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TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues


Let's Play TRANSFORMERS: Devastation!

Released in October 2015 TRANSFORMERS: Devastation is one of those things where you aren't even sure how it happened but are glad that it did. A big western publisher holding the rights to make games based on a beloved cartoon and toy franchise deciding to hand money to a Japanese developer with a solid track record of making games out of other company's intellectual properties? Kinda wild.

Granted Transformers Devastation wasn't the first game Activision paid PlatinumGames to make (nor the last), but it's arguably the one that makes the most sense. Take the gameplay style of a company famous for making entertaining action brawlers and add giant transforming robots. Make usage of one of the most nostalgic and popular iterations of the series (the Generation One series) and really the whole thing writes itself. At the same time, the folks at Platinum have gone out of their way to seed the game absolutely full of the most obscure stuff from the history of Transformers just to see if you're paying attention. It plays incredibly familiar to anyone who has touched just about any title PlatinumGames have made (hell maybe even from when some of them worked for Capcom) but they've managed to seed into it its own amazing mechanics to take advantage of the unique nature of our cast of giant transforming robots.

So please join Coolguye, Orv and myself as we once more transform into gigantic nerds and roll-out the nostalgia goggles. I'll be the one behind the controls throughout this run on the PC version, and while Orv has played the game I've made sure that Coolguye has seen and heard very little about what goes on so we can have at least one person marveling at the great things that happen with a fresh perspective.

About this LP
I'll be playing this game at Warrior difficulty (the default difficulty) from a fresh save file, will be alternating through all the different characters you can play as and ultimately will be trying to show all the side-missions and challenges this game has. In the event a challenge requires you play at different difficulty levels in order to unlock more challenges I'll be sure to show that. If I miss a side-mission or can't complete it for whatever reason I absolutely will go back and get it once I finish the chapter in order to show it off.

Most of the collectibles are just game art and I'm fairly disapproving of wasting time hunting down stuff just for that.

Also, this is not a perfect run of the game so all SS ranks will be accidental and just as surprising to me at the time of recording as they will be to you when they happen in the video.

:siren:Spoiler rule:siren:
Please don't talk about anything that hasn't happened in the game yet, even in the form of asking me if I'm going to show off something that's coming ahead. If you really must know send me a PM, don't potentially spoil Coolguye on anything that's coming. That would be poo poo and in all future correspondence with you in the thread I will refer to you as Shitpiece or even worse Goldbug.

That said I fully expect pages upon pages of unrelated Transformers gabbing. I know I can't stop you. I can't even stop me.


Episodes
Episode 1Youtube | Polsy
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TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Characters


When the people of Cybertron began a Civil War, those that fought to resist Megatron called themselves Autobots, in according of their desires for each individual to be able to choose their path and to live in freedom. A motley collection of eccentric talents from all stripes of Cybertronian society the Autobots lack the relative discipline and overall combat strength of their foes but make up for it with their different talents and unorthodox problem-solving skills.
Since crash landing upon Earth millions of years ago and waking up in the present, most of the Autobots have acclimatised to their new home and the ways of human culture. Though every Autobot dreams of returning to Cybertron and restoring it to its former glory, each one fights to protect their current home and spare mankind the greater ravages of their old foes, the Decepticons.


Optimus Prime
Leader of the Autobots and the carrier of the Matrix of Leadership (a great relic of Cybertron), Optimus Prime is a battle-weary soul who sees all life in the galaxy as sacred and worth protecting. To anyone else the rag-tag band of weirdos that make up the Autobots would be a headache at best and a nightmare at worse, yet Optimus gives each one of them a purpose and a voice, and this respect galvanises them all together as a team.
Battle Style – The most well rounded of the Autobots in the game, Optimus can also equip the most types of weapons. His special ability allows him to sweep vast swathes of enemies, destroy shields, and unsurprisingly hits like a truck.


Bumblebee
Nominally, Bumblebee is a scout in the Autobot ranks. His small size lends to this role a great deal, and his general physical weakness should preclude him from other roles. Yet this size belies the fact that Bumblebee is without a doubt the most brave and tenacious Autobot in existence, and almost as many Autobots look up to him as they do to Optimus Prime.
Battle Style – Weak in both the damage he can do and the damage he can take, Bumblebee's play-style largely comes down to your capacity to use his special ability. With his slide you can get behind an enemy, stun them, and inflict greater damage on the enemy on a far greater frequency than any of the other characters.


