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:boom: 38 17.35%
yes 34 15.53%
no 18 8.22%
maybe 22 10.05%
paging pagancow 40 18.26%
all of the above 24 10.96%
:same: 43 19.63%
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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
In.

2015, 2014.

I don't have too much room for books atm (college dorm room), but I like science fiction books and can pirate most books, so maybe save money on a book and send me a list of books you really liked? I like old and weird electronics, computers, radios, cameras, and so on. It is known that I like corgis but sending me an entire box of corgi-related merchandise might be too much (though the shirt jwoven had made for me last year still fuckin' owns). Art is neat if you make a art. Maybe send a liquor or low ibu beer because my alcohol experience extends to liking north coast scrimshaw pilsner and having had like 2 shots of fireball and 1 of garbage white rum and being a total lightweight. also no meat please i cannot eat it

(don't send Old Monk rum tho because my brother brought a bottle of that from india for me and i still have to go get it from him)

T-shirt size: medium

Pets: none, sadly. Mail me a puppy

Things not to send: please don't send me any of that good good dank stuff, as it is Illegal to smoke in the dorm.

thnknas

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Funhilde posted:

Should I participate this year?

Shirt points to yes.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Cocoa Crispies posted:

yeah, let's just say i ordered the raspberry pi with wifi and bluetooth built in

same except replace that with "have an 8x20 storage unit that could do with fewer things in it"

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
still pisses me off that the mealworm guy stiffed his santee instead of sending them an excellent or at least mildly funny gift

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

OSI bean dip posted:

Please do not send me any used (old) things as Mrs. bean dip would prefer this--we're trying to make some changes to our home.

what kind of strange person doesn't like every surface of their living space covered in obsolete electronics

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Jimmy Carter posted:

things that are cool:
oldest technology that has a TCP/IP stack


doot doot

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
the insect stiff isn't in this one is he

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

suffix posted:

this is our cute pet



give that bun a banana slice

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Valeyard posted:

why gently caress smythe?

let's let smythe answer that one

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ELYh6q-oA

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

eyy atomicthumbs

1a.) Are there any dead media formats you specifically do not want any/more of?
1b.) Similarly, any technology families that just aren't your jam or that you already have too vast a hoard of?

2.) Are you a coffee and/or tea drinker?

oh lord

1a.) I've had to limit my video tape collecting to things that I can specifically use in my art: i.e. unmarked/mysterious betacam tapes with potential raw footage, corporate promotional/internal videos on VHS, etc to avoid filling up the entirety of my storage unit. I'll take any cool poo poo you might want to throw my way, but remember I get infinite free VHS tapes of pretty much any mass-market media thing at work :v:
1b.) at this point... I'd say anything too bulky for the same reason (am currently living in dorm room). let's say avoid A/V equipment, old game consoles, and most old computers (I've got enough sparcstations, SGIs, macs, and amigas to cause issues when I need to move things around)

2.) I'm not a big fan of coffee, but I like tea and yerba mate. I've been planning to get a kettle or something so I can stop making it a cup at a time in my microwave.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Annual Gift Panda posted:

I was a professional ebayer for a while so I know how to package at least

remember to mark the gift "for parts or repair" so they can't dispute it as not as described when it doesn't work

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
i will be sending my gift after finals week is over so that I don't have a crappy gift and crappy finals

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
the av, is cute

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Cat Face Joe posted:



hi everyone just a reminder that the shipping deadline is coming up in less than two weeks. unlike previous years the only consequence is not the dampening of the yosmas spirit it's depressing of smythe's ban button. please make sure you ship on time because if there is unforseen delays, well...



i may need to ask for an exception, because finals

fortunately I may be able to avoid shipping altogether and just drop a gift on santee's doorstep

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Luigi Thirty posted:

aww man it takes proprietary NEC ~memory cards~ that are impossible to find

not pcmcia or jeida?

