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DrProsek posted:Upside of the French election is my prediction yesterday didn't come true; I thought LePen would get 26% at least and Macron would underperform but it looks like that didn't happen at all. Polls basically predicted the result, no upset/last minute swell of support for LePen. good 2 know that the international milkdrinkers brigade has learned absolutely nothing from this event
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Condiv posted:who? also, calling on zdr to confirm i'm no-one's alt it was a joke
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a joke? is that allowed?!?!
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Baloogan posted:a joke? is that allowed?!?! only pro-donald trump comedy is allowed
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Baloogan posted:a joke? is that allowed?!?! not in my america
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Agag posted:We knew Macron sucks, but its impossible to duplicate how much Hillary sucked, so the polling was accurate this time.
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Agag posted:We knew Macron sucks, but its impossible to duplicate how much Hillary sucked, so the polling was accurate this time. True. He may be as bad politically as Hillary but he at least seems to be charismatic and is running for office in a country where running up the popular vote in big states/communes/departments/etc does actually increase your chances of winning. I think Brexit and Trump happening so close together has me/folks convinced polling is dead and the far right will just win on voter excitement/turnout but every other vote post-Trump has either been as the polls predicted or had the far right under-performing (see: Netherlands).
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DrProsek posted:been as the polls predicted or had the far right under-performing (see: Netherlands). Dangerous talk. Dutch outcome is far from ideal. Neoliberal won, fascist second and Christian conservative that explicitly wanted to go more right wing ended third. The hopeful for actual positive development is expected to get a pity-ministry in the new order. E: Wilders might have underperformed by global standards, but for national standards he was a major winner during the elections. Namarrgon has issued a correction as of 11:07 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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Namarrgon posted:Dangerous talk. Dutch outcome is far from ideal. Neoliberal won, fascist second and Christian conservative that explicitly wanted to go more right wing ended third. The hopeful for actual positive development is expected to get a pity-ministry in the new order. His party still gained more seats and new crypto-fascist party also entered parliament.
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And let's not forget the new AKP proxy party, Erdogan is pretty fascist too.
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World's going to hell, boys
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Entropist posted:And let's not forget the new AKP proxy party, Erdogan is pretty fascist too. justice and development are the ideals we should all strive for
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Namarrgon posted:Dangerous talk. Dutch outcome is far from ideal. Neoliberal won, fascist second and Christian conservative that explicitly wanted to go more right wing ended third. The hopeful for actual positive development is expected to get a pity-ministry in the new order. Oh absolutely, Wilders didn't underperform in the sense that the fascists did badly in the Dutch elections, just that their victory wasn't as large as had been predicted. The neolibs won while still bleeding seats, the Christian conservative party might find itself in a ruling coalition somehow, and while GroenLinks did kinda do really well relative to their past performance, the biggest parties in Netherlands are still dominated by either the lovely status quo that's clearly losing ground fast, and different flavors of more right wing alternatives. I only would say Wilders "underperformed" in the sense that "the polls said he'd gain X seats and become the biggest party. He gained far fewer than X and is not the largest party". It still means something but not some big win against fascism in Europe. Related to that, this Washington Post Hot Take is exactly the wrong Take on France/Netherlands: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...60e8_story.html Macron’s strong finish in the French election shows populist wave may be ebbing posted:After years in which the E.U. was the favorite foil for ascendant politicians on the continent, the 28-nation club may be making a comeback despite Brexit and President Trump’s euroskepticism. The Netherlands’ staunchly pro-European Green Left party quadrupled its support in elections last month. Former European Parliament president Martin Schulz is surging in polls ahead of September elections in Germany.
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I'm the person who thinks a 2 points lead in a 5-way race is a commanding majority
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Agnosticnixie posted:I'm the person who thinks a 2 points lead in a 5-way race is a commanding majority JEB!
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DrProsek posted:Related to that, this Washington Post Hot Take is exactly the wrong Take on France/Netherlands: GroenLinks quadrupled alright. Of course labour just lost 75% of their seats but i am sure that had nothing to do with it. One left wing party lost 30 seats, another gained 10. I am sure these events are completely unrelated.
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Can someonewho watched the French debate give a summary? Guardian says macron came out on top? tia
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oliwan posted:Can someonewho watched the French debate give a summary? Guardian says macron came out on top? tia le pen was doing okay then marcon let her talk a bunch and she said something about the economics planting the seeds of war between germany and france so whelp
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also whoah she v trumpy when it comes to terrorism
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I wish people would stop giving credit for her politics to her inferior american ersatz. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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