Sideswipe
One of the regulars that Optimus Prime calls on for various missions on Earth, Sideswipe is rash, arrogant, and tends to treat combat as a sport or competition rather than taking it seriously. It is perhaps because of this attitude that Sideswipe is so good at what he does. He will always race to be first to rescue someone, fight till his fuel runs dry in order to defeat the most enemies, and in the end do whatever it takes to win.
Battle Style – Fastest of the Autobots in the game, Sideswipe moves around the battlefield rapidly and can utilize his unique ability to dash in and out of combat extremely rapidly.


Wheeljack
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but when it comes to Wheeljack the father might be complete insanity. Amongst the Autobots' technically gifted members, Wheeljack is the one that works on the most dangerous and morally ambiguous ideas and doesn't let petty concepts like “a high chance of failure” get in the way of what he's doing. As a result his successes are often amazing, and his failures are often still usable as ordnance of some sort.
Battle Style – What distinguishes Wheeljack from the rest of the Autobots is that his car form finishers let loose a variety of explosive attacks depending on the combo you perform. As a result a complete combo can cause amazing destruction to everything around him. His unique ability is a shield which can protect him from the front from both melee and ranged attacks (and he can fire from behind the shield).


Grimlock
In an attempt to create Autobots on Earth to assist them in fighting the Decepticons, the Dinobots were created. What they lack in general intelligence they make up for with strong wills and even stronger bodies in both their robot forms and their dinosaur forms. Though they are fiercely independent to the point of sometimes even ignoring Optimus Prime's orders, all Dinobots answer to Grimlock. The biggest, meanest, and arguably strongest Autobot that isn't a city you can always count on Grimlock to utterly annihilate his foes and everything else around him. If he feels like it.
Battle Style – Grimlock can fight in both robot form and his dinosaur form, albeit with variations in his moveset and available weapons. He's the strongest of the characters in the game and has the most health, trading that off with being the slowest. Straight after a successful dodge and parry he can also grapple regular sized enemies in either of his forms to do large amounts of damage. His unique ability allows him to do a rush forwards to grab the enemy and perform a very damaging throw.





Where the Autobots fight for freedom, the Decepticons fight for the ideal that true peace can only be obtained by a leader that crushes away all individual freedom under their reign of tyranny. To that end Decepticons tend to be combat minded and their alternate forms are often based on human combat machines, all the better to terrorise the indigenous population of Earth. To them the planet merely exists to provide the resources they need in order to restore their home planet, and to provide a battleground upon which they can crush the Autobots once and for all.
That they have so far failed in either objective is a testament not only to the Autobots that fight them, but to the Decepticon belief in their ideal that sends many of them to undermine one another in the quest to be the one true tyrant they think Cybertron needs.


Megatron
Leader of the Decepticons and founder of the creed they all live by, Megatron never takes his eye off of a future where Optimus Prime is dead and he rules over a restored Cybertron with an iron fist. He controls his soldiers through fear and intimidation, a method that comes easily to him on account of the sheer amount of power he has packed into his frame.
Many times has treachery risen its ugly head within his ranks, and many times Megatron has not only survived it but grown more powerful from it. As such only the truly stupid amongst the Decepticons attempt to undermine him openly.


Devastator
Seeking ever more power in their fight against the Autobots, the Decepticons were able to discover a way to combine the forms of several Cybertronians in order to become a much larger singular entity.
The first of these so-called Combiners was Devastator, an amalgamation of the six Constructicons whose combined wills direct Devastator's terrifying blows. If such an entity could be said to have a weakness, it is that the conflicting individual minds of a combiner are never in perfect sync, and as such Devastator can often be slow to attack or react. It's not really a weakness because Devastator will roll you up in your own health bar and eat you like a burrito.

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Scrapper
Scrapper is the one who does most of the planning for whenever the Constructicons are building something, so I guess that makes him the leader since by all accounts these guys tend to not back-stab each other like mostly everyone else does. Arguably the greatest engineer amongst all living Cybertronians yet he's also pretty humble and loyal, Scrapper is probably in this gig so he gets the contracts on rebuilding everything should Megatron win.


Hook
Generally referred to as the second in command of the Constructicons, Hook is an extremely talented craftsman obsessed with getting the job done right. He's so good at getting the job done right he's an insufferable tool to everyone outside of the Constructicons, and probably only civil to his fellows so they'll all work together. He's also the topmost part of Devastator so he really does have his head shoved up his chassis.