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

counterpoint: flux is a horrible loving mutagen and women should never, ever touch it.

Should I be worried about the bottle of liquid flux that spilled a bunch of ml in my ham radio/wires tub

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > YOSPOS > "YosMas 2016" is damaged

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

The glass stuff I was planning to send out got smashed when I got into a car accident,

:ohdear:

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Kuvo posted:

two candies ive never had before. will post back with trip report later


yesssssssssssss

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Kuvo posted:

trip report: coffee crisp is good where do i find more

cost plus world market

edit: report on the choward's violet.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Tatsujin posted:

You do this thing where if the word is longer than five letters they get smaller and smaller until they're indecipherable squiggles

i chose the thinnest pen imaginable to write my final in-class essays for my critical theory class in the hopes that my professor would be unable to read them

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

r u ready to WALK posted:

Norway :norway:

The insane shipping fees on old cast iron computers from eBay mean I have to dig around on the local alternatives. I hope I'll get lucky someday and find an old quadra 840AV or something, but people seem awfully quick to send their obsolete computers to the landfill here :mad:

At least I scored a pretty sweet PowerMac G4 MDD 1.3ghz wind tunnel for pocket change this year, and replaced all the fans so it's reasonably quiet without cooking itself.
OS9 sucks though, Apple removed support for compressed resource forks and broke over half of the After Dark screensaver modules.

here, too. sometimes the dismantlers at work gut a quadra 900 before I can get to it, and I weep inside

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
yo super nailgun I got 2/3 boxes so far and they own own own

waiting for the third to make the post, unless I shouldn't

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
oh my god

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

A pair of boxes!


whoops


there we go


hell yeah, thank you santee super nailgun bold name

i'll do these in order

Tech Floatsam

A data plate from an RAS-4 radio receiver, which appears (by the date) to have been installed in some navy ship in The War


said receiver set would've looked like this. the actual receiver part is a National HRO, an innovative high-performance shortwave receiver.

quote:

Some of National Radio's tool makers marked their overtime slips with HOR for "Hell Of a Rush." Management decided that a version of that abbreviation should be the name of the new receiver, choosing the slight alteration HRO to make it less objectionable. That was quickly countered by saying that HRO stood for "Helluva Rush Order".


a Computer Eyes Video Digitizer by Digital Vision. it's an ISA card (I think, or maybe an Apple II card considering the lack of bracket; super nailgun can you confirm?) with some video cables sticking off. it's not a frame grabber since computers weren't quite strong enough for that yet but if you pause your video it can digitize a frame of it, or (hopefully) do some super fuckin' weird stuff with moving video


A pair of Betamax tapes from a video jukebox (???) which I can digitize once I dig one of my Betamax VCRs out of storage and figure out if it works. I've done way more work with Betacam than with Betamax.

Stickers and Patches both Tech Related and Not


most excellent


a preview of what some stickers might look like once installed on computer. the post-it was written by our service manager at work (who rebuilds all our laptops and preps them for sale) and it says "Liquid Damage Sticky Keyboard + Liquid Damaged Battery - SCRAP" and I keep it on there as a purple heart for computer

A Drinking Mug Bearing One Of The Most Esteemed Brand Names Of The First Internet Bubble


WorldCom posted:

WorldCom’s aggressive growth strategy suffered a serious setback when, in July 2000, it was forced by the U.S. Justice Department to abandon its proposed merger with Sprint.[6] By that time, WorldCom’s stock price was decreasing, and banks were placing increasing demands on Ebbers to cover margin calls on his WorldCom stock that were used to finance his other businesses (timber and yachting, among others).

quote:

