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This has been a very strange thread today So Carlos Beltrán back to the Royals, right? that would be cool
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Spoeank posted:Shohei Otani is a loving goddamn monster human being what the hell This guy just led his league in both ERA and OPS? Has there been a prospect like this ...ever? I assume he projects in MLB as a pitcher but goddamn would that be valuable if he could be a useful DH at the same time.....
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Nov 14, 2016 16:30
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Is it just me or is Cano wildly underappreciated? I feel like he should already be considered a HoF lock and greatest-of-this-generation kind of player but I rarely see him mentioned as such. Also in looking up Cano's numbers I discovered a guy named Bobby Grich who was goddamn hell rear end good, why isn't he in the hall?
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Nov 18, 2016 23:11
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I feel like the Royals position with greinke a few years ago was comparable to sale and the sox; the Royals really made the most of that trade even if it seemed a bit lopsided at the time. surely some team out there could offer a decent package for sale?
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Nov 21, 2016 00:07
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Good lord just how bad was McCutchen in the field last year? I had no idea he'd fallen off that badly.....
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Dec 1, 2016 17:55
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why doesn't baseball just do the smart thing and axe the draft in favor of a bonus system based on reverse order of standings for all amateurs
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Dec 2, 2016 22:44
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It seems to me like middling designated hitter is by far the most overvalued position in baseball. Is this perception accurate? you should know that I am informs on this by both Billy Butler and Kendrys morales edit - I forgot jose guillen
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Dec 4, 2016 01:23
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I could see royals making him an offer if they still think the playoff window is open
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Dec 5, 2016 02:26
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mcmagic posted:So Harper is asking for 10/400? I feel like if his last year was like the year before no one would really bat an eye at this but now.... :/
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Dec 5, 2016 21:13
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I don't know how current this is or if it was even true in the first place but I think I remember reading that most of NBP operates at a pretty significant loss.
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Dec 6, 2016 02:38
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So it is starting to look like the Royals are entering Blow It Up mode a year early, which kind of sucks but I'm alright with considering it is better to get returns on guys rather than letting them walk and then getting nothing because compensatory picks went away or something. I'm guessing they'll be actively shopping Cain, Moustakas, Davis, Escobar, and possibly Hosmer at the meetings (and Chris Young and Jason Vargas if anyone...wants them). Plus I'd bet they'll dangle Ian Kennedy (cut salary) and Danny Duffy (get more prospects) and Yordano Ventura (sick of his poo poo). I would be very disappointed if they trade Wade Davis for Jorge Soler as Wade Davis is really really really good and Jorge Soler appears to kind of suck. bewbies fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Dec 6, 2016 16:00
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I feel like Sale and that contract was one of the more valuable trade chips in MLB and that haul while impressive is nowhere near what he should have brought. What is the deal here
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Dec 6, 2016 19:54
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The Pussy Boss posted:Moncada's value right now is approximately what Kris Bryant's would've been, if the Cubs traded him prior to 2015, if that helps. He is that level of prospect. Agreed, but Sale is one of the best starters in the game, in his prime years, on a deal that's paying him probably a third of his market value for the next three seasons. In order to make this even up Moncada will have to turn into a Kris Bryant kind of player, which is far from a sure thing, and even then I'm not totally sure if it is worth it.
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Dec 6, 2016 20:04
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Dexo posted:Why are people down on the Sale deal again? To me at least they didn't get enough for him...you look at what teams were giving up for rental closers last deadline and compare Sale's value to those guys, they came up short. It isn't like the Red Sox are short prospects either...how do you not get at least one of Benintendi or Devers? If they didn't get fair value now CWS shoulda waited until the deadline and some playoff team who just lost a rotation guy to injury or slump would have given quite a bit more I think. edit - feel free to quote this in 2019 when Sale goes down with his second straight TJS and Moncada is wrapping up his second straight MVP season though..... bewbies fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Dec 6, 2016 20:25
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Dexo posted:Kopech seems like he will be a major league pitcher. I agree, they kind of backed themselves into a corner with that. I certainly don't think the trade was a bad idea, just that they didn't get nearly enough for their most valuable asset.
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Dec 6, 2016 20:43
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I'm gonna miss Wader, he's the best pitcher in one inning increments that I've ever seen.
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Dec 7, 2016 02:35
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He missed some time last year with forearm issues but he was still incredible when he played. He was significantly less incredible last year than in the previous two years which might be a cause for concern but there wasn't any TJS kind of rumors as far as I'm aware. Greg Holland though, you could watch his arm disintegrating in real time.
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Dec 7, 2016 02:39
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So the Royals traded a guy who has had arguably the best three seasons a RP has ever had for a replacement level corner outfielder. correction, an injury prone replacement level corner outfielder. cool, cool
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Julio Cruz posted:Fair point, but if the Royals aren't going to be contending next year they could have got a couple of AAA prospects from someone and saved themselves some cash. Half a season of Miller and Chapman each got the Yankees much more value than just Soler for a full season of Davis. This DM appears to be straddling the line of contender/rebuild, and as a result is doing neither particularly well. So we're going to end up resigning Moustakas, trading away Cain and Hosmer, not getting much in return, and we'll be around .500 every year for the forseeable future. Now, I'm not complaining at all about this, mind - .500 ball for a Royals fan is so much better than what it has been and could be.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:55
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The Royals will probably be about .500 with the current lineup and rotation; it'll be a huge ask to get a wild card spot and they probably aren't going to be winning the central for several more years. On the other hand the city will absolutely love a .500 team and they'll probably make a lot more money with at least a peripheral contender than they would with yet another last place + high draft pick wasted on bust pitcher strategy so that might be where DM is taking this.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:34
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I feel like the Royals when dealing with the Cubs should have made a move for Schwarber. I guess maybe they did but I also think that Davis+ for Schwarber is a lot more attractive especially given the Royals current lack of fat guys to DH.
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Dec 7, 2016 20:41
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Adam Eaton is very good and is on a very good deal for several more seasons but that is way too much to give up for him. Is there some sort of personal issue with Eaton that I'm not aware of because I always thought he seemed pretty cool Grittybeard posted:Hell, I love a fat guy who at his best was nothing more than a doubles machine. uhhhhh you seem to have forgotten a little fellow named ken harvey
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Dec 7, 2016 23:28
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I don't wish the Yankees any particular ill will but I continue to hope that Chapman's rotator cuff will blow out like an old tire
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Dec 8, 2016 16:14
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I'm trying to think of other atomic-fastball-only relievers who were effective into their 30s and I can only come up with Billy Wagner and Goose Gossage.
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I asked a half a dozen women who are parts of my life for various reasons, all of whom are both educated and ranging from very to extremely liberal, if they found the hazing pics posted in this thread thus far offensive. 3 of the six had no opinion and 3 of the 6 found it funny. I realize this anecdotal and I have no strong opinion about this one way or another but I'm kind of wondering who the target offended audience is. Also they still use a racist caricature for a team logo thats cool.
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Dec 14, 2016 04:04
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How about just a pitcher has to face a minimum of three batters before getting relieved, that would be fantastic.
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Dec 16, 2016 16:55
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I'm fine with whatever ends chapmans career sooner, bravo Madden
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Dec 16, 2016 23:16
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It seems like the most equitable course of action here is that the Ham Fighters get a pile of money, and Otani gets an even larger pile of money, and plays in MLB. Anything that prevents these things from happening is stupid.
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Dec 20, 2016 00:35
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Schilling was really, really good. The hall shouldn't be some kind of morality metric, it is for the best players. Unless you commit some kind of terrible crime or otherwise excuse yourself from polite society your public persona/character shouldn't matter.
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rickiep00h posted:Is bilking the state of Rhode Island out of millions of dollars terrible enough? by the standards of the baseball hall of fame no and it isn't close
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Soul Glo posted:I didn't know any of these things about Maddux and it seems like he owns? When I was pitching competitively Maddux was like the archetype of what all of us wanted to be...no one was going to 8 feet tall with a 140 mph fastball like RJ or be able to whip a curveball like Pedro but hell, some of us could throw harder than Maddux! Plus, mechanics, etc! So the end result is we basically all tried to do everything that Maddux did, the culmination being when one of my teammates stopped wearing contacts and started wearing glasses during games in order to look more professorial.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:33
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I will interrupt the nth iteration of cubsanticubs chat to inform everyone that the Royals signed Danny Duffy for 5/65. That's likely a huge discount over what he would have gotten as a free agent and if he can stay healthy enough to put up 180 IPs a year it should be a really good deal. IF When he's on the dude is probably the best LHSP in baseball but he's usually only on for one game in three.
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Jan 17, 2017 20:55
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Sorry you're both wrong
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bawfuls posted:"Dan Duffy when he's on" > Clayton Kershaw, Chris Sale, David Price, Madison Bumgarner, Jon Lester, & Rich Hill This guy gets it
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Jan 17, 2017 21:10
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I'm on board as long as my avatar can feature his eye
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Jan 17, 2017 21:15
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bawfuls posted:Sure thing (though he did have surgery on it last year so it's not as pronounced as it was). Nah I'm good with whatever. that said my initial comment was facetious but now I'm legit excited that I'll have a reason to get inordinately mad and or excited at danny duffy this coming season
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Jan 17, 2017 21:24
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Man, its looking like Pudge won't make it? The hell? Pretty neat about Raines though, bout drat time.
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Jan 18, 2017 19:19
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Mussina is another guy I don't get....what exactly is the argument or whatever for not voting for that guy?
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Jan 18, 2017 19:33
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oh my god, what the hell? well, this sucks. that guy was the most entertaining pitcher the royals ever had 
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there were always rumors that yordano had some issues with alcohol. just....ugh
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