Tie-breaker for serial you'd most like to find an episode from This poll is closed. |
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The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve | 33 | 44.59% | |
The Highlanders | 41 | 55.41% | |
Total: | 74 votes |
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Apropos of nothing, does anyone know if there's a list somewhere of all the times that The Master says "I am your master and you will obey me"? From what I can remember he says a jokey version of it in Scream of the Shalka and it's pretty much his catchphrase in Big Finish, but I can't recall hearing it very often if at all in televised stories. Terror of the Autons, maybe?
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2016 23:08 |
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 23:37 |
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CaptainYesterday posted:Does anyone have any personal opinions of the Power of the Daleks episodes released so far? So far it's excellent. The animation, while still very much on a BBC Worldwide budget, is such a vast improvement from even the fairly good work done for The Invasion or The Ice Warriors, mainly in that it all feels a lot less flat, and the less said about the absolute garbage of The Reign of Terror, The Tenth Planet and The Moonbase the better. The use of 3D models for the Daleks was a very clever idea and it's pretty much the only monster it could ever have worked for. The animation also manages to effectively capture facial expressions, even though it makes Patrick Troughton and Michael Craze look a bit ugly. Story-wise I don't think anyone will be surprised to find out that The Power of the Daleks is also great, given that's the general opinion of anyone who's ever listened to the soundtrack. It's also got some great incidental music and my personal favourite Dalek voices. I'd very much like to see some other episodes reconstructed this way. The obvious first steps would be The Evil of the Daleks and The Daleks' Master Plan, given that they could just re-use the same models for the Daleks, although 9 episodes plus Mission to the Unknown might be a bit much. At least neither story would have to be fully animated, which is a major plus, and it would give us every Dalek story on DVD. EDIT: Another problem I can see arising with any future animation is the financial incentive. It wouldn't surprise me if The Power of the Daleks ended up selling well, but the circumstances very much weigh in its favour: it's the 50th anniversary of the 2nd Doctor, it's his first story, and it's had a lot of hype around it. I'm not sure either of the other Dalek stories would carry as much appeal, never mind something like The Highlanders. They could always announce a version of Evil that'll be ready for release on its 50th anniversary in May, but that's immensely unlikely at best. cargohills fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 6, 2016 |
# ¿ Nov 6, 2016 23:35 |
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CobiWann posted:It says something when the best Silurian story since their debut is a Big Finish audio. I hope you're not talking about Bloodtide, because I'm not sure if I'd feel comfortable calling that the best of anything.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2016 16:54 |
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It'd also be a lot of work without having a lot of the direction already done for you.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2016 02:30 |
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I enjoyed that. I take it the brain things will be back next series given the ending.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2016 19:58 |
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Escobarbarian posted:Wait is he actually gonna be a companion?? Someone elaborate on this please Yes.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 00:28 |
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jesus christ it only takes 10 minutes for flip-flop to get to the horrible dogwhistle racism this is awful e: and now they're trying to get rid of christmas. what the gently caress cargohills fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 31, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 31, 2016 01:25 |
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cargohills posted:jesus christ it only takes 10 minutes for flip-flop to get to the horrible dogwhistle racism The other half of Flip-Flop (set in the world without the slithergees) is genuinely very good. It would take almost nothing to rewrite the story to make it significantly less racist and one of the best Big Finish releases. It's not at all necessary to the alternate timelines part of the story.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2016 03:18 |
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For 7, get The Fearmonger, Colditz and Master. For 6 (minus Evelyn), get The Holy Terror, ...ish and Davros. For 5, get Loups-Garoux, Spare Parts and Creatures of Beauty. Also, if you're happy to skip stories, I'd strongly recommend ignoring The Apocalypse Element, Bloodtide and The Sandman. cargohills fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 4, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 17:42 |
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I think the biggest problem with early McCoy is just that he doesn't have as many great stories. It's super easy to find solid gold starring Colin Baker in the first 50 but even McCoy's best stories are somewhat divisive. And there's only a few stories set immediately after Survival before release number 50.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 23:21 |
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Currently listening to Doctor Who and the Pirates and it might be the best thing I've ever heard. Every audio I listen to I love Colin Baker more and more.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 02:04 |
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I can't imagine Netflix being a very good platform for a family show either. Their current crop of original content is all comedy/drama for an adult audience.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 15:51 |
