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Mar 21, 2017 19:05
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Hey, do you want to buy some Big Finish Benny art? https://twitter.com/as1963/status/844287267107721216
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Mar 21, 2017 21:47
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jivjov posted:https://twitter.com/christhebarker/status/843570765974966272 amazing, but where's evelyn etc
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Mar 23, 2017 10:34
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The_Doctor posted:Hey, do you want to buy some Big Finish Benny art? I would like to have an Adrian Salmon piece of some kind, that's still the look of the 90s/Eighth Doctor era to me. (Goes to "Previous Orders" page on Amazon and lovingly looks at last year's Secret Santa gift.)
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Mar 23, 2017 13:02
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After The War posted:I would like to have an Adrian Salmon piece of some kind, that's still the look of the 90s/Eighth Doctor era to me. I'd love some of his Cybermen work. It really made the comics. 
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Mar 23, 2017 13:14
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A more or less confirmed leak of episode/movie titles on the new MST3K shows they'll be riffing The Land That Time Forgot featuring Leon Ny Taiy, I mean, Anthony Ainley. I'm stoked.
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Mar 23, 2017 14:06
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egon_beeblebrox posted:A more or less confirmed leak of episode/movie titles on the new MST3K shows they'll be riffing The Land That Time Forgot featuring Leon Ny Taiy, I mean, Anthony Ainley. I'm stoked. That was one of my favorite movies as a kid. And yeah, he's great in it too. I am very stoked about MST3K in general because I absolutely love that style of humor, but I have a tough time going back to watch old episodes because the references are so dated. I am gonna bingewatch THE gently caress out of the new one. 
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Mar 24, 2017 01:49
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Holy poo poo, the Cyberman voices in Spare Parts... 
Cleretic fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 07:08
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One of the things Big Finish really nailed was their interpretation of the original Cybermen voices. They're fantastic. This is a spoiler for the end of an otherwise terrible story (The Reaping by, who else, Joseph Lidster) but it has an amazing ending where a hyper-advanced future Cyberman travels back in time to Mondas pre-The Tenth Planet. When it arrives it is severely damaged, and when it encounters the ancient, primitive Cybermen they classify it's hyper-advanced elements (which it wants to upgrade them to) as imperfections and the probable cause of its distress. They begin tearing it apart so they can "fix" it by converting it "tobeeeeeee, justlike..... ussssssss" - the sound of their voices over the useless protests of the advanced Cyberman are incredible.
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Mar 24, 2017 11:24
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Jerusalem posted:This is a spoiler for the end of an otherwise terrible story (The Reaping by, who else, Joseph Lidster) but it has an amazing ending where a hyper-advanced future Cyberman travels back in time to Mondas pre-The Tenth Planet. When it arrives it is severely damaged, and when it encounters the ancient, primitive Cybermen they classify it's hyper-advanced elements (which it wants to upgrade them to) as imperfections and the probable cause of its distress. They begin tearing it apart so they can "fix" it by converting it "tobeeeeeee, justlike..... ussssssss" - the sound of their voices over the useless protests of the advanced Cyberman are incredible. Huh. I did't mind The Reaping, though I don't think everything about the production works. There's a dodgy performance from the brother, and I think it overplays the emotional beats a little too hard occasionally, though ultimately for strong narrative and thematic purposes. I do wish that Big Finish would have more stories like it, though. Particularly now. The main range releases these days tend to have some really shallow characterisation from the guest stars and really inconsistent characterisation from the regulars. (Ace has become a complete mess). Worse, there's no real attempt at experimentation or variety, and they haven't done a proper character arc since Hex left (the first time, Jesus that second arc was a complete botch). The plays don't feel vital, or written out of a need to say something. I mean, maybe The Reaping doesn't float your boat, but it was certainly trying ridiculously hard. I'm not sure what, for instance, Zaltys was doing that was nearly as vital. Or Absolute Power. Or The Vampire of the Mind. Or Order of the Daleks. Most of those were deeply generic at best. I mean, we talk about classic Big Finish stories, and how they're so good. But A Death In The Family was over five years ago -- the writing's not the same as what it used to be.
