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Top City Homo posted:i have this theory that Macron is the idiot Hillary clone the media is told to root for He talked about "ad hominem attacks" during one of the debates, so he clearly sucks total rear end and is going to lose.
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The coolest thing is going to be French equivalent of Hillary dead-enders asking themselves how such a competent candidate could have failed. These conversations will happen first on Twitter, and later to pass the time in LePen's concentration camps.
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Apr 18, 2017 02:55
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Top City Homo posted:what a joke it would be Melenchon/Bernie/your local variant: "We will give you free everything, and pay for it by taxing people far richer than you." Liberals: "You piece of poo poo."
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Fallen Hamprince posted:https://twitter.com/politico_daily/status/854310181634805760 Guess we'll see how everybody feels after five years of Tory absolutism. Top City Homo posted:burn the blairite, kill the neoliberal, purge the corporate shill Give the royal family the Romanov treatment.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:57
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Endorsement by economists: the kiss of death.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:he's a piece of poo poo op How would you vote if you were French? For me it would be an anyone-who-can-beat-LePen thing, but its hard to tell who that even is at this point.
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Top City Homo posted:Macron is a huge piece of poo poo But in a Marcon-LePen runoff?
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Apr 20, 2017 01:28
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ISIS sympathizers really trying to get that LePen victory. They need the bump.
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Apr 21, 2017 04:39
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rudatron posted:Rich people will cut their losses and support Le Pen, because fascism is profitable and ethnic cleansing didn't doesn't hurt the bottom line. LePen has been consistent about protecting the benefits, pensions, etc of French citizens. Without all the racism, anti-semitism, and Islamophobia her message would be fairly boilerplate socialist left. Added together its a kind of National Socialism, if you will.
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Apr 23, 2017 02:35
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Top City Homo posted:Paris is going to burn if Lepen wins Fukken hope so.
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rudatron posted:But their hearts not actually in any of that. The Nazis were pretty happy to backtrack the similar things they promised, in their time, to secure the loyalty of business interests. Le Pen will probably make a similar deal with the corporations/business leaders, to dump all that poo poo but keep the border and migrant stuff. Agreed. But in the election even the lie of protecting your benefits will play better than austerity or means testing. Plus you know LePen will have all kinds of great excuses later. "I didn't want to cut old age pensions, but, you know, the Jews and gypsies..."
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rudatron posted:A Le Pen victory will result in an attack on labor & unions for the sake of business profitability, and the most extreme racists are going to be used as stike breakers/corporate lap dogs. The goal will be to increase productivity to compensate for the loss of cheap migrant labor & thereby maintain profitability. None of the authoritarian ethnic nationalist governments are going to be able to deliver on their economic promises, and in each case will take the kinds of actions you're describing to try and shore up the national economy from the top down. But it won't work. So the real tragedy is going to be when these populations willing to elect overt racists for a little economic and physical security end up with neither. What will they do then? I don't think someone like Trump thought that far ahead, but LePen was raised on this and knows exactly what the next move is.
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Apr 23, 2017 03:49
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This is LePen's best chance. We can say its a real threat, which wasn't true in the past.
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Apr 23, 2017 03:53
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rudatron posted:Are you agreeing with me or suggesting that Le Pen is going to do something different? Because I'm suspecting a full fascist/corporatist takeover. I think we're at least half-agreeing? She will try to go the corporatist route but their economy will still tank, at which point I think she'll go full, old-school Nazi. That may even be her plan.
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Top City Homo posted:now melechon's voters will have to double down for a fascist who wants to leave the eu and a neoliberal who tried to push policies that left the current president with 4% approval ratings How many times can Macron say "nazi" and "fascist" in two weeks? Let's find out....
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DrProsek posted:Upside of the French election is my prediction yesterday didn't come true; I thought LePen would get 26% at least and Macron would underperform but it looks like that didn't happen at all. Polls basically predicted the result, no upset/last minute swell of support for LePen. We knew Macron sucks, but its impossible to duplicate how much Hillary sucked, so the polling was accurate this time.
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