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Because the BBC isn't allowed to do that. We can't have the best of both worlds in this situation.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 15:59 |
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None of it's really for a family audience, though.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 17:02 |
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The same thing it normally means in the context of Doctor Who, which is that it's supposed to be enjoyable for children and adults instead of one or the other. As far as I can tell most stuff on Netflix for kids tend to be cartoons aimed solely at them. e: Maybe Lemony Snicket, actually, but apart from that not much else. cargohills fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jan 8, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 17:25 |
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The point isn't really about individual episode quality.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 20:22 |
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Leela's going to be in the final release if that helps any.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2017 16:42 |
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Peter Capaldi just said on the radio that Series 10 would be his last.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2017 22:45 |
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Last Capaldi story will be on 25 December 2017. Oh and Series 10 is starting on 15 April. e: Yeah, I'm hoping they do the same as they did with Return of Doctor Mysterio and just make the special non-Christmas themed. We've already had three Christmas regenerations in a row and it's getting annoying now. (Although I guess The End of Time was light on the Christmas themes.) cargohills fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jan 30, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 30, 2017 23:00 |
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Gordon Shumway posted:I think it's kind of crazy that everyone but Chris Eccleston has regenerated during a Christmas special since 2005. I know they want to make a big deal out of anybody's last episode, but it would feel so novel and almost be more interesting at this point if the regeneration came in a regular episode and where the stakes weren't the entire universe. Basically, Caves of Androzani. I think they could do a mid-season finale/regeneration but remember the story immediately following Caves of Androzani.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 00:23 |
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Is that the one where they were under the delusion that Doctor Who had ever been about serious sci-fi when it wasn't written by Christopher H. Bidmead?
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 22:32 |
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Timby posted:Season 7 is great, the only thing even remotely resembling a clunker is Nightmare in Silver, and even that's buoyed by an amazing performance by Matt Smith. Series 7 is awful. Asylum of the Daleks, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, A Town Called Mercy, The Rings of Akhaten and The Time of the Doctor range from aggressively mediocre to outright rubbish. Now, season 7 on the other hand...
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 20:30 |
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Thanks, I'll check that out. I'll also consider going straight to Big Finish too. Anything I should know ahead of time? I'm going to go against the usual recommendation for Big Finish and try to get you not to just listen to McGann's stories from the start in order. The only story from his first "season" of four that I actually enjoy is Sword of Orion and his best Main Range stories (Invaders from Mars, The Chimes of Midnight, Seasons of Fear, Scherzo, The Natural History of Fear) only really require a few sentences worth of context to enjoy fully at most and occasionally require no context at all. A lot of the early McGann stuff gets too much into stupid fan-wanky Doctor Who spin-off tripe like Rassilon, the Time Lords and whatever the gently caress "anti-time" is supposed to be and a few of his early stories are easily among my least favourite Big Finish releases I've listened to (e.g. Minuet in Hell, The Time of the Daleks, The Creed of the Kromon, The Twilight Kingdom). I'd similarly not recommend starting from The Marian Conspiracy for the 6th Doctor as there's a lot of garbage (Bloodtide, The Apocalypse Element, The Sandman...) there too. If you're interested in McGann I'd instead recommend just his best early stuff and starting either at the beginning of the Eighth Doctor Adventures range (with Sheridan Smith) which is in a more new series style or the Dark Eyes box sets. I'd similarly recommend cherry-picking from the absolute best of the other three Main Range Doctors too. As an additional note it's fun to hear Tom Baker and John Hurt on audio but their stories are mostly pretty average - I've listened to the first two seasons of the 4th Doctor and all three current box sets featuring the War Doctor and there's not really any stand-out classic so far (apart from The Neverwhen, in the second War Doctor set). Basically I enjoy Big Finish but it tends to get a bit overrated, especially once the novelty of hearing the 6th and 8th Doctors in stories that don't treat them like total poo poo wears off. EDIT: A question to other Big Finish listeners - are any of the 4th Doctor stories (whether in the Novels, Lost Stories or 4DAs range) worth listening to in the same way as something like Spare Parts or even Dark Eyes? I'd also just like to express how much I'd like for there to be more stories with just the 5th Doctor and Turlough, as 4 just isn't enough. I just love Turlough. cargohills fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Feb 7, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 00:11 |
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I don't think Seasons of Fear or Colditz are good starts because there's a few excellent stories just before (Invaders from Mars and Chimes of Midnight for 8, The Fearmonger for 7).