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I found The Reaping jammed far too much in the way of events in the extraordinarily compressed time-frame of Peri's absence (years for her, only 3 months for everybody else); had a bunch of character arcs that went nowhere or were otherwise abandoned; had a horrifically awful twist ending to reset everything back to the Doctor/Peri dynamic (the sudden explosive death of Peri's mother after their reconciliation is dogshit); plus it has that godawful and slightly seedy scene where a hidden Peri sobs while listening to her mother and best friend cheerfully discuss how glad they were that she was gone and how they wish she'd stayed away forever. The latter two in particular smacked of trying way too hard to be edgy/grim/"mature" and really soured me on the whole thing. On the flip side, I didn't find The Gathering anywhere near as bad because Janet Fielding can make almost anything work through sheer force of personality.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:08
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Jerusalem posted:plus it has that godawful and slightly seedy scene where a hidden Peri sobs while listening to her mother and best friend cheerfully discuss how glad they were that she was gone and how they wish she'd stayed away forever. I remember thinking that was one of the stronger parts of the text, and was a clever reversal of the grave scene where the Cyberman eavesdrops on the family's grief. Our emotions can render us inhuman, frail and unlikable, and the Cybermen offer a way of interpreting the world that's free of the messy emotional entanglements that make living so difficult. So, in that context, the story needs to feature sudden violence and pointless death, since that's what it's a story about. And, like, Red (which came out about the same time) is far more violent and nasty, and doesn't nearly the same flack for it. Not to say that I don't like both plays, I do, but it's not like The Reaping features the implication that the Doctor pushes people down staircases when their backs are turned, or showers the Doctor's companion in an exploded head. They're both purposefully mature plays about mature subjects, and I wish Big Finish hadn't stopped trying to do that.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:35
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Big Finish is having a Jago and Litefoot 40th Anniversary sale! I'd quite like recommendations on whether Series 5 through whatever the most recent one is are any good. I'm very tempted by Series 7, as teaming up with Arthur Conan Doyle sounds amazing.
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Mar 24, 2017 15:19
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I bought series 2-6, because even spending $100 was probably a bit irresponsible of me. Makes me sad though...I'd love to binge through 11+ series of J&L.
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Mar 24, 2017 15:24
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Curse of Fatal Death is up today for Red Nose Day!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp_Fw5oDMao
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Mar 24, 2017 16:42
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All the J&L sets are worth listening to, but Series 5 is by far the dumbest one. I've listened to every one of their boxsets and "The Case of the Gluttonous Guru" is the only J&L story I can think of that i've actively disliked.
Tim Burns Effect fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 21:49
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Cleretic posted:Holy poo poo, the Cyberman voices in Spare Parts... "The city uses too many vital resources. It will be. Shut. Down." "That's insane!" "Sacrificezz. Muzt. Be. Made." "Why!? What's happened!? What could possibly be more important than saving people?" "We. Muzzt. SURVIVE."
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Mar 25, 2017 03:04
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Jerusalem posted:One of the things Big Finish really nailed was their interpretation of the original Cybermen voices. They're fantastic. And one of them is the same guy from Spare Parts!
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Mar 25, 2017 04:06
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I don't know if Big Finish has done it this way every time, but I know in "The Isos Network", Briggsy used an old electro-larynx for the Mondasian Cybermen just like in the tv show
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Mar 25, 2017 05:09
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Pesky Splinter posted:I love the filter they use for the cybercontroller voices: I'm still not even sure the Comittee's voice is human-generated, and not just an expertly manipulated circuit board or something. The regular Cybermen sound like there's a real human voice behind it (albeit expertly filtered, Yvonne's got some great moments of pushing it to sound very weird and emotional), but the Comittee just sounds like electronics being forced to make English sounds.