The fraud was accomplished primarily in two ways:
  • Booking "line costs" (interconnection expenses with other telecommunication companies) as capital expenditures on the balance sheet instead of expenses.
  • Inflating revenues with bogus accounting entries from "corporate unallocated revenue accounts".
In 2002, a small team of internal auditors at WorldCom worked together, often at night and secretly, to investigate and reveal $3.8 billion worth of fraud. Soon thereafter, the company’s audit committee and board of directors were notified of the fraud and acted swiftly: Sullivan was dismissed, Myers resigned, Arthur Andersen withdrew its audit opinion for 2001, and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) began an investigation into these matters on June 26, 2002 (see accounting scandal).


it changes color when warm! in it is one bag of yerba mate and one of black tea, because i can't drink coffee


while taking that photo I noticed I was being watched. the neighbor doesn't have turkeys. this is in the suburban bay area. what the gently caress

Also


The largest video cassette I've ever seen.

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jan 15, 2017

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
I've got a IIe, Monitor III, and Duodisk it should hopefully work nicely with someday. :getin:

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
fortunately I deal partially in screwed up

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Cocoa Crispies posted:

I think this is a game machine of some sort? There's an SD card in it.


!!!!! holy poo poo my fuckin middle/high school years (which uhhh this is weird: I have distinct memories of loving around with my GP2X in middle school, but I left it in early 2005, and the GP2X didn't come out until november 2005 in south korea according to wikipedia?)

I asked for one of these for my birthday in like 2005? can't remember

http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/gp2x.cgi here's your software archive

http://wiki.gp2x.org/ the wiki seems to have rotted a little but it still exists and all the info's there

I recommend sqdef, it's an extremely solid tower defense game. you'll want some high-powered rechargable AAs.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
Box three arrived!




it's authentic cisco









The gin is incredibly good. It's several times more enjoyable to drink than the three other liquors I've tried combined (fireball, captain morgan white rum, fireball with crystalized ginger dumped in it and left for three years, bulleit bourbon).

Here's my recipe for a hosed Up Tom Collins:

1. Pour the following into a measuring cup:
  • 2 oz gin
  • 3/4 oz honey, or close to it
  • 1/2 oz lemon juice, somewhat
2. Stir with a fork until the honey is pretty much dissolved as far as you can tell
3. Pour into water glass (no ice because there are no ice cube trays here, what the gently caress)
4. Fill water glass most of the way up with soda water
5. Hello. I’m Tom Collins, famous for typing more words than anyone wants to read. Today marks ten years of my time here, and I’d like to take a moment to reflect on it.

I’ve never been a good one for memories of ‘forum events’, so this isn’t going to be a retrospective of SA forums history. Really, that wouldn’t be interesting if you hadn’t been there, anyway. Who gives a gently caress who banned whom in 2003, or what fat goon flew to wherever to marry some other fat goon?

Sure, I remember stories of things that happened around here, but really until the creation of YOSPOS, I was just another goon. I had a very low postcount for my time here and no real recognition from any other posters. I used to be known as “Death Incarnate” – the name seemed cool when I was 14, but it got old fast.

Instead, it’s going to be my observations on forums themselves after ten years of posting on SA and other forums, and why I still choose to read and post here more than anywhere else. I'm crossposting it in YOSPOS and GBS to get two different perspectives on the issue. Thanks for reading.

6. Moderation is crucial.

Moderation is the backbone of a forum. Forums with weak moderation become rife with NWS content (where it isn’t wanted), inappropriate or lovely threads, spam, and other crap that makes the forum useless. Overly strong moderation leads to a culture of fear, because inevitably it leads to random bannings that are based on drama between users rather than on forum rules.

In the end, you need to have a core group of mods that are actually a little bit distanced from the posters, who can interpret the rules of each subforum correctly – with just enough “wiggle room” to allow good posters to get away with bending the rules, and to allow poo poo posters to be banned even if they haven’t outright broken one. They can’t fraternize with the posters too much, or they’ll start playing favourites, a surefire recipe for drama.

SA has done reasonably well on this count. I’m not going to name any names, but generally I’ve found the moderation here to be sane, and to deal with drama amongst themselves in an appropriate (and usually hidden) fashion. I don’t want this to be seen as me sucking up, so don’t take it that way – but note that I recognize SA as having had fairly consistent and balanced moderation for a decade, which most other forums can’t say.