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 17:52 |
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The BBC have sent out a survey about The Power of the Daleks and one of the questions is about future animations. Could suggest they're seriously thinking about doing more. I sure hope so.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 11:40 |
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If you're going to claim that only one Doctor has any stories worth watching I'd think you'd want to do it with Tom Baker instead of Peter Davison given the amount of absolute garbage Davison got.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 09:44 |
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I'm fine with pretending that Peter Pratt and Geoffrey Beevers are the same person.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 22:33 |
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I was hoping for more than 30 seconds.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 16:28 |
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remusclaw posted:That is a really early airing. Are they planning on splitting the season in half? You might not have noticed but they had a bit of extra time to prepare than normal in 2016.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 18:01 |
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There's also precedent for the show starting in Spring and not having a break, such as every series before series 6.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 18:26 |
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Yeah, my favourite thing about the return of the Spring air date for this series is probably the Christmas trailer. They used to do thiem all the time and I have very fond memories of them.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 19:31 |
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Started listening to the final War Doctor set and from listening to the first story it looks like yet another mediocre release. I had high hopes after hearing the second box set, especially because it had two great stories that were more than just bog standard Dalek plots ('Legion of the Lost' and 'The Neverwhen'), but the first and third box sets were as dull as dishwater. Feels like a shame to have wasted the talents of John Hurt and the character of the War Doctor on some continuity wank. More generally I feel like there's been a decline in quality for Big Finish, which probably isn't helped by the fact that they seem to only have about 5 different writers now - there's only so many times I can listen to John Dorney, Matt Fitton or Nick Briggs scripts (as good as Dorney can be sometimes). I realise that their early stuff had massive amounts of garbage too but outside of Doom Coalition 3 and Diary of River Song 1 nothing has really impressed me recently, whereas all of the best Big Finish is from the early years. Maybe it's because all the good writers get paid actual money now to write for TV or prose? Maybe i'm just burnt out on the whole thing. e: On a similar note what's up with the weirdos on those awful Doctor Who forums who claim to only listen to Big Finish instead of watching the new series? I understand being critical about Steven Moffat as a showrunner but at least there's less obsessive continuity porn on TV. cargohills fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 27, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 02:01 |
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Davros1 posted:Better than those who claim that every single episode of the classic series is far superior to ANYTHING the new series has ever done. And how dare they make the Master a woman! And introduce a lost incarnation of the Doctor! Yeah, they're pretty awful too. I imagine they have a twisted version of the classic series in their heads where Douglas Camfield directed and Robert Holmes wrote every story. I once had a look at the Planet Mondas forums and there's some awful people on there. vegetables posted:IMO Capaldi-era Who is arguably worse with continuity, because at least it's reasonable for BF to assume their audience will have prior knowledge of all the stuff being referenced. I'm thinking particularly of that time they had a big painting of the Brigadier without explaining who he was, or thinking twists like "this time the Ice Warrior has no armour" are going to be interesting to people who don't know or care what an Ice Warrior is. Eh, I'm not sure I can agree. On those two examples, I feel like Kate mentioned the Brigadier enough and that he's a popular enough character that people have a sense of who he is, especially if they grew up with the old show or have ever went back and watched a 3rd Doctor story or The Five Doctors or something. With the Ice Warriors I feel like seeing one out of its armour makes enough sense for someone who hasn't seen one before too, in that it allows them to do 'Alien on a submarine' which must have at least some wide appeal. My main issue with Big Finish continuity is that the stuff they reference most tends to be incredibly obscure: the CIA gets mentioned in The Deadly Assassin so now it shows up on every visit to Gallifrey; Rassilon appears in The Five Doctors so lets make him a super important character; etc. Phil Sandifer explains it pretty well in his review of Neverland: "Gallifrey is facing the greatest crisis in its history, all of time is unraveling, and oh look, we’ve got some fresh new revelations about Rassilon. Fantastic. I mean, Doctor Who was really hurting for all of these things."
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 13:04 |
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please dont speak ill of the five doctors Anyway it was about 5 minutes of the episode so it wouldn't exactly disrupt an otherwise good episode, whereas Neverland and Zagreus are like 8 hours of continuity garbage.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 14:53 |
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I wish that doctor who was still regularly 50 minutes too long and had incompetent directors and writers and had a shoestring budget and terrible casting and Eric Saward was involved.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 17:25 |
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Being mentioned in The Invasion of Time seems like a good reason not to focus on a character tbh.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 22:00 |
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 23:37 |
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He's definitely outright villainous in The Next Life. He even does the "your evil is my good" thing iirc.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 00:19 |