Scavenger
Scavenger has probably the weirdest talent out of all the Constructicons; when in his power shovel form he can detect select materials. Nominally this would be used to get whatever stuff the Constructicons might need in order to build stuff, but it's been surprisingly useful for the Decepticons on different missions in the past since their primary foes are made of the very stuff he's able to detect.


Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher's job is knock stuff down so the Constructicons can build over it, a task he relishes with his brute strength and giant drill. He particularly enjoys the task of knocking stuff down because he believes only the Constructicons build anything worthwhile, and by that token really wants to crush all the Autobots because they're all just so gosh-darn wonky.


Longhaul
If Longhaul has some amazing secret talent no one gives half a car horn toot what it is. His job is to haul stuff around and by god no one lets him do anything else. Even Megatron just rides around on him because gosh, who would use their own ability to move around or fly when you've got the poor sucker built to carry stuff? He doesn't even get any particularly interesting weapons as a result of his vehicle form. Being Longhaul is suffering.


Mixmaster
To call Mixmaster a cement mixer isn't giving the insane bot enough credit. That thing he hauls around can mix acids, explosive compounds and just about anything else you need to smoosh together in just the right amounts. Not sure if it mixes safely but considering the first thing that suffers a bad mix is the guy sloshing stuff around on his own back, it's safe to bet the guy has enough confidence in what he's doing to not blow himself up.


Soundwave
There's probably no one in the Decepticon army that Megatron trusts as much as he does Soundwave. The eyes and ears of Decepticon intelligence gathering, there's no real safe place to conspire when Soundwave is on duty and he cannot be bribed into disloyalty. Compounded upon all that is the fact that he comes packing his own small squad of cassette-tapes with their own impressive combat ability. It's just a shame his alternate form gets so outdated so easily.


Laserbeak
The Decepticon eye in the sky, Laserbeak is a fairly cowardly fellow whose small and agile frame is best suited towards spying operations. If Soundwave knows where you are, it's more than likely because Laserbeak saw you from way up in the sky.


Ravage
While all of Soundwave's cassette-bots are comparatively small in kind compared to the other Cybertronians, one look at Ravage fighting will tell you how little size matters in his case. Relentless, fast and powerful, Ravage will seek and destroy at Soundwave's command no matter the target.


Rumble
Though he is the chief spy of the Decepticons, Soundwave still fights on the front lines alongside Megatron, and as such he packs some tapes with far more punch. It's hard to find something with more punch for their size than Rumble, that's for sure. The little guy likes to rhyme almost as much as he likes to smash the ground to pieces with his piledriver arms. And to be honest he's actually pretty good at both those activities!


Frenzy
One was certainly enough, but Decepticons are fervent believers in overkill being never enough. As such Rumble has a brother capable of just as much destruction as he is, and that brother is Frenzy. Nowhere near as interested in coming off as witty like his brother, the diminutive Transformer just really wants to annihilate everything he can as violently as he can. And he definitely can.


Buzzsaw
Rounding off the triumvirate of extremely angry and dangerous robots in tiny bodies that cannot contain their rage and power, Buzzsaw is the everything Laserbeak is not, and lacks everything Laserbeak has. So instead of a self-preservation obsessed spybot you have a tiny little winged death-dealer that would probably try to shoot Metroplex in the face if you gave him the order.


Skrapnel
Sometimes known as Shrapnel and a few other names, Skrapnel is an Insecticon with a love of electricity. He loves to absorb it, he loves to spit it back out. Even the versions of him on board the Proudstar like to get juiced up on the stuff, and when it happens you get a machine that likes to watch you twitch and dance.


Bombshell
The Bombshell that has free will and doesn't serve as a terraforming device for the Proudstar is a horrible monster capable of controlling the minds of other cybertronians through use of “cerebro-shells” with a fondness for making his victims perform self-destructive actions in his name. Luckily the version on the Proudstar can't do that. Unfortunately it can still spit an explosive goo all over the place.


Kickback
While the other two Insecticons have very overt controlling methods, Kickback is much more manipulative and is able to coerce others into his grip without them realising. The mindless versions of the Proudstar Insecticons don't carry many of the bad traits of their forebears, but in the case of Kickback it still carries his proficiency for destruction with his potent legs.