7. Monetization of posters is just as crucial.

Forums are expensive to run. Server hardware and service contracts aren’t cheap; bandwidth isn’t cheap; administrative staff isn’t cheap; and when it’s something that takes enough of your time to be your fulltime job, it also needs to pay the bills, which isn’t cheap either. The king needs his tax.

Many forums resort to whiny donation drives, or switch to subscription models to keep the place running. I registered back when the forums were free, when the glory of the Dot Com era was still a warm enough memory that people thought it would be possible to support something of this size purely on advertising. It’s not, though.
Setting a basic price point on an account accomplishes two goals: it turns people into paying customers right from the start, so that they value their account. It also keeps out people who would just register new accounts every day, and thereby makes banning an actual punishment – you’re out your ten-dollar “investment”.

The further monetization, through platinum accounts, avatars, and the like, is good in that it offers users the choice of donating further for goods that have perceived value but cost the forums nothing to give. Letting people buy gifts – or insults – for other people turns the act of giving the forums money into an actual tool for social interaction, which is valuable.

The new cancer thing, well, people’s opinions are mixed on that. All I can say is that if it’s needed to keep the place running, and the admins feel it’s a good method for upping the quality of posts, then it’s a valid experiment. We’ll just have to watch and see how it goes. I was more in favour at first, but as of late it’s just encouraging RFA losers to come and post in good forums and poo poo the place up, which is the opposite of the intended purpose.

I’m just glad that this isn’t the kind of place where every other month a huge “DONATE!!!” sticky thread appears, and the same few people fling a few bucks at it each time to keep it going. Those methods aren’t sustainable over time.

8. Being a source of memes is fun, but it’s also debilitating.

The first big meme that SA launched (even though we didn’t actually start it) was All Your Base. SA always had a good group of photoshoppers, and PS threads were probably some of the funniest and best threads in the early days of the forums. AYB actually got some real-world fame, and since then we’ve always had a bit of a hand in perpetuating Internet memes.

Forum-specific memes are good because they allow new posters, once they’ve got a handle on the current memes, to contribute in a fashion that ‘fits in’ with established posters. On the other hand, it’s pretty annoying for a new person who nobody’s heard of to show up on a thread and post a loving fiestacat. Ultimately, they get run into the ground, and the best thing for everyone to do is to recognize when that happens and move on before it becomes too annoying.

Producing the really sticky sorts of memes that spread around the Internet today requires a faster-paced discussion medium than SA offers, however. When Moot left SA (well, whatever happened) and created 4Chan, he spawned a discussion format more conducive to making memes than SA is. If memes are made by throwing poo poo against the wall to see if it sticks, /b/ has the process down.

Really, it’s probably for the best that we’re not actively trying to be a source of memes; they get overplayed far too quickly to really be much fun. What lasts longer is having a culture of people that run with things – if someone posts a photoshop thread, having people around that want to run with the idea rather than shouting it down leads to a much more funny and enjoyable forum.

Thing is, it’s always going to be a lot easier to shout someone else’s attempts at humour down – heckling, essentially – than it is to actually go and produce your own attempts. When you do produce your own, you’re also running the risk of having others heckle you, so it can be a little daunting to try. A healthy balance of heckling and running with it is essential to maintain quality.

9. Specialized subforums are a mixed bag.

A long, long time ago, there were far fewer forums than there are today. I’m not going to give you a grand history lesson of what forums were first, mostly because I don’t really remember what order they all came in. But what’s important to note is that over time, the forums have become more and more “organized”. GBS used to be full of posts on every subject – from e/n to cars to computers to Photoshop to stories of people’s lives to short fiction to general hilarity.

