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Droo
Jun 25, 2003

I don't think college students are exempt from income tax. As far as health insurance... are you still on your parents insurance because you are 25? Or do you just think you can go without it?

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22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Last year I had no tax burden because of the education credit, this year I expect it to be the same. Especially since I spent half the year unemployed.

I'm on my dad's insurance still. This new place has what seems like a pretty good plan for $160/mo for my wife and I.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
Keep up the good work man! It takes a lot of courage to fight through the present and work on it - believe me, there were many times when I felt like I was going nuts and that everything was going wrong.

Aim to hit 75k a year (around 36 an hour) stable job if possible since that's a pretty well established point where you should be able to make things work out financially and have some degree of enjoyment from life at the same time. With a solid foundation, you get some breathing room to work on the difficult things in life.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Thanks. I'm definitely going to land somewhere in the 60s if I get converted at this job. Maybe higher, I know how much they are paying the contracting company for me and they could be paying me $80k, another $30k for my benefits, and still come out even. They would even have the ability to have me doing overtime without paying out the rear end. I'm doing some research already on the prevailing wage for this sort of thing, and building my case when it comes to negotiations. There were some details about the job I didn't know about when I was submitted for the job at my current wage. I'll have a very uncommon skill set once this contract is done, so if I keep impressing them and learn this stuff inside and out I should be able to do well. In a few years I should be well over $75k. I'm not going to plan my current finances on how much I expect to be making then, though. I've read enough of the BWM thread to know better than that.

I love my new job, and I've been getting a lot of praise from my manager, director, and the guy on my team who has been training me. Also, Veskit, they are starting doing mindfulness meditation sessions at the beginning of the day. I went to one, and hopefully will remember to go to more. This is the best I have felt about a job that I can remember, which has done amazing things for my general outlook day to day. It's even good enough that I don't mind driving over an hour each way. They also don't mind if I show up a bit late since they know how traffic is. I cannot overstate how not having to stress about being late impacts my mood.

Less happy news, I have been avoiding this thread for a while because:

A) E/N mixing with BFC, and despite the thread tag I'm not willing to really get into E/N.
B) I'm extremely ashamed of having wasted all of that windfall. Some of it was on things we needed (car repairs, doctor bills, personal debts, new phones because both of ours were non-functional). But a lot of it was just not watching our spending, there's no excuse for that part.

Back to more happy news, I'm now in control of monitoring finances. It's more stress, but honestly it probably won't be much more than I have been stressing hoping my wife is taking care of it. I've got a better head for numbers and figuring out how stuff like Mint works.

We'll be going to a VITA tax prep place Saturday to get our taxes done. I should have a decent return this year. That windfall had over $800 in taxes withheld because I filled the tax form on it in a way that must have confused the accounts payable person. It's amazing how organized drug cartels are these days. I also had tax withheld from my unemployment at the beginning of the year. We'll use the return to help move down closer to my job. I know it would be great to use it to pay down debt, but I'm currently putting 600 miles per week on my car. That's a lot of gas and a lot of wear on the car.

Once we're down there, hopefully my wife will be able to start working. She's already feeling better due to the longer and sunnier days. It just doesn't make sense for her to get a job before we're down there. What she's qualified for would largely get eaten up by gas and wear and tear, since it likely wouldn't be an 8-5.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Doubleposting because it's my thread and I can do what I want with it.

I finally got my taxes done, and I'm getting a $2300 tax return thanks to the American Opportunity Credit and some withholding from before I realized I wouldn't have any tax burden what with being unemployed for half the year.

Now I just have to not loving waste it like I did with the windfall. Looking for apartments now. That should be enough to pay the deposit, moving expenses, and lease breaking fee, at least. I'm really not looking forward to moving our heavy-rear end bulky-rear end desks and dressers. But I am looking forward to not putting 120 miles a day on my car, and having at least another 45 minutes with my wife every evening.

For the C portion of BFC, I'm going to reach out to a college friend working as a software engineer. He lives down in the Denver area, so I'm going to ask if he knows any meetup groups or something similar. Getting to know some people in the area is probably a good idea both for being social and networking.

Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Doubleposting because it's my thread and I can do what I want with it.

