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CommieGIR posted:Meh, historians and sociologists say otherwise:
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scuz posted:They're misguided because they're forgetting the impact of social media on the middle school and high school experiences. We were fully-formed adults by the time we got our first cellphones, and they didn't even have internet capabilities. Look, it doesn't matter, because the Baby Boomer generation views us all, more or less, with contempt.
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Nov 29, 2016 22:40
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CommieGIR posted:Look, it doesn't matter, because the Baby Boomer generation views us all, more or less, with contempt.
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Nov 29, 2016 22:43
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Don't forget having to find your porn in the creek or under dads bed like you were supposed to E:also making sure the vhs was rewound to the exact second it started at
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Nov 29, 2016 22:50
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Nov 29, 2016 22:51
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CommieGIR posted:...a bit. If you're a millennial, you're hosed financially. Overall, pay is down, more and more families are living paycheck to paycheck, and that is not likely to change anytime soon. Not having children is a decent loophole for this problem. Doesn't solve it but makes things a lot easier and pisses off a lot of the boomers so win/win.
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Nov 29, 2016 22:57
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Galler posted:Not having children is a decent loophole for this problem. Doesn't solve it but makes things a lot easier and pisses off a lot of the boomers so win/win. Well, can't really solve that problem now. He's 4. I mean, I guess not having children is a solution to the overarching problem: Humanity at large?
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Nov 29, 2016 22:58
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CommieGIR posted:Let's be frank: generally, the people who claim that you just need to save more to be financially secure are wealthy enough that their savings is probably in the six digits or better, and have an income that allows them to save significantly. If you make less than six figures a year, chances are you are part of the dying middle class that is going to see more and more of a squeeze on their income in the coming years. The people that are telling you to cinch up your belt or bootstrap yourself generally are so well off, that budgets are not really a concern for them. Oh come off it. People don't magically wake up with six figures in the bank. People bust rear end and make sacrifices and your dogma here trivializes that. I feel for you Commie, but the fact that you can't put yourself in anyone else's shoes makes it really hard to have a discussion with you.
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Nov 29, 2016 23:22
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14 BAR RIFF posted:Don't forget having to find your porn in the creek or under dads bed like you were supposed to Holy gently caress......I have always wondered why I stop numbers exactly. When I was a teen I was a loving pro at getting a tape to stop on the second it was at before. Even if my dad was usually to high to care or remember where it was. Or what I did that day. Or where I was 90% of the time. 
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Adiabatic posted:People don't magically wake up with six figures in the bank. People bust rear end and make sacrifices and your dogma here trivializes that. This is statistically untrue. It was in the 1950s and 1960s maybe, but for the most part major wealth is inherited or created through Entrepreneurship (if you are really lucky). And with income in the middle class ($75k-$150k range) are still stagnant and overall opportunities for advancement drying up, its just not all that likely. I'm not trivializing anything, its just how it is. Look: I know you want to be upbeat about it, but its not looking all that great overall in the US for middle income earners. I'm not trying to chew you out or anything so don't get angry with me  , but we have to face the facts when it comes to the market: We're not as fortunate as our parents generation when it comes to opportunities to climb the ladder and make a stable, long term, income. When our parents entered the job market, you could realistically get a job that you could hold for the entirety of a 30 year period, with excellent benefits and sick time, and opportunities to advance your career. That's not true as much as it used to be.And, for the most of people that do save over a lifetime, with total life expectancy continuing to grow, most Middle Class seniors are dying with little left over for anyone to inherit due to rising healthcare costs and overall life expectancy related costs increasing. Hell, you could get a blue collar job at a manufacturing plant in the 1950s and 1960s and hold that job for decades. Those are all gone. This also doesn't cover vastly increasing tuition costs for achieve middle class income levels, increasing student debt, none of which are being helped by stagnate wages and outsourced labor markets.  I agree with you: Make a budget, save your money, but I disagree that budgets are the overall solution to our income woes. Because the fact is someone else is making the wages stagnant, and its not our failure to budget or its not because we do not deserve a higher income. And yes, I'm a terribly depressing person to be around. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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Ok, when does the next series of Dragon's Den start filming? I've had an idea: An electronic breathalyser connected to your router that blocks access to the vehicles section of Ebay, Craigslist or Gumtree etc unless you can blow under a set limit.
