|
Skyrim had the same problem every Bethesda game has: They created an amazing system, huge detailed game world, and interesting game mechanics, and then went nowhere with it.
|
#
¿
Nov 7, 2016 03:37
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 6, 2024 11:35 |
|
|
Jack Trades posted:I can give you the huge world but I cannot think of a single gameplay mechanic in Skyrim that wasn't aggressively mediocre and slightly below average in quality. Perhaps I should rephrase and say potential for good gameplay mechanics. As in, like, the engine supports cool things, and existing mechanics could be revamped to be much more meaningful and rewarding with minimal effort - we know this because there are a fair number of mods that do exactly that. Bethesda themselves just.... didn't, and never have. The golden rule example is always Fallout 3 versus Fallout: New Vegas. Exact same game engine, exact same premise, even probably.... 90% the same, mechanically. But the difference between the two is like night and day in terms of story, player agency, potential playstyles, unique content, and customization options, and one of those games was made by Bethesda and the other wasn't. Skyrim and Fallout 4 were more of the exact same, so it honestly kinda makes me wonder sometimes if Bethesda doesn't just prefer keeping their games as simple as possible both to avoid extra work and to try and cast a wider net for consumers.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 7, 2016 04:11
|
|
|
The thing that always gets me about the truly awful Bethesda-game mods is how much work they are. Every time I click on one - like that Japanese waifu one just now - it has like 10 goddamn dependencies that you have to download separately, and sometimes those have dependencies of their own. Every now and then I am curious enough to consider downloading one of them, but every single time I see how much work it would be and decide that idle curiosity doesn't justify it. I sort of get modders having ludicrous amounts of dedication to utterly bizarre fantasies, but drat, their fans have got some too.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 14, 2016 03:36
|
|
|
You're not a programmer until the day you make a code comment saying something along the lines of, "I know this is dumb, but it works and I don't have time to do it right, so..."
|
|
#
¿
Jan 25, 2017 02:59
|
|
|
Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:This is awesome and makes me want to play this game, although I've heard it's bad. Hardline had a few legitimately good ideas and features. They were not nearly enough to save it from its own mediocrity, though.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 31, 2017 17:54
|
|
|
.... What's funny is that my reaction was identical, word for word, to the previous posters'. The adult one was honestly kind of disturbing, but the child one was admittedly hilarious.... though at the same time, it sure didn't stop the "Jesus Christ..."
|
|
#
¿
Feb 28, 2017 17:54
|
|
|
By shotgun, his life was given. By shotgun, it is taken away.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2017 16:49
|
|
|
Discendo Vox posted:I'd like a Fallout NV that fixes the writing, and gives the option to pursue a course with Yes Man as the final boss. I think the real question is when will there be a mod to add Yes Man as a romance option.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 8, 2017 19:25
|
|
|
Diabetes Forecast posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS6WGBm_svQ Oh god, that was beautiful. I'm amazed both that they modded it enough that getting too far away from Smoke doesn't end it, and that the jump controls are precise enough to leap onto the train.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 18, 2017 18:02
|
|
|
The Lone Badger posted:I thought I murdered them for the crime of having cool loot? Doesn't Elminster just show up and steal it from you shortly thereafter to keep you from being insanely overpowered? I seem to recall hearing something about that.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2017 13:55
|
|
|
Unoriginal One posted:Here's Bob, the mid-level lawful good Cleric. He can cast Raise Dead multiple times per day. Where do you want him to start? On that note, I was greatly amused by that under-siege city in the beginning of Throne of Bhaal, where you could find some kid crying his eyes out next to the corpse of his recently killed father.... and then just use a Rod of Resurrection on said father, who just kinda goes, "Holy poo poo.... uh, thanks?" and goes home with his kid.
|
|
#
¿
May 31, 2017 00:54
|
|
|
Yeah, I'm not paying for mods. I'm only barely willing to pay for DLC, when it's on sale. If they do this, then fine, but I won't take any part in it. I imagine a lot of other people won't either.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 12, 2017 14:08
|
|
|
King Vidiot posted:Why didn't they just go all the way and make the bullet holes into nipples? New syringer ammo: Opponent sprouts breasts at area of impact.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 7, 2017 21:54
|
|
|
I likewise have a female best friend who gets off pretty much exclusively on rape fantasies. She's not stupid, she'd never want it to happen to anyone for real, but in fantasy, oh yeah. You really can't apply logic to fetishes, but that doesn't mean they go away when you realize they're not logical.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 13, 2017 14:47
|
|
|
GeekTheMage posted:I watched those DOOM mod videos and this was one of the related videos and I think I'll let it speak for itself: I actually watched this. It was interesting feeling my own reactions change as it went along. "Hahaha, oh God, cringey as poo poo." ".... Huh, he actually put some real effort into this." "You know, divorced from the cringe, this might actually be fun." ".... Was this a self-aware joke? I can't tell if this was self-aware or not."
|
|
#
¿
Jan 21, 2018 22:50
|
|
|
Synthbuttrange posted:From inside the Darkest Dungeon thread comes homegrown content: I for one can respect that the creator of the Omen Seeker is willing to compromise with others in the name of cooperation, but also refuses to compromise his own artistic integrity. Shine on, brave sir. A vote for giant anime tits is a vote for freedom of expression.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 27, 2018 15:24
|
|
|
RareAcumen posted:You've gotta hand it to the Nexus, they really are devoted to add porn to literally every game they can manage. It's not just a hobby, it's a life goal.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 18, 2018 18:40
|
|
|
Every now and then I see a direct Nexus link, click it, and am reminded you need an account to view their stuff. .... Nah. Not worth it. MariusLecter posted:New Vegas Mods - The Fallout 76 Experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koV7ZZB2Ufw Holy poo poo, this is simultaneously hilarious and also everything that I'm afraid 76 will really wind up being. Backhand fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 4, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Jul 4, 2018 03:32
|
|
|
Danaru posted:How does someone obsess over the specifics of killing and dissecting a little girl this much without imploding into a singularity of disgust On the one hand, I can definitely respect that. On the other hand, I will never, ever stop finding the occasional video like this one absolutely hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vupRn3PJvg
|
|
#
¿
Sep 4, 2018 03:02
|
|
|
Spineless yes, monster not so much. It's unclear if they just didn't flesh out his ammoral aspect enough in Peacewalker or if they decided to alter his character for MGS5, but in either case, he didn't really do anything evil. EDIT: Beaten to the punch. But yeah, for what it's worth, he was defnitely at least spineless even back then.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 4, 2018 03:47
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:Literally all I got from his plot is that we nabbed him having previously worked with him, assumed he was responsible for blowing up the base on the basis that he was kidnapped rather than killed, tortured him a bunch, then told him to start developing weapons for us. Everyone else on the base comes off as having some weird pathological obsession with murdering/torturing/generally doing violence at people because it's literally the only way they interact with anyone. The idea with Huey is that, as awful as Miller and Snake have become, he's much worse in his own particular flavor of awful. Specifically, self-delusion. Huey manages to legitimately convince himself he's a good guy and bad poo poo just keeps happening to him, but pretty much everything Snake, Ocelot, and Miller accuse him of, he absolutely did really do. He's just so profoundly hosed up in the head that he honestly convinces himself that it was all a terrible coincidence. The man has an enormous amount of blood on his hands. and of people he actively betrayed no less... he's just very, very convincing when he protests otherwise, since he truly believes it himself. But yeah, there was a lot to dislike about MGS5 and the very unsympathetic protagonists was definitely a big part. That was the point, narratively speaking.... the entire game is about the characters more or less becoming outright villains from too much time looking into the abyss. But yeah, just because it was the point didn't make it much more fun to side with them. EDIT: Granted, all of this is second hand understanding on my part. I've seen a lot of MGS5 here and there since it's been released but I admit I've never actually played it myself. Ground Zeroes turned me off too much. Backhand fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 5, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Sep 5, 2018 03:37
|
|
|
Schubalts posted:And their entire handling of the child soldiers is incredibly moral. Snake refuses to kill those children, and actively wants to educate them so they go make something ofthemselves. I thought it was because giving them all cyborg-fist-delivered concussions, instead, was hilarious. Synthbuttrange posted:If you've skipped the tapes then you've missed out on the most important plot point of all. This. This is what modern gaming was missing for so many years. Listening to geriatrics loudly chew hamburgers. Backhand fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Sep 5, 2018 |
|
#
¿
Sep 5, 2018 13:45
|
|
|
I know you guys are disturbed but I am genuinely finding this hilarious. At some point the internet's obsession with sexy versions of everything became an endearing "Oh, you!" kinda character trait to me.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 26, 2018 13:58
|
|
|
Everything about FF13 sucked. Honestly, Lightning was the best part of the entire game just for being so utterly sick of everyone's poo poo and constantly physically and verbally abusing the rest of the party. Of course, that was supposed to be her pre-character-arc personality and a flaw she needed to overcome. Considering that everyone she took to task generally deserved it, though...
|
|
#
¿
Sep 27, 2018 01:56
|
|
|
RareAcumen posted:https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_pa5y4aqxxc1xvyxl5.mp4 Jesus, having to play that for more than ten minutes at a time would give you the biggest headache.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 11, 2018 15:50
|
|
|
I'll give the guy credit for thinking his argument through. Perhaps way too much, but thinking it through nonetheless.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 12, 2018 16:09
|
|
|
Max Wilco posted:
Yeah, I heard a quote like that from the creator of Senran Kagura once (Anime Titty Ninja: The Game.) His entire justification for why all the girls looked and acted the way they did (paraphrased)? "I just really like tits and rear end." Had never played a single one of his games before, but drat if I couldn't respect that kind of honesty.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 18, 2018 14:41
|
|
is a treasure.
|
Eh, I found myself having very little patience for Automata. Admittedly, I did not get very far in it at all. And yes, I know how it picks up after the first fakeout ending. But I hated the camera, the combat, the quests, and most of all the enemy design - seriously, outside of bosses, the enemies are the most boring goddamn things I have ever seen in a modern game. The whole thing was just so full of stupid little annoyances that story aside, I could not stomach the gameplay at all. Mind you, yes, the music is stunning.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 18, 2018 20:37
|
|
|
supergayboy posted:I don't understand what is happening there but I sure do enjoy it In the old days that might have phazed me. Now, it's just the internet being the internet.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 11, 2019 13:27
|
|
|
Honestly, the real thing I can't get over is that people are STILL modding Skyrim. You think they'd get bored eventually.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 25, 2019 14:13
|
|
|
The romances in BG2, in general, were really tacked on and dumb. Jaheira's was actually kinda cool in that it realistically portrayed someone in grief freaking out at the prospect of falling in love again and being terrified of history repeating itself, but Jaheira herself was so unpleasant (and fairly useless as a party member) that it made the writing hard to appreciate even if it was well-written. Viconia I never messed with. Aerie was a whiny child, and Anomen's I hated so much I kicked him out of the party and killed him off permanently. The guy pretty much tries to emotionally blackmail a female player character into sex and leaves forever if she won't go for it.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 25, 2019 15:47
|
|
|
Can't say I've ever been a Duke Nukem fan, but someone put in some real work on that.
|
|
#
¿
May 17, 2019 19:55
|
|
|
They modded it in.
|
|
#
¿
May 17, 2019 20:26
|
|
|
Cardiovorax posted:People would probably want to kill them less if Bethesda wasn't constitutionally unable to write a child NPC that isn't completely obnoxious. Least they can do for people is prepare for the obvious result of that. I have to admit, in virtually every Bethesda game I've ever played it feels like they deliberately try to make the children as hate-able as they can. In fact, I can almost understand the mods, just because it feels really weird being a walking engine of death that murders everyone who so much as looks at you funny.... yet you can make a kid ground zero for a miniaturized nuclear blast and it won't bother her a bit. That kinda thing definitely took me out of the moment in Fallout 4, when I decided on my second playthrough to be evil and slaughter Preston's group of survivors only to discover that they were all immortal. Granted, the mods are still way over the line for me, but I can almost understand the thinking sometimes. Backhand fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jun 4, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jun 4, 2019 14:13
|
|
|
This is so much worse than child killing. Can't we just, like, have some anthropomorphic mud crab girls with outrageously huge breasts and a tsundere voice set or something?
|
|
#
¿
Jun 6, 2019 13:43
|
|
|
And yet they somehow keep limping along, and I am genuinely unsure how.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 1, 2019 20:52
|
|
|
I tend to consider random youtube reviews far, far more useful than articles by professional writers. The professional is bored, going through a queue, and just trying to get through the day so they can go home and drink. The youtube fan is passionate and doing the review because they WANT to be doing it, and as a fellow gamer they usually have a much better idea of what's important to me than the writer does. Plus, I simply don't trust professional writers at all, given how industry back-scratching works; independent youtube reviewers tend not to have that problem. Anyone remember that big fiasco with.... was it IGN? Several years ago? Firing one of their writers after he gave a game a bad review, because the company had shelled out a lot of advertising money for the game on their site? I don't believe for one second that that kind of thing doesn't still go on. At the very least, no company is going to bite the hand that feeds, and they all like getting early review copies.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 2, 2019 15:17
|
|
|
You can think as you will. I'm talking about the aggregate, though, not saying one side is purely good or that the other is purely evil. Youtube channels are more trustworthy than professional reviewers. Emphasis on 'more,' not 'impeccably.' And I am well aware that story happened a long time ago.... but as I said, I harbor no doubts whatsoever that a lot of that sort of thing still goes on, if a bit more subtly. I think independent channels are far, far less susceptible to it. Even moreso because if you search youtube for reviews on a game, and you see one shill, you'll often see another review immediately under it that can contradict whatever the shill says.... though again, it's far less common on youtube to begin with. Backhand fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jul 2, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jul 2, 2019 15:38
|
|
|
TTBF posted:Every single thing you've said here is as far from the truth as possible. OK
|
|
#
¿
Jul 3, 2019 14:50
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 6, 2024 11:35 |
|
|
Is it wrong that I just chuckle at the reliability of people like that? "Hmmm.... this is a good game, but it's just not WHITE enough..."
|
|
#
¿
Jul 4, 2019 02:33
|
|