I finally got my taxes done, and I'm getting a $2300 tax return thanks to the American Opportunity Credit and some withholding from before I realized I wouldn't have any tax burden what with being unemployed for half the year.

Now I just have to not loving waste it like I did with the windfall. Looking for apartments now. That should be enough to pay the deposit, moving expenses, and lease breaking fee, at least. I'm really not looking forward to moving our heavy-rear end bulky-rear end desks and dressers. But I am looking forward to not putting 120 miles a day on my car, and having at least another 45 minutes with my wife every evening.

For the C portion of BFC, I'm going to reach out to a college friend working as a software engineer. He lives down in the Denver area, so I'm going to ask if he knows any meetup groups or something similar. Getting to know some people in the area is probably a good idea both for being social and networking.

Moving - breaking a lease sucks. Be prepared for more costs than you'll expect. Get the bill before you leave (trust me).

Career - there are some recruiters here in my city at these meetups (according to my boss, I've never went), so yeah not a bad idea especially when Denver is a way better city for dev jobs.

What do you do now? You mentioned IT in the OP but I'm not sure what your current job is. I'm assuming you're going to college to become a dev based on your post. If you're interested keep an eye on these guys - http://www.enavate.com/dynamics-ax-jobs--careers/current-listings whose HQ is right near Denver. x++ pays well that has waaay too few devs, so you can constantly job hop if you want to. Enavate would be a really good company to start with. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Skill=Microsoft_Dynamics_AX/Salary

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'm currently doing ERP support and starting SQL reporting this month. As recently as September I was doing T1 helldesk, so it's a pretty huge step. I went to school for Computer Science, so I'm really excited to get into writing code. I'm always too exhausted when employed, but when I'm not working I code 3-4 hours per day for fun.

I'm currently really happy at my job, but I'll look into that company once my contract is a couple months from ending, in case I don't get converted.

The lease breaking fee is $375. I don't think our landlady is going to try to screw us, she's really nice aside from being a Trump supporter. When I lost my job she didn't charge us a late fee despite rent being about a week late and a pretty stiff fee being in the lease.

I'll definitely get paperwork in order before we go, though.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I just drafted a specific paycheck by paycheck plan for March. I have been behind a little bit since the end of the holidays thanks to BWM and no paid holidays. If I can stick to this budget, though, I can be back to paying the first half of the month's bills with the last paycheck of the previous month, which is important to me. I'll also have a pretty significant doctor's bill (~$500) paid off.

This will be the first month where keeping track of finances is my responsibility. I think the key will be saying how much we have left in the budget whenever my wife wants to spend money on fun. When she sees how quickly everything adds up she'll hopefully finally get it. Also the same thing with groceries, but I'm generally the one doing the shopping since she has never learned to comparison shop. This will take discipline, but I'm no longer afraid to look at my bank or CC, and paying bills feels good now. I can do it.

We've been eating a ton of rice, which should help with the grocery budget. I've also got a curry that lasts most of a week for almost all of my meals and a few for my wife that costs about $12. And there's a place near here that always has super cheap produce, so I don't get scurvy.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



My $2300 tax refund came in today. I'm putting together an upgrade list for my gaming PC, and I'm going to order a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 kit and an electronic locking safe tonight.









I'm just loving with you, thread. That's a deposit, lease breaking fee, moving expenses, and maybe half a month's rent. We're not having much luck finding anywhere we like, but we don't urgently need to move. If it comes down to it, we could even wait until I've negotiated a new, higher conversion salary. I'd like to find somewhere we can afford at my current rate, though. That would let us put a few hundred more into savings per month.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
You really have to be outrageous and specific if you want to joke around like saying you're putting a down payment on a condo with a tiger painted on the wall

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Nah, my wife is the artist, so she's going to do the wolf shirt themed art herself.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Nah, my wife is the artist, so she's going to do the wolf shirt themed art herself.

Then you should have used the money to start a wolf shirt printing co, but the catch being none of the shirts will be ironic.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
You said your current commute is 120 miles a day. What will your new commute be, and how fuel efficient is your car? You may save a decent amount of money right there, if that will help you get your mind past the lease breaking fee.