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Nov 29, 2016 23:46
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It would be nice if we could use the resources and opportunities our parents had to get to stable finial place, but unfortunately the previous generations have climbed that ladder, kicked it down, and set the remains on fire.
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Nov 30, 2016 00:05
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gently caress savings and a budget, I'm buying a TVR. I won't be alive long enough for any of it to matter: https://www.gumtree.com/p/tvr/tvr-tucan-4.0-s/1200695169
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I was recently informed that my mother got a life insurance policy at some point in the last decade and told my father that she was glad she would at least be able to pay for my university using that Not like that mum 
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Nov 30, 2016 00:11
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ninja edit: ^^ drat dude, that's rough. Man, it sucks reading about how hosed everything is when I'm right on the cusp of making things work. I'm updating my resume to reflect the fact I've finally done things that are relevant (engineering projects at school! relevant certifications!) and applying for internships next summer. I'm still wrapping my head around the idea that I might actually be doing something career wise within the next year. It's intimidating and I get conflicted feeling thinking about that vs how rough everyone my age has it even when they do manage to find jobs. At least I won't have a mountain of debt that'll take me decades to pay off after I graduate. Thanks, mom. 
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Nov 30, 2016 00:14
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Enourmo posted:ninja edit: ^^ drat dude, that's rough. I used VA benefits. Unfortunately, The GOP is actively slashing them right now.
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Nov 30, 2016 00:15
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See I'm a sniveling coward who would go fetal and bawl my brains out the first time i heard a gun being discharged in anger, I couldn't handle even trying to go armed forces.
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Enourmo posted:See I'm a sniveling coward who would go fetal and bawl my brains out the first time i heard a gun being discharged in anger, I couldn't handle even trying to go armed forces. Don't bother. Its not worth it. And you are doing fine on your own.
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Thats not really something to be ashamed of enourmo. The old adage of not knowing how you'll react to a gun in your face until it happens is true and applies here. Also, never be ashamed of your success, and never forget how you got there and what it took. 
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InitialDave posted:An electronic breathalyser connected to your router that blocks access to the vehicles section of Ebay, Craigslist or Gumtree etc unless you can blow under a set limit.
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I should clarify: I'm not pre-emptively ashamed of success, it's more the mental tug-of-war of "wow this is finally happening!" vs "what if it's still not enough?" E: I mean when I was doing my mechanic's training I was thinking that was my ticket to success and we all know how that turned out. e2: One of the leads in my club has a cousin who's in mechanic training right now. It takes all my effort to calmly and professionally advise his cousin (vicariously) to be very careful about who he ends up working for, rather than screaming NO DON'T DO IT IT'S NOT WORTH IT ANYTHING BUT THAT. Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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ExplodingSims posted:...but unfortunately the previous generations have climbed that ladder, kicked it down, and set the remains on fire. Actually leaving us with the ashes of the ladder would be an improvement over the current situation, in which they climbed the ladder, pulled it up behind themselves and are now standing at the top hurling stones and insults at those trying (and largely failing) to climb a sheer cliff.
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InitialDave posted:Ok, when does the next series of Dragon's Den start filming? I've had an idea: An electronic breathalyser connected to your router that blocks access to the vehicles section of Ebay, Craigslist or Gumtree etc unless you can blow under a set limit. What did you buy?
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Adiabatic posted:Drinking is expensive and horrible for you and you should take up some hobbies probably instead. But definitely at least quit the drinking. This has the benefit of improving like every single aspect of your life. Moderate drinking is not bad for you. Ceasing drinking also definitely makes a nice dinner really lame.
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Nov 30, 2016 00:36
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CommieGIR posted:
Bullshit, you are a realist - That's not being depressing to me at all. That's more "Thank gently caress someone knows the score". Whats actually depressing is the amount of blathering stupidity so many people vomit out that can be easily fact checked. If realism was more valued, we'd have a better society. Especially with the waves of utter poo poo of "news" that is utterly false that floods social media. FFS, 20 years ago the first rule of the Internet was never believe a loving word on it. BOT now you have so called intelligent people repeating Trump won a majority of the popular vote because they read it on some POS blog that couldn't lie straight in bed. The Internet really is making society stupid and it's the realists who are the single shining light in this shitshow.
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funny Star Wars parody posted:I was recently informed that my mother got a life insurance policy at some point in the last decade and told my father that she was glad she would at least be able to pay for my university using that
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Nov 30, 2016 00:47
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TT's mom in the afterlife: "And he spent it on a 8 year old $25k brotruck instead"
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There are two sides to the wealth inequality thingie. Yes, there is huge wealth inequality in the US, where the fantastically wealthy own a disproportionate amount of the wealth. That is bad, and wrong, and will only be changed with a revolution and the guillotine. However, before you bitch too much about it, consider that the overwhelming majority of US citizens live better than far more than half of the human creatures living on this planet. The sheer luxuries we absolutely take for granted are astonishing. Even those of us that don't do very well... are doing very well. You can hate the man for keeping you down, or make a space of your own that kicks rear end and allows you to have a good life. Your choice.
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Nov 30, 2016 00:50
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I choose hate the man
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Eat the rich.
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I have a budget, own a house, AND hate the man.
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Nov 30, 2016 01:01
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Fuuuuuccckkk....  
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The Locator posted:Fuuuuuccckkk.... Have you tried turning it off and back on again? 
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The Locator posted:Fuuuuuccckkk.... That'll teach that loving screen.
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gently caress. Mandatory "New Hire Connect" HR wank session for the outsourcing company I work for in a couple weeks. God, I hate the painfully awkward "discussions" they have at these things where they try to "engage the employee." Free food at least. BigFuzzyJesus posted:Dont do that at all, that website is an awesome relic, and I want to use your headlight relay mod, Ive always wondered why my windows were slow as balls and the switches had such heavy wire! Tear not - that's the part to keep. The car stuff is literally the only part maintained beyond the gallery, which I finally got operating again after my hosting upgraded PHP and broke my gallery software thoroughly. Cleaning the contacts on the PW switches and adding relays is the best thing you can do for those old switches. Works on FCs (did it on mine, mostly because the original switches broke, and I hacked SPDT momentary toggle switches into the casing), and, really, anything that routes the full PW current through the switch. I may do it on my Crown Vic to keep from eroding the contacts again. The RX-7 manuals and tech stuff will remain as long as no one makes a fuss. The internet rotary community helped me acquire all that info, and this is my way of giving back. scuz posted:The Millennial thing came up again so I'm gonna direct y'all to this here article about the Oregon Trail generation. My friend and I have been having fun coming up with Jeff Foxworthy-esque "You're probably not a Millennial if" one-liners: Whelp. I'm not a Millennial (I knew that. I'm 47, so just barely Gen X.) You need one about being able to tell a 96K baud connection by the sound alone. "BeeeeEEEEEEYOOP ba-DANG!" Geoj posted:Actually leaving us with the ashes of the ladder would be an improvement over the current situation, in which they climbed the ladder, pulled it up behind themselves and are now standing at the top hurling stones and insults at those trying (and largely failing) to climb a sheer cliff. Why would you need a ladder when you have your BOOTSTRAPS?!
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Seminal Flu posted:There are two sides to the wealth inequality thingie. They shall be first against the wall. 
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CommieGIR posted:I have a budget, own a house, AND hate the man. The Locator posted:Fuuuuuccckkk.... Ouch.
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 you rear end in a top hat. new phone, same old bike that likes to occasionally spice things up.
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Seminal Flu posted:There are two sides to the wealth inequality thingie. Honestly, this really solves nothing, and only serves to further entrench the beliefs of those at the top. Oh you're poor because you can barely afford rent and and bus pass? WHY YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY YOU"RE NOT LIVING IN A MUD HUT WITH A 30 MILE WALK FOR WATER. Yeah, things are lovely everywhere, but people have their own poo poo to deal with and honestly that takes priority. Also, you know, things are kinda lovely for people in those third world places largely because of those same 1%ers.
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CharlesM posted:What did you buy? "Portal axle military truck that I'm not even licensed to drive" was a very real threat last month.
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