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Mar 25, 2017 05:23
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Cleretic posted:I'm still not even sure the Comittee's voice is human-generated, and not just an expertly manipulated circuit board or something. The regular Cybermen sound like there's a real human voice behind it (albeit expertly filtered, Yvonne's got some great moments of pushing it to sound very weird and emotional), but the Comittee just sounds like electronics being forced to make English sounds. Yeah, Alistair Lock is the best. I really wish Big Finish hadn't driven him or Jim Mortimore away. They were BF's best sound designers.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Yeah, Alistair Lock is the best. I really wish Big Finish hadn't driven him or Jim Mortimore away. They were BF's best sound designers. Lock's been back for a couple of years now.
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Mar 25, 2017 12:52
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I had a lot of trouble understanding the Cyber-Committee 
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Mar 25, 2017 13:42
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The_Doctor posted:I had a lot of trouble understanding the Cyber-Committee I did too, until I realized that it was supposed to be a bunch of people talking over/arguing with each other all at once, at which point one of them would make a statement. Which is why, near the end, it's all the more terrifying when finally, all their voices merge into one thought, one voice, instigating the birth of the Cyber Planner.
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Jerusalem posted:that godawful and slightly seedy scene where a hidden Peri sobs while listening to her mother and best friend cheerfully discuss how glad they were that she was gone and how they wish she'd stayed away forever. Lidster.txt Open Source Idiom posted:I remember thinking that was one of the stronger parts of the text, and was a clever reversal of the grave scene where the Cyberman eavesdrops on the family's grief. Our emotions can render us inhuman, frail and unlikable, and the Cybermen offer a way of interpreting the world that's free of the messy emotional entanglements that make living so difficult. So, in that context, the story needs to feature sudden violence and pointless death, since that's what it's a story about. I understand that's what he wants it to be, but his writing is so overwrought and theatrical that it just becomes a performance of the characters' suffering rather than an examination of it - hence the "misery porn" tag. There's also the unfortunate tendency to do this with established characters, so it not only fails to gel with their lives (and personality) that already established, but also completely vanishes by the nest story. As has been said, it's no surprise he works well with actual soap opera. (As an aside, after years of trying to get my mother into Doctor Who Big Finish, she went and got into the Dark Shadows stuff on her own. Go figure.)
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Mar 25, 2017 20:47
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And that is a big part of my problem with it, none of it goes anywhere or accomplishes... well, anything. It seems to exist in a vacuum purely for it's own miserable sake. It's only "mature" if it has purpose, and most of his stuff rarely does outside of shock value. OSI contrasts it to the scene of the Cyberman eavesdropping on the family's grief (which I'll admit I have no memory of), but even then surely the purpose should be that Peri's misery at hearing her mother say such a cruel thing eventually leads to some kind of reconciliation/airing of grievances between them that exposes all of this nasty poo poo into the open so they can actually purge it, heal and move on - they deal with their emotions instead of suppressing or eliminating them like the Cybermen. Instead, from memory, the story ends with Peri saying rather miserably,"Well I guess I'm gonna stay with my mom now" even though it's pretty clear neither of them is particularly enthusiastic about the idea. Then, since we all know that Peri definitively continues to travel with the Doctor, rather than come up with an out they just blow her up and kill her and leave Peri a distraught, traumatized mess which has absolutely zero bearing/impact on any stories going forward.
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Trip Report: The Keys of Marinus Episode 6: The Keys of Marinus   "It sounds almost like the phone...was in somebody's pocket? What could that mean?" Last episode, Barbara got an urgent   "On Marinus, it's always Star O'Clock somewhere!" In a badly acted sequence, Barbara, Sabetha, and Altos, who keeps stumbling over his lines, decide to go bother Kala, the wife of the dead guard. Somehow she's standing at her door and holding it open before they even knock! [ENTER STAGE LEFT--BARBARA, SABETHA, ALTOS] Altos asks the widow if she knows of anyone her husband was "seeing" quite frequently. But since she was in denial that he was having an affair with Eprin, Kala claims to know nothing. "My husband was very...secretive. He never told me who he saw or where he went."  After reducing her to tears they leave, only for her to break out in laughter and go gloating to the closet--where she has Susan tied up and gagged! Turns out she's in league with the bad guys all along, and when the Scooby Gang realizes she slipped up by mentioning that Barbara had talked to Susan on the phone and couldn't have known that, they double back and stop her right before she's about to kill Susan with a Buck Rogers Ray Gun. "I'm innocent! I was framed! I want a random untrained lawyer of my own choosing!" Back at the court, the Doctor is sitting despondently. The prosecutor comes up and gloats, and Tarron basically tells the Doctor "you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here." They court guys put away the mace used to kill Eprin as evidence, and the camera keeps focusing on it. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! Then Barbara calls and reveals that it was the Kala that killed her own husband, and they've captured her. Despite this, Kala throws Ian under the bus and says he is the one she conspired with so he's still on the hook. But Susan overheard her talking on the phone with a guy who said he's coming for the Key, so the Doctor figures they can set a trap. Turns out, you guessed it, the Key was in the mace.  So they lie in wait and it turns out it was the douchebag prosecutor all along. The big plan was apparently just to sell it on ebay for cash. They get permission to go back to Arbitan, so they leave to the astonishment of Tarron and his deputy Barney Fife, who have never seen Travel Dials before apparantly... "What will you put in the report about how they left?" "Swamp gas!" Back on The Island of Death, Altos and Sabetha have arrived first and gotten captured by the Voords. Their leader, Yartek, is cosplaying in Arbitan's robes for ~~reasons~~. For some reason Yartek, who threw off the shackles of The Conscience, now wants all 5 Keys to turn it back on. He and his gimp suited Voords menace Altos and Sabetha, and then he puts the 4 Keys he took from them in and seductively caresses the machine.  "One moooooore....one moooooore! The Doctor, Susan, Barbara and Ian come upon a Voord who tries to stab Ian, so the Doctor uses CANE instead of MR. ROCK. It's super-effective! The Voord is out like a bitch, and the Doctor suggests they leave Marinus immediately until Ian points out they should probably find Altos and Sabetha. "Oh yes right. And Arbitan." He gives Ian the Key for ~~reasons~~ and they split up. Ian and Susan go to find Arbitan, and...and...this is a thing that actually happens: Yartek has his Arbitan Cosplay hood up, and somehow convinces Ian and Susan that HE IS ARBITAN, and they can't look closely at him or notice his giant pointed head because he was working on the Conscience and it had a power surge and gave him a horrible disease that only Sabetha can cure. Science Teacher Ian Chesterton finds this reasonable and agrees to throw the key on the ground and go get the Doctor. Oh and he also asks Ian if he thinks Altos is good for his daughter because he doesn't know him...even though Altos worked for him and Arbitan sent him to find the Keys... "Seems legit!" Now lets talk a bit about the Voord. Remember, Arbitan said that Yartek was a man who overcame the Conscience and the Voords were his "followers." But the brief given to Terry Nation and the costume designers were that the Voords were the Next Daleks, so they gave them giant helmets over their leather gimp suits and imply they are "creatures" but really, there's nothing to actually say they aren't just guys in rubber/leather suits.   "We mustn't gnaw on Voord" Turns out Ian wasn't a total idiot, he DID suss out Yartek and instead gave him the fake key from THE SCREAMING JUNGLE. They find the Doctor, who is freeing Sabetha and Altos, and Altos drops that if Yartek puts the cheap Chinese knockoff Key in, the Conscience will blow up. It does.  "Shouldn't...have got this Key...from Harbor Freight! ARRRGHH!" Somehow they can now get into the TARDIS and leave, even though Arbitan is dead. The Doctor takes Sabetha aside to tell her that he's sorry her dad is dead, but you know, maybe it's not actually a great idea to have her people in the thrall of a mind control machine...men dispense justice much better. He learned this after seeing Millennial City's "guilty until proven innocent" justice system that nearly killed Ian. They share goodbyes. Sabetha and Barbara quickly kiss, as though their magic night together was but a dream.  "Touch me in the morning...then just walk away" Before they leave, Altos suggests Ian give the last real Key to the Doctor, no idea if that will be a plot point in the BF audio so I'll just tuck that away. And that's the Keys of Marinus. A little wobbly, a little campy, a little disjointed. Terry wrote this pretty much as a "planet of the week" serial and it shows--the various places they went to on Marinus were very disparate. On the other hand, it is a contrast to the usual mono societies we see on planets other times, in Doctor Who and other scif shows/movies. The Doctor was a lot more "show up and react" rather than try to fix things and crusade than he is now, but it fits in canon as he was younger and still more about exploring the universe than righting wrongs. Overall though a fun watch. Not as great as I remembered as a kid, but I've seen a lot of stories since then. I had fun watching these, and I'll take suggestions for some other classic episodes to watch. I was thinking I could go in order to The Aztecs and then The Sensorites, or perhaps jump to the fun of The Web Planet? I'll leave you with these awesome things I found today: The Brains of Morphoton...IN COLOUR!  And this amazing thing:   He's got a lot of other art too, though sadly only one other comic like this: http://paulhanley.deviantart.com/gallery/
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I'm not sure you used the phrase 'Yartek, leader of the alien Voord' once. Kudos?
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I rewatched Creature From The Pit and I quite like it. Very surprised that it's the apparent 31st worst Doctor Who story ever. Sure, it's a bit silly and the bandit characters don't work and the monster design is rude, but it's quite fun I thought. Second-best story of Season 17 (though it would likely be third if Shada actually got, y'know, made.)
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Mar 26, 2017 12:34
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I highly and unreservedly recommend the Jago & Litefoot meet the 10th Doctor short trip. It has a very pleasing twist to it.
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Mar 26, 2017 19:32
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jivjov posted:I highly and unreservedly recommend the Jago & Litefoot meet the 10th Doctor short trip. It has a very pleasing twist to it. I enjoyed it once it got going, but it really did feel pretty slight with two thirds of the runtime being setup. Definitely a "part one."
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Oh my giddy aunt! http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/03/27/rifftrax-live-brings-the-classic-doctor-who-tale-the-five-doctors-to-the-big-screen quote:The RiffTrax crew - Michael J. Nelson, Kevin Murphy, and Bill Corbett - is returning to theaters once again to take on Doctor Who: The Five Doctors for two nights only on August 17 and August 24. They've teamed with Fathom Events and BBC America to bring the 1983 story back with that singular RiffTrax edge.
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Diabolik900 posted:Oh my giddy aunt! I've never experienced a Rifftrax before. Looking forward to this one!
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Mar 27, 2017 18:38
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FreezingInferno posted:I rewatched Creature From The Pit and I quite like it. Very surprised that it's the apparent 31st worst Doctor Who story ever. Where did you get that specific or a ranking? I googled and only found a Gizmodo list which I'm not finding very satisfying.
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Diabolik900 posted:Oh my giddy aunt! Do they release those on video or something? The UK is never going to get that in cinemas.
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The_Doctor posted:Do they release those on video or something? The UK is never going to get that in cinemas. Sometimes, but I think it depends on if they can get the rights, which seems like a long shot in this case.
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CommonShore posted:Where did you get that specific or a ranking? I googled and only found a Gizmodo list which I'm not finding very satisfying. Right here.
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The_Doctor posted:Do they release those on video or something? The UK is never going to get that in cinemas. Most of them
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Diabolik900 posted:Sometimes, but I think it depends on if they can get the rights, which seems like a long shot in this case. Usually they will at least release an MP3 version of the live show riffs! So if you have a copy of the video, you can use their free app to sync it up, or do it manually. They only need the rights if they want to sell the video with their jokes already added.
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