bulls.
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Spacebump posted:Looking at the free agency center list makes me really wonder who the Warriors can get for next season that won't be a downgrade from the Zaza/JaVale rotation. It really wouldn't shock me to see both of them gone. If Zaza wanted money, he could've gotten it. Same with Nene. They took a discount to join teams to ring chase while still wanting major roles. No one talks about losing David West, he's easily the 2nd best traditional Center on the team. Good passer, aggressive on post-ups for mismatches, can stretch the floor a bit. A shame he's not allowed to play in the 1st quarter. If anyone's joining the Warriors for the center spot, it's anyone that is willing to take the minimum and that could be anyone that's 32+.
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Jun 11, 2017 19:37
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Nba "star"
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Jun 12, 2017 01:18
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Joe Lacob would love a game 6. He gets like 12 million from seat revenue alone per home game.
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...I knew I forgot something was on tonight.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:59
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Holy poo poo, Kerr played Patrick McCaw over Ian Clark. Good for the rookie! Always my favorite.
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I'm assuming the actual game wasn't very good if there's already era talk.
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