I've heard a lot of good stuff about mindfulness meditation, take advantage of that, especially once you don't have to drive an hour to get to work in the first place.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Mar 11, 2017

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I get about 27mpg on my commute. Every three work days I spend around $30. We've been using my wife's car on the weekends, since her car is a combination of low mileage, good fuel economy, and worth almost nothing so mileage based depreciation basically doesn't exist. The new commute could be anywhere from 15-30 minutes with where I've been looking. They would be 20 miles tops each way, too.

We're definitely moving as soon as practical. The drive isn't awful, so we can be patient for something we like. I have accepted the lease breaking fee. If somehow by July we weren't moved yet I might be able to negotiate relocation too. Not counting on that, though.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I might be counting my chickens before they hatch here, but I'm really excited. We've gone over budget on some things, particularly due to online orders coming in late and having to buy more expensive brick and mortar as a stopgap. We've also spent slightly over our $200 grocery budget with a week to go, but in past months we were hitting around $400. We've got maybe half a week of food left, too. And several weeks of one of my wife's favorite snacks, and a couple weeks worth of meat.

This is also going to be the first month in a long time where we have put away money into savings. Roughly 200, 250 if we don't​have surprise crap in the next 3 weeks. And this is finally catching up on bills so we have it ahead of time rather than spending 2/3 of a paycheck on rent and being a few days late on some bills.

My wife's art commission business also exploded this month. $120-200 a week for the first 3 weeks. Guess it's time to figure out self-employment taxes. Not that she'll be making that much every month. It's really been increasing a lot, though. She's doubled her prices within the past year and is getting more orders than ever.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 24, 2017

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



So I kind of abandoned the thread out of shame. We've been bad again and are down to $600 in savings. Not nearly as bad as in the past, but still BWM.

Good news: I got the permanent position for $65,000 per year. There's also a year end bonus every year and fantastic benefits. Health insurance with $1,000 deductible for $160/mo because I'm not obese or a smoker. FSA, meaning that some of my huge medical expenses can be pre-tax. 6% 401k match. Tuition reimbursement.

Bad news: I need to get a new car soon because mine is going to need major work within a few months.

Good news: They are going to reimburse a shitload of money as long as I get a green car. This works for used cars too.

Estimate: I'll be making $3900 per month including FSA.

Priorities:
Move (2400mi/mo is expensive)
Save up a month's cash expenses
Pay off CC
Split between saving and paying off debt. Not sure whether I'll try to snowball the small high interest student loans first or find the highest interest, snowballing might encourage me more.

My wife is seeing a disability lawyer, but who knows how that will turn out.

E: September is coming up. How do I take advantage of the extra paycheck for the month, given that I don't have a month's pay set aside to live off of yet? Should I split more off of each paycheck from September's third to October's last into savings? I'm sorry, this question is hard for me to articulate.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jul 6, 2017

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Hey, popped back over from your BFC posts.

Man, you really need to stick to that budget. Just "We've been bad!" isn't helpful - you can't out-earn your problem if you aren't disciplined about your expenses. Don't move and don't buy a new car UNTIL you have some cash on hand to cover down payment or some of your moving costs. Sure, 2,400 miles per week is expensive but moving is very expensive and buying a new car is extremely expensive.

Can you break down your current budget?

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Yeah, basically the pattern I just figured out today is that one bad night we give up and go over our fun budget by getting dinner, and then it just spirals out of control until the next paycheck. It turns out I have bipolar too, which explains but doesn't excuse some of my trouble with self control. E/N I've been drinking too much and that obviously impacts inhibitions. Now that my job situation is stable I have cut back to one beer / rye rocks

I need to work out a new budget. It will be just for August, I'm going to have to start paying for medical insurance in September, but I'll also be able to start dumping money in an FSA. At this point medical costs have ballooned to about $500 per month. The FSA should really help there. If I can keep costs relatively similar we could be saving $5-600 a month even after higher doctor bills than expected originally. September I'll also have insurance that covers mental health care.

The main place we go over aside from restaurants is groceries. I'm trying to decide whether or not to bump it up to $250 or $300 in the new budget. My wife does the whole gluten free thing. I thought it was dumb and just psychosomatic at first, but then there were some very scary symptoms as soon as she broke down and had a gluten binge. If that's psychosomatic I'm not going to fight it. I'm wondering if upping the budget would qualify as tracking spending rather than budgeting.

I've been using recipes from Budget Bytes to try to save money on groceries. The biggest expenses are probably snacks at this point.

I'll post an updated budget when I have it done. I'll try to put it together tonight.

She wants me to keep track of all of the budgets and just tell her if there's money in the budget. I hate that, but I'll do it. I need to make it a mantra that if we keep overspending we'll never get out of this lovely depressing basement.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jul 21, 2017

legendof
Oct 27, 2014

One of my roommates is gluten free (celiac). It is only expensive if you insist on eating the fancy gluten free versions of things she liked that contain gluten (especially snacks! Just pick ones that are already gluten free, don't go buying the gluten free oreos or whatever, they're really not worth it anyway). If you just accept that most of your meals will center around rice now it won't be so pricey.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

$200 a month for groceries for 2 people is doable, but very tight. I wouldn't feel bad bumping it up some (we spend $400/mo for 2 right now, but that is for some fancier stuff and includes household supplies/paper consumables). When we were in your position, we were spending $250-$300/mo on groceries/consumables.

Budget Bytes is great. We usually doubled her recipes and froze the other half. That way we got up a stock of 3-5 easy frozen food options on the days we didn't feel like cooking.

Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jul 21, 2017

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



legendof posted:

One of my roommates is gluten free (celiac). It is only expensive if you insist on eating the fancy gluten free versions of things she liked that contain gluten (especially snacks! Just pick ones that are already gluten free, don't go buying the gluten free oreos or whatever, they're really not worth it anyway). If you just accept that most of your meals will center around rice now it won't be so pricey.

That's actually a good point about rice. We've been meaning to do more Asian food, I'll pick up a wok from the Asian grocery store by work and make a stirfry tonight. We've also been using a lot of potatoes, since they're another good carb that's gluten free.

I'll try bumping it up to 275 next month, see how that goes.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

You don't need a wok to make stir fry, any medium size pan of any depth will do fine. You don't want a wok unless you have a fire pit stove designed for woks, they are less efficient than regular pans if you have a normal flat range. You see the theme of buying poo poo you don't need is quite prevalent, everyone thinks they need to waste money on a loving wok.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'm not sure what you consider "medium", but my 12-14" frying pan doesn't allow for the stir part of stir frying. It's more like gingerly try to make sure everything ends up getting time at the bottom of the frying pan while minimizing stuff spilling over. And that's not even doing fried rice or a noodle based stir fry.

I didn't get the budget done tonight, hopefully tomorrow. Tonight was a bad night. I didn't order food though, so that's a win.

I'm trying to plan out how to prioritize what savings goes where. First, I need to save up to move. Then it's between saving up a cash reserve, donating to the 401k (6% match), saving for a car, and paying off my CC. You could argue that moving first rather than getting in on the 6% match is BWM, but it's GWL. An extra 1/2 - 1 hour with my wife a day, less days with terrible traffic.

I'm thinking I should first get one month's cash expenses (rent, CC bill, student loans, collections, hospital loan) in reserve. After that put 6% in the 401k, then pay off the CC. I'm not sure how to compare the math, though. 6% into the 401k is pre-tax and a 100% return immediately, but the CC has a 20% APR and money put into paying it off is also going into an effective emergency (like actual emergency, not floating expenses) fund.

That process will take a while, so I'm not going to bother trying to plan past that. A car will probably be involved after that since I expect that will take over a year. It also depends on how big the year end bonus is. The company is doing extremely well and my director loves me so much he hugged me when I passed my second drug test (first was diluted), so hopefully it's good. I know not to rely on that at all though. At least for the first time in two years I'm not wondering where I'll be in 6 months.

I Like Jell-O
May 19, 2004
I really do.
Not to turn this into kitchen chat, but a wok really is a bad purchase. It is a bad shape for everything except cooking over VERY high heat on open flame. On a flat cooktop a large frying pan is categorically better. Consider that the wok has less cooking surface than your current pan, as the bottom part of the pan is what's in contact with the heating element. I wish I'd known that before buying my wok.