I know it’s a tired old thing to say that “GBS used to be better”, but…. GBS used to be better. For me, it was the forum of choice for perhaps six of my ten years. I’d pop over to SH/SC or AI ever so often, but for a long time GBS had the humour and the freshness that made SA what it is.

Over time, though, things were broken out of GBS. There were too many car threads, so AI was created. Too many E/N threads, so E/N was created. And as each of these categories of posts was removed from GBS, you ended up with less material that was actually appropriate for GBS. What’s left? Posts based on news, subject-specific megathreads that are too small to sustain their own subforum, the occasional Photoshop thread.

It’s not terrible. It’s as good as the general boards of most other forums are. But it’s not what it once was, and I’ll miss the idealized GBS of my memory.

On the flip side of the coin, the subforums can be amazing. For example, AI is a bastion of good car advice, the hardest kind to find on the internet. They’re a great, close knit yet welcoming community. YOSPOS, my present home, is a fun community of FYAD-Lite shitposting that couldn’t really exist inside of any other forum. You can’t have that without breaking out of GBS, but once you break it out, you can’t have those posters, those jokes, and that spirit in GBS any more.

Maybe it’s inevitable that as the place grows, GBS slowly becomes a shell of what it once was. That’s fair, and really we should be glad that it’s still as relatively decent as it is… though sometimes the comments in there are pretty loving atrocious. We’ll get into that later.


10. Regdate bias is inevitable, but it’s pretty loving retarded.

It doesn’t really matter how long someone’s been around once the range is as long as it is here – it only matters that they’ve been around, lurking, for at least six months so they have the lay of the land. After that point, the gloves are off, and cool people will be recognized for being cool (and losers for being losers).

I’m sure I’ve tried to get respect for my regdate in the past, but it’s a misguided, weak attempt at an argument from authority. Just because someone’s older or been around a forum for longer doesn’t mean they know anything, or that they’re cool in any way. That has to be earned, by posting well and by making friends in the community. You can do that in two weeks if you’re good enough at it.

However, I gotta say, most of the ‘00s and ‘01s who have stuck around are pretty cool characters. There can’t be that many of us left. Cheers to those guys.


11. Don’t poo poo where you eat: piracy and porn are awesome, but it’s clear they had to go.

So there’s a seldom mentioned part of the forums history: DPPH, NMP3s, and the Bittorrent Barnyard.
You see, once upon a time, this place was a lot more liberal concerning file sharing than it is now. The porn forum, Don’t Post Porn Here, was first (back then it was mostly picture sets, none of these fancy movies!), and the music forum No MP3s Here followed. They were both quality forums with good posts, and the culture of file sharing on here was very condoned as long as it didn’t extend to software of any kind.
The Bittorrent Barnyard followed suit, utilizing external trackers but officially permitted for the purposes of sharing music, movies, and TV.

Not to get into any of the drama of it, but ultimately the decision was made that they had to go. I believe it was one of the wiser decisions the forums ever made, despite the fact that those subforums were a huge draw for new members. Keeping them around would have led to more drama and legal headaches than anyone would have wanted to deal with. Luckily, those forums and the communities in them have been completely and utterly destroyed without a trace, so we don’t have to worry about them anymore.

I think that any forum that wants to have quality discussion and humour does need to focus on those subjects, and avoid trying to be all things to all people. The influx of members onto SA who were here just for the file sharing forums resulted in tons of idiots who had clearly never used a forum before and were looking for some kind of Napster-like experience, leading to a lower quality posting experience for everyone else. Some of them have no doubt evolved into decent posters over time, and the rest have left or been banned. All in all, it was fun while it lasted.


12. Drama doesn’t profit anyone.

There’s a tendency for many humans in social interactions to blow misunderstandings out of proportion. Online, we lose the benefits of vocal intonation, facial expressions, and body language, which leads to a language barrier that can’t be crossed without either getting really wordy and really honest, or getting really good at reading between the lines. Realistically, people are bad at both of those.