Thundercracker
One of the most elite of the airborne Decepticons known as Seekers, Thundercracker serves directly under the command of Starscream and isn't entirely fond of that situation. One thing that makes him stand out over the rest of the villains is that Thundecracker's heart just isn't into the terrorising of the humans thing that Megatron seems to be pushing, and it's even less into the ridiculous planet-destroying plans his bosses seem to be coming up with at a near-constant rate.


Starscream
Megatron's second in command on Earth leads the Seekers as they perform missions for the Decepticon cause, though arguably only when that cause aligns with Starscream's own personal goals and wishes. Treachery incarnate, Starscream has constantly shown that he's capable of scheming his way to the top, it's just that has no clue what to do once he gets there. When he's not trying to exploit the situation he's trying to prove himself to Megatron, quite possibly because his leader keeps trash-talking him in front of everyone. You could say he has a hard life, but nothing that happens to Starscream isn't something he didn't bring on himself.


Blitzwing
Upping the ante in their war on Earth, the Transformers both began employing the efforts of Cybertronians who could shift into more forms than a standard robot and alternate mode. The first of these were dubbed “triple changers” and had the capacity to form an extra alternate mode and in the case of Blitzwing that's an extra layer of kill added on top of what was already a very large kill sandwich. Every aspect of Blitzwing is devoted towards absolutely pummeling or blowing up his enemies and as such he has a military jet and a tank as his alternate modes. “Subtle” is not a word you'll ever use regarding Blitzwing, and he's fine with that.


Motormaster
The biggest, meanest, nastiest inferiority complex ever created. Motormaster is the leader of the Stunticons and runs the show through fear and intimidation, his ultimate goal being the defeat of Optimus Prime. He doesn't want to do it out of any loyalty to Megatron of course, he's as selfish as any of the Stunticons in that regard. He sees Optimus as a rival big rig that he must overcome in order to prove he's the “King of the Road” to everyone.


Menasor
If there's a problem that Motormaster and his Stunticons cannot solve individually or as a team, they can still pull out one hell of a trick to lay waste to their enemies. As Combiners the Stunticons form the powerful Menasor, whose violent disposition makes Devastator seem like a pleasant guy to be around. None of the Stunticons are particularly balanced personality-wise, and about the only thing any of them have in common is their fear and hatred of Motormaster. The result of this is on the combiner's consciousness is an angry, giant sword wielding force of nature that will never hold back, and takes a tremendous effort to stop once he gets started.


Shockwave
When Megatron set off to destroy the fleeing Autobot Ark he left his trusted lieutenant Shockwave behind to keep things in order on Cybertron till they got back. Needless to say the several million year long absence was not part of the plan, but Shockwave stuck to his orders and even after restablishing contact remains as merely a caretaker to await Megatron's much more frequent visits via space-bridge technology. Cold and analytical, Shockwave has very little in the way of emotions and essentially nothing in the way of mercy.


Skywarp
Coming in out of nowhere at the end is the last of the Seeker Trio, which is quite appropriate as Skywarp has the ability to teleport (which as far as I'm aware he never uses in the game). He's also dense as the metal his body is made up of and as such makes the perfect target of blame for whenever Starscream's plans inevitably turn cockpit up. Stupid, childish and malicious are the best ways to describe Skywarp, and it's probably why he's so popular with the rest of the Decepticons because he fits in so well.



Mooks
Not content to let you pummel their named characters to scrap, the Decepticon Army is out in full force, supplying all the ineptitude one needs to make Starscream look good. I've used the naming scheme from the model viewers, if you're wondering what the ABCs are about.


Ground Soldier A
The Decepticon ranks are full of many weak workers and soldiers who fight to see Megatron's vision for the future realised, eschewing any real individuality or rights to get a toy made of them with the ultimate fate of exploding under a barrage of Autobot attacks.
They're armed with swords! They probably think the sword makes them look cool. Some of them will pull out shields that will protect them so long as you don't do one of the several moves that break them. They very rarely transform into their vehicle form, usually only to avoid having to walk to a destination.


Ground Soldier B
It took less than a whole episode for the original ground soldier to get rendered redundant by the “Sergeant” model. Though still a faceless junker of the Decepticon army these guys acquit themselves a lot better than their underlings by being capable of dodging or parrying attacks. They also attack with their fists, and will try to catch you by surprise by transforming into vehicle mode and lunging at you.
You'll most often find these guys accompanying their blue goons, in the hopes that you're distracted by all the cowards often hiