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CubsWoo posted:He's the #2 CF on the market playing a position where Fowler would probably be an upgrade anywhere but Anaheim, Boston and Tampa Or Kansas City or Philly or Toronto or Washington or the White Sox or Colorado or Baltimore or Florida or Pittsburgh or Arizona or The Dodgers.
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Chexoid posted:MLB trade rumours pegs the Jays as getting Bautista and Kendrys Morales, which sounds Okay To Me, but I kind of doubt it considering it runs contrary to Ross Atkins' whole "Speed, Versatility, and Platoon Advantages" plan. That sounds like Reddick or Fowler, to me. They're not going to sign Fowler and give up a draft pick. Jose and Kendrys make sense in that they could be had for pretty cheap deals that expire around the time that Tellez/Alford/Vlad Jr are ready in 2018/19. I still think they're keeping Edwin I don't see the Red Sox paying that price with how much they already have on the books for next year, their need to add some pitching still and the fact that Betts/Bogaerts/Bradley all get expensive real soon. Unless they can somehow dump some money (ya right) I just don't see it happening unless there are big changes in the CBA with regards to the luxury tax. IF they go to 225 million this season, they aren't gonna be dipping under it for a few years and they haven't shown the willingness to do that before. And unless some team goes crazy on term/price (I dunno who would), the Jays have the money to hang on to him. They'll probably keep Edwin, let Jose walk, bring in Reddick or Beltran and see what shakes out of the system for 2018.
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I do not want the mets medical staff anywhere near Jose.
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Nov 8, 2016 21:43
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The Berzerker posted:Yeah if Bats goes to the NL there's no way they put him back in RF. Or if they do, it's their funeral Where the gently caress else would he play?
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Nov 9, 2016 01:04
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Paul Zuvella posted:I suppose saying it's a bad stat is a bit hyperbolic. It's just not as useful as player WAR and is generally, in my eyes, does a bad job capturing who the best pitchers are. It also punishes guys who outperform their fip because of odd skills that allow for weak fly ball contact, like peak Matt Cain, Dickey or Marco Estrada the last couple years.
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Nov 10, 2016 19:46
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Chexoid posted:He basically is immediately the Jays best prospect, right? I'm okay with this. Vlad jr.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:26
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Bye bye Edwin.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:12
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Chexoid posted:I can't belive I'm saying this, but I actually kind of have faith in Shapiro and Atkins that this is a good move. Happ loving won 20 games. Signing Kendrys and not paying Edwin is bad.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:17
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The Berzerker posted:This is true. Although not signing Kendrys and not paying Edwin would be worse. I really don't see the Jays locking down 1b and DH for the next three years with two 34 year old hitters.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:21
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They can afford to and should have given Edwin the 5years and 20-25 million per he wants. I think the odds of the Jays bringing back Jose went way up though.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:26
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Ya most of the options out there aren't great if you believe they won't sign a player if they have to give up a draft pick. Though keeping Jose instead of signing cespedes is just trading up 15 spots or whatever. I also have a terrifying feeling they're going to let both walk in order to stockpile those picks and then I dunno what they'll do cause all the options are bad. Edit: Jose could probably play 1b eventually.
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Nov 11, 2016 22:32
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Jesse Chavez somehow got 5.75 million for one year and another 3million in incentives from the Angels. So many mediocre to bad pitchers gonna cash in this offseason.
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Nov 12, 2016 03:33
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mcmagic posted:Sanchez was the best hitter in baseball for the last 2 months. He got robbed. No he wasn't and no he wasn't.
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Nov 15, 2016 01:39
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Gary Sanchez is going to put up a .750 OPS next year and strike out 175 times.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:34
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I never said that it was a bad thing it's just what he's gonna be next year.
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Nov 15, 2016 06:53
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Timby posted:Wasn't this basically the system that existed before the QO, with Elias Sports Bureau's rankings determining the placement of the pick? While the picks were determined by some bizarre ranking system, teams still lost draft picks when signing A level free agents that were offered arbitration by their previous team. B level free agents offered arbitration returned compensation to the losing team but didn't cost the signing team anything.
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Nov 15, 2016 21:02
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Gonz posted:J. A. Happ. He rules.
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Just checked the stats and JA Happ indeed rules.
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Nov 17, 2016 01:32
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Whew, for a minute I was worried all the voters would make nothing but correct choices this year. Ya how could 1B win over 1A and 1C and 1D in both leagues!
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Nov 17, 2016 02:22
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Pancakes posted:Timmy, then Carp, then Waino at 100, 94 and 90 respectively in 2009. Law's ballot at least made sense.
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Nov 17, 2016 02:43
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Gonz posted:So it turns out that one of the Tampa Bay voters went to fewer than 10 baseball games this entire season. I'm not sure why you're against writing from the fan's perspective.
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Nov 17, 2016 05:15
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mcmagic posted:Who was better? Votto, Trout, Freeman, Beltre, Miggy , Blackmon
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Nov 18, 2016 00:25
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Have you heard of a man with big biceps named Eric Thames?
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mcmagic posted:Not really. He was right there with any of those guys while playing GG caliber catcher. He only played 35 of those games at catcher, which also had nothing to do with hitting, which you brought up. You said he was robbed and also the best hitter in baseball, neither of which are true.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:01
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Julio Cruz posted:Cabrera and Cano are gonna be interesting. Cabrera should be an absolute lock, he's 481 away and insanely consistent so should make it late 2019/early 2020. Cano is less certain, he's 790 away so he'll need to be productive for 5/7 of his remaining seasons (though I expect if he gets close he'll get enough playing time to make it). I don't know who's going to be next after those guys though, it might not happen again until Trout. Altuve
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Poque posted:The question was if somebody's going to do it before Trout (after Cano/Cabrera/Beltre/Pujols/Beltran), and Trout is further away than Altuve Ya thats what I was responding to.
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Nov 19, 2016 15:47
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He's really really good, doesn't cost a draft pick and probably the best reliever on the market after chapman/jansen/melancon.
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Hand Knit posted:Yeah. Atkins/Shapiro gonna have to find a solution here. Mattdormedysmullet.jpg
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Nov 19, 2016 21:24
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Julio Cruz posted:...really? Happ, Sanchez and Estrada all had ERAs more than 50 points under their FIPs this season, I'm not sure I'd bet on them being able to do that again next year. Plus now Dickey's gone they need a #5 and this is a terrible free agent class for starters. FIP doesn't work for guys like Estrada that can induce weak contact on fly balls. See peak Matt Cain, RA Dickey. And if you want to use FIP as a predictor for Happ, you can do the same for Stroman and see improvement. Sanchez is a boss and might be one of the best pitchers in the AL next year.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:05
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I want to say Segura broke out due to a crazy babip season, but he also clubbed a bunch of dingers and hit the ball way harder and more selectively than he ever has, so really who knows!
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Nov 24, 2016 06:43
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They'll just sell some equity for cash. They're not gonna slash payroll.
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Nov 28, 2016 03:20
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That Eric Thames contract is hillarious but he's a cool dude so good for him.
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Nov 29, 2016 17:41
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McCutchen was also back to being a really really good hitter from August on.
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Nov 30, 2016 21:51
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sportsgenius86 posted:No they don't give an iota of poo poo about that. It's money plain and simple. I think it has more to do with them not wanting to pay a declining player when his contract expires and their window having closed, but ya ok.
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Popete posted:To be fair the Pirates did just kinda give up last year. Even ~mid way through the season when they were in contention they ended up trading away dudes. Their window does appear to have closed but it sorta seems self inflicted this early. I think its more that they have a bunch of guys that hit their prime in two years and realized they were hosed for this past season and next unless everything went exactly right.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Yeah, it's the same thing. Do you even remember what the reason for the strike was?
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Chexoid posted:I would like the Jays to please plug one of the massive gaping cavernous holes in this team please. I'm expecting Adam Eaton any day now!!!
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/rtjr/status/804684699847237633 It's probably the 60 million or so he'll have lost by the end of it.
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Chexoid posted:https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/805498181681291264 Adam Eaton(4m), Jose Bautista(15m), Pedro Alvarez(5million), Half of Bastardo's contract(3.5). A bunch of minor league deals for RH relief depth. Some guy that can catch. So that's like 30millionish which seems to be what they have to spend.
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