It sounds like your problem is with the size of the pan, and not the shape. The way I see it, you have two good ways to solve that: buy a bigger pan or learn to cook in batches. A big frying pan is loads more versitile than a wok and probably costs about the same. I have one I love and use it all the time. The other option is to learn to cook in batches; I'd recommend doing this first, because it's a good skill to have no matter what pan you're using, and you can always buy a bigger pan later. It can seem like more work, but remember that with less food in the pan, the temperature doesn't drop as much when you add food so it cooks both better and faster. Once you get a feel for not overcrowding the pan you'll make great food in less time.

This is all fairly trivial in the grand scheme of things, I just really hate my wok. Don't be like me, man, get out while you still can!

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



That's a fair point. My largest pan is still bigger than my electric "burner", do frying pans come in a wok-like shape with a larger base to get full contact with the burners? I'll probably look at some stores tomorrow to see if I can find something that will give me the room to actually stir fry. My understanding was that woks are generally made fairly light so they can distribute their heat all around the pan. I was using this recipe exactly https://www.budgetbytes.com/2016/08/beef-cabbage-stir-fry/

My mother used to cook with a wok all the time with our electric stove, but I can see how the small contact point causes a problem when you don't have a gas range. She lived in the rural Philippines in the 80s, so I imagine all of the stuff she learned was with an open flame.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Double posting with my budget for August. Like I think I said, September I'll be making more (missed two days last week which will mean less on August 4th), but I'll also be paying health/vision/dental premiums. I have to estimate income since this will be my first two paychecks after conversion and a ~$11,000 raise.

Income (estimated): $3700

Bills:
Rent: $530
CC Payment: $70
Netflix: $5
Student Loans: $150
Hospital Loan: $45
Collections Payment: $153
State Farm: $80
Comcast: $74

Essentials:
Gas: $300
Groceries: $275
Pet Supplies: $75
E-Cig supplies: $75
Prescriptions: $20
Dr: $550
Other Non-Covered Medical: $150
Mechanic: $100

Flexible:
Vet: $50
Fun: $200
Household Supplies: $25
Haircut: $20

Savings: $750

I'm planning on paying half of September's rent, AmEx, and Netflix with the paycheck on September 1st. Then half of October's on each of September's 2nd and 3rd paychecks. I'm trying to spread out the budgeted expenses over the last paycheck of August and all three of September so I can save a normal amount for a month plus the $1750-$1800 post-tax post-FSA post-insurance third paycheck. IF (big if considering my past behavior) I can stick with it through August and September that should be 2/3 to 3/4 of the cost of moving. Does that make sense as far as how to handle a month with three paychecks? I've never stuck to trying to budget long enough to figure out how to do this.

I'm planning on putting about $200 a paycheck in my FSA come September, assuming the maximum for the year isn't prorated. I'm wondering if I should do $250, though. I'll easily be able to use up any extra by the cutoff next year, and will obviously be putting in less per paycheck next year when I have to spread it across 26 paychecks rather than 9.

I'm going to have my car inspected when I take it in for an oil change to see if there's anything major that needs doing, which is why it's $100 rather than $50 or so.

I also really still need to sell that random crap. Along with September's savings I could probably hit what I need to move. I just never get anything done on the weekends.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
The wok thing is symptomatic. You find a way to "save money" but the first step is always spend money on something to enable the savings. Your theoretical new car purchase is another good example.

The easiest way to save money is not to spend it.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I don't disagree with you in general, but I would argue that if I can fit cheap kitchen implements into the budget, it can be a great purchase. If I get stuff that makes cooking less of a pain in the rear end, I'm more likely to cook rather than saying gently caress it and ordering. A wok would make quick stir frys and fried rice easier and less messy. I spent something like (I don't have Mint in front of me) $500 on restaurants this month, that's just terrible and needs to stop. A single night where I cook instead of ordering / going out means spending maybe $30 less. Especially when rice is such a cheap staple. I feel like one of the keys to being better with money is finding my depression related habits and finding ways to counter them. I'll wait on buying it until next paycheck where I have money in the budget.

I also really didn't want to get a new car, but before you made me step back and justify my purchase I thought I absolutely needed to do so within the next couple months. I even put that as a negative in my post announcing getting the permanent position.

I think you post in Inspect Your Gadgets, so I just want to say that new phone is paid for by my company, I would just have to buy a case and screen protector. My phone's screen is shattered and is developing dead spots. It's cheaper to get a new phone than buying a replacement screen.

I totally agree that I tend to go from "I need to save money" to "I'm going to buy a thing" within an hour pretty often.

E: I'm still considering whether a wok actually is useful enough to be worth it, I'm just having to type during the five minute breaks I get today.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 24, 2017

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Hey, I got no problem if you can truly justify buying a wok. The exercise you're going through right now is very useful for all sorts of purchases. You may end up being able to justify the purchase quite easily!

I usually ask myself:

1. Do I legitimately need this specific item (for safety, survival, etc) or not? For a wok, the answer is no.
2. If I don't need the item, is there another item that I already own that I can use? I would argue that I have a decent size frying pan with curved up sides (it's a lovely Anglo wok), so I'd probably stop at this point. But let's pretend that I don't have it.
3. If I don't have another item that I already own that I can use, is there an alternative to the original item that is cheaper or more versatile? Is there another pan that works? Could I buy a more versatile large frying pan to use? etc etc
4. If the only solution is the item I originally identified, is there a way to get it cheaper? I would immediately head to Chinatown and visit my friends there. Browse the internet, look at Goodwill, whatever.
5. How much will I need to do the activity to make the purchase pay off? If the wok costs $20, I don't just need to use it once because my normal Chinese food order costs $20. Account for ingredients and paying yourself some nominal amount for your time. Figure that each time you use the wok you actually save $4, so you'll need to make stir fry at least five times.
6. How much will I actually do the activity, and how can I hold myself accountable? who knows, maybe declare Stir Friday or some poo poo to keep yourself accountable.

I'm an AI/BFC person only at this point so I don't really know bout your phones.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".
RE: Wokchat...if your frying pan is too small and stuff is spilling over, just use a pot. It's flat, high sided, etc. I'm assuming you already have like an 8 or 12 quart pot at least, if you're trying to do budget cooking.

Decent quality cookware is a good investment. If you can find a HomeGoods or something similar you find pretty great deals on pans, pots, etc. I've been using my Cusinart stainless steel pan for over a decade and it's still a-ok. I think it was $15?

Don't buy exotic kitchen items. Improvise and make due. Save the big ticket items for special occasions. I literally got my now-wife-then-girlfriend a Cusinart food processor for Valentine's Day instead of jewelry or a fancy dinner or something. To this day she still tells me it was the best V-day gift I've gotten her. Lifehack: I might use it more than she does. :v:

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Yeah, the issue is that the biggest pan I have still causes poo poo to spill all over. Not a complete deal breaker, but a pain in the rear end to clean. I can see if there is a bigger frying pan with higher sides too. It might have to do that the stir fry I did the most had cabbage, so it had to cook down a lot.

I actually was considering the cost of ingredients, but not the cost of my time. It's not like I'm giving up work time in exchange for cooking. OrderUp gets expensive fast.

That's a good set of questions before buying something, though.

I'll do some comparison shopping at goodwill / the Asian grocery store / Ross / TJ Maxx to see if I can find one for a decent price.

I must have been thinking of someone else in Inspect Your Gadgets.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
I have a cheap wok I got at Costco and it's great, especially since it turned out to work with our new induction stovetop!

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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If you have problems with spill over then a wok won't resolve anything because you shouldn't put that much in a wok anyway. It's really suited well for deep frying and small batches so it can get up to temperature properly. Don't bother with a wok unless you really plan to do individual sized portions each time you use it.

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

Surely when the first wok doesn't solve your problems, you can just buy a new one that will?

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'm getting really confused. My mother always made enough fried rice and Chicken Adobo for four in a wok without doing a bunch of batches.

I'll try the pasta/soup pot idea Saturday, because gently caress cooking real meals on a weeknight. That definitely wouldn't have spilling.