Couple the tendency to go overboard with the lack of normal social graces caused by everyone being faceless behind their computers, and you can have a festering pool of flamewars and shitposting. Moderation can solve this, but only if the moderators are inhuman enough to be able to do it without rising to the trolls and their flamebait.

It’s important for people to take a step back before plunging headlong into some drama with their ill-informed ideas. Usually, people get this idea that they’ll be rushing to the rescue of a thread, like a well-read bouncer at a bar separating two combatants and solving their quarrel at the same time. In practice, they just stoke the fire and turn a two-way argument into a three way one, and perpetuate the problem.

I’m all for honest and in-depth discussion of an issue, but it’s crucial that people avoid ridiculous interpersonal arguments that don’t accomplish anything.


13. The Goon Stereotype isn’t true.

The Goon Stereotype is a 23-year-old fat white American male with poor hair, worse hygiene, and no sense of style. He has some form of autistic-spectrum disorder, possibly self identifying as Aspergers. He likes Anime, bad electronic music, and hacked-together electronics. He has no social skills, is a virgin, and masturbates three times a day to the worst pornography imaginable while eating Cheetos. He works a poo poo job, drives a poo poo car, and thinks he’s better than everyone else in the world.

Those goons exist. There’s probably hundreds of them. But most of us are just… people. A slice of society; there are hot people on here and horrible people, rich and poor, young and old. If anything, it’s far more diverse than anyone realizes, though understandably with a bias towards white or whitewashed Americans who are the target demographic.

It’s bad for us to have such a negative image of the average poster, because it can encourage people who don’t fit the stereotype to act as though everyone else is beneath them. Really, what does it matter who a person is in the “real world”, compared to what they post online? It would be better for us to judge more on a person’s projected character than on the insights it gives us to their real life, because ultimately they’re going to play the part they wish they could play every day but aren’t able to due to social inequalities.

I almost consider it similar to wearing a uniform in school – it limits personal expression, but it puts people on a level footing. We’re all wearing the Goon Uniform, like it or not; so it might be a good idea to stop assuming the uniform’s so terrible.


14. Getting “in” with a crowd of posters is actually really easy.

This one could have been called something like “IRC and forums go hand in hand”, because it’s true. An IRC channel for a subforum is like the behind-the-scenes spine that holds the thing together. Communities can form on forums themselves without anything else, sure, but the asynchronous form of post-wait-read-post doesn’t lend itself to human interaction in the same way that a real, synchronous chat like IRC does.
For forums that aren’t completely serious, like YOSPOS, people on IRC are generally ‘out of character’ compared to their forums selves. It’s almost like as though the forum itself is some sort of game, and the IRC channel is the discussion between people playing the game – one level more removed from the action of posting. You can easily have conversations with other people about themselves, and get to know them, and by doing so become part of the community in a way that you really can’t just by posting.

If you want to get “in” on a community, all it takes is posting, getting to know people, and getting into the IRC in order to really meet the different movers and shakers in the community that give it its particular character. Otherwise, you’ll only ever see the surface level that’s presented on the forums, and you’ll miss a lot of the undertext.

However, the forums have always traditionally had some level of bias against the corresponding IRC channels. This is probably because the IRC channels have never been official, and so they aren’t run and moderated by the same crew as the forums – leading to an alternate set of administrative types that have no official ties to the forums. Maybe there’s fear of “IRC cabals” or something, who knows. So far, my experience has been very benign, and I believe that a combination of realtime and asynchronous communication leads to a stronger community.

One caveat to this: you have to actually be a decent, likable person for this to work. If you're as much of an rear end in a top hat on IRC as you are on the forums, it's not going to make a bit of difference.


15. Caring and putting work into a post shouldn’t be shunned.

Last but not least. This is sort of a personal sticking point for me, and it’s sure as hell not SA-specific but the problem’s rampant here too.
I can understand not wanting to read some long rant or tirade that someone’s bashed out, especially if it’s formatted badly or if during your initial skim it seems uninformed or stupid. However, it’s important that we recognize when people put in effort, and respond to them appropriately. If they’re stupid – show them why they’re stupid, in as much detail as is needed. If they’re right – show them you’ve read it, and that you appreciate it.
It’s not always appropriate in every forum, but certainly it’s good to have people around that are willing to put some level of effort into things. We may never get a Goon Project off the ground, but as long as people keep putting effort into making quality posts, this place will always be strong. Like I said earlier, it’s always a lot easier to shout something down than it is to contribute to it… but if that’s all anyone ever does, there won’t be any reason for people to try anymore.



So that’s it, ten years of watching people post. We’re doing well. Keep doing well and I’ll be sure to look back on this in 2020. I’m looking forward to it.

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 28, 2016

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

CrazyLittle posted:

last but not least, optimus_rhyme should be expecting one more bit that his santa gave me a peek at, and it looks pretty cool but shipping would be... impractical. don't give up hope!

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
Fittingly, there's a slight setback on part of my gift, caused by Miniscribe

Edit: it seems to seek better after warming partway up to room temperature

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jan 2, 2017

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
as the rings have been posted, i'll announce it here: optimus_rhyme's gift is all ready to go, and I've talked to him and will be delivering the Gift as soon as the Bay Area Hell Storm ends so I'm not rear-ended by a thousand Priuses on bald tires as soon as I merge onto the highway

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.


The gift is out for delivery.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.


ho ho ho

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
oh my loving god I thought the hard drive was either dead or empty

lmao

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
The drive is a Miniscribe RLL drive (the non-XP models were MFM); the interface is SCSI. Your best bet, barring a newer Mac with Ethernet (though I have a few in storage that'd work for that at some point) is a bunch of floppy disks; a SCSI2SD would probably work fine too, but they're more expensive than floppies.

If I were you I'd make note of what temperature that room's at because apparently you've hit the sweet spot between "cold enough the tracks are out of alignment" and "warm enough that stiction keeps the spindle from moving." I was going to order you a floppy with System 6.0.8 on it but it looks like that's not needed!

I'm still working on getting an AC adapter for the Kaypro; I'll send it your way (via mail instead of mystery porch present drop) when I get ahold of it.

There's a 13W3-to-VGA adapter in the bag; you'll need a monitor that supports sync-on-green, IIRC. My Dell Ultrasharp does, but I'm not sure how common that is. The mouse in there is a PS/2 optical mouse because trying to use a ball mouse is a tremendous pain.

Your challenge now: find out if the Indigo boots (if not, the NVRAM battery is probably dead, which I could fix for you at some point), use the CD-ROM drive, the SCSI terminator, the included cables, and those IRIX CDs to reset the root password on the Indigo. Being that it came from Marin, it may have originally belonged to ILM or something.

http://nekochan.net is your friend when it comes to SGI information.

I have its twin, so if it refuses to boot I could eventually fire mine up and find out where yours is from too. That'd have to wait for my summer break, though.

I'll upload the video to Youtube so people can look at it without VLC. I don't know what I did to the encode, but Chrome sure hates it!

Edit: youtube hates it too. apparently google burns with hated for h.265. whoops.

also that SGI probably cost somewhere in the vicinity of $30,000-$40,000 when it was new

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Jan 10, 2017

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
also yeah listening to the video that drive is absolutely not supposed to sound like that

that'd be the heads stepping back and forth almost every time it tries to seek because it can't find the track

THEORETICALLY it ought to boot almost instantly but it's a miracle it works doing that

it shouldn't really get any worse, though, as long as you don't move the drive while it's spinning

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdTSaPs4U8

the vhs

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
If someone better at such things than me knows whether an UltraSCSI (PCIe) host adapter can interface with a SCSI-1 device through an adapter, that would simplify things in terms of being able to image the drive.

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