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Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer
I will never forgive GL for agreeing with the student debt introduction. That only leaves SP as actual leftist party, besides the animal one.

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Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer
A vote for D66 is basically a vote for vvd because they care about nothing as much as being in the government and are willing to support them in their quest of the complete destruction of anything good in the country in exchange for symbolic bs like having a vague promise of the possible introduction of directly elected mayors.

Same for PvdA these days really.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

twoday posted:

Is it just a giant "gently caress you" to vegetarians for no reason?

The reason is that vegetarianism isn't right-wing.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer
More like productschaap

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

Asehujiko posted:

A good overview of everybody's economic positions but it glosses over international policy, which is the main reason why I'm not voting for SP or PvdD. Both are anti-europe and a left wing nexit will not be any less catastrophic than a right wing one under Wilders, socialists being russophiles on top of that and the animal party supports all kinds of woo like being antivax.

Neither party is pro-exit, and I'd like some sources on the antivax thing that is actual policy they propose.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

9-Volt Assault posted:

Vaccineren

De Partij voor de Dieren is tegen verplicht vaccineren. Ieder mens heeft het recht om zelf te beschikken over zijn of haar lichaam en daarmee ook het recht om af te zien van inenting voor zichzelf of zijn/haar minderjarige kinderen. Ook moet er geen vaccinatieplicht opgelegd kunnen worden vanuit de Europese Unie.

Basically, they dont support mandatory vaccination.

Giant leap from there to being antivaxxers though. I agree it's not a great look.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

Asehujiko posted:

I've had the misfortune of having been around a lot of antivaxxers, this is straight up "as a mommy I know what's best/MAH SOVEREIGNTY" antivaxxery. It's "I'm not racist, I just look at crime statistics and there's definitely a correlation between browns and crime" but for killing one's own children first.

It's basically the status quo position (vaccines are not currently obligatory) so I read it as neutral. There's nothing in there about statistics, bullshit formaldehyde/chemicals or whatever which is the usual antivaxx line. But hey, I'm not looking for an excuse not to vote for them so whatevs.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

TheIllestVillain posted:

i have to ask, what exactly did Dutch Labour do to be staring down the face of an absolute electoral wipeout

Execute neoliberal policy for several decades.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

Namarrgon posted:

I don't want the desintegration of capitalism. I want it at it's rightful place; chained and at the knees of human rights and the welfare state.

I think I need a Harry Potter metaphor. So if Wilders is Voldemort...

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

9-Volt Assault posted:

Not really. Wilders never had a chance of becoming prime-minister, and he was losing support quickly the last few weeks. The higher than expected result for the conservatives just means most regular people will get hosed for a couple more years. Also, the Netherlands will continue to not do poo poo to curb carbon emissions, despite half our nation being many meters below sea level. :lol:

Yeah this is a terrible result for people who care about the future. A further net rightward shift, both in discourse and in actual party seats :(

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

u brexit ukip it posted:

But without GL, they'll have to go with PvdA who are now a complete joke, or CU which will be very risky with a single set majority. I'd say GL holds some good cards now.

No, it's the opposite. Either they govern with VVD and get nothing done + are decimated next elections for executing neoliberal policy, or they are opposition as always and get nothing done. They're getting nothing done either way.

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Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

oscarthewilde posted:

But Klaver needs his Papadag, it's his human right!

Unironically true.

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