E: I can't find one that looks like hers. I'm wondering if it's maybe a regional style. That might make a difference.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jul 25, 2017

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

I'm getting really confused. My mother always made enough fried rice and Chicken Adobo for four in a wok without doing a bunch of batches.

I'll try the pasta/soup pot idea Saturday, because gently caress cooking real meals on a weeknight. That definitely wouldn't have spilling.

E: I can't find one that looks like hers. I'm wondering if it's maybe a regional style. That might make a difference.

Look dude you can make Adobo for 4 in a wok that doesn't mean you should do it in a wok. What everyone else is saying is that you can use a regular pan for it just fine and get more versatility. Unless you need a deep fryer or you want to get the proper use of a wok don't stress it.


http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/06/real-deal-kung-pao-chicken-recipe.html

Kenji Lopez, probably best home cook teacher posted:

At a restaurant, a wok chef has two valves controlled by his knees. One controls gas flow, while the other controls oxygen. Together, they allow him to control the heat under the wok from a lighter-sized flame to an all-out, jet-engine-sized ring of fire. Most cooking gets done under this extreme heat, which allows him to successively add ingredients to the wok without risking rapid temperature drop. Try the same thing at home, and you'll find yourself standing over a woeful wok-ful of pale, flaccid, steaming meat and vegetables.

To compensate for this, the key is to heat your wok until it is literally smoking hot, cook in batches, and allow your wok to reheat fully between each batch.


The BFC point of it all is that you really need to stop and actually research your purchases before spouting off you *need this* or need that so you can make informed decisions that will increase the quality of life for yourself for the price.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Yeah, I like Kyoon Griffey Junior's series of questions. I'm probably not buying a wok since I can just use my pasta pot (or whatever the real term is).

We've decided that while we're going to move, it probably won't be as close as we were thinking. For E/N reasons moving an hour+ away wouldn't be a good idea, but we could move 20-30 minutes closer to work and that would be much better. Cheaper, too. I could cut an easy $100-300 off rent compared to Denver/Boulder, and cut about 40% off my gas and mileage compared to where I am now. Maybe more depending on what part of the city I'm in. Depending on how things work out, we might move again in a year or two, or we might not.

I know moving half-rear end seems like a bad idea, but it would mean moving a month or so sooner, and even our psychiatrist says that living in a basement is probably terrible for both of us. There are much nicer places down there that only cost about $200 more than here, which means $100 more at most after deducting gas, and way ahead in terms of wear on the car. The car that at this rate I can probably drive for a few more years. I was literally going to cry when I had to get rid of it.

There's a job open at my company and I'm trying to get someone to recommend for it. I'd get a $1000 bonus, which would be a month+ of savings.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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You'd cut 100-300 off rent, but it'd cost 200 more to move? You lost me. Can you write out distance from work vs cost of rent for each of your prospective places?


Throw in square footage and amount of bathrooms to make it simple.

Veskit fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 26, 2017

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Ah, sorry. I was unclear. I live 60 miles from work. The area near work is more expensive. The area midway is cheaper than the area near work. Cheaper than this area in general too. We're in a cheap place for the town, but we found out why. This is ballparking since there are so many ads up and the area close to work has so many different price ranges.

Currently: 800 sqft 1br 1ba basement, $1095/mo including utilities. Commute: 60mi 1h15m each way.

Near work: 800-1,000 sqft 2br 1ba townhomes/duplexes, ~$1300 - $1600 including utilities (more likely closer to 1600, and choices are limited). Commute: ~15mi 15-30min each way.

Midway: 900-1200 sqft 2br 1 or 2ba townhomes/duplexes/houses, $1300-1400 (a lot more options towards 1300) including utilities. Commute: ~35 miles, 30-40min each way.

Before someone suggests an apartment: our dog is getting old and has to go out several times a night. A yard is really important.

Obviously there are higher priced ones, but I'm picking the lower range. We need at least another room because as it is we can never get any space from each other. Again, BWM compared to a 600-800sqft 1br, GWMental health. 800 square feet would be fine, it's just that the layout here is terrible so it feels smaller.

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Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
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22 Eargesplitten posted:

We need at least another room

You need to figure out the difference between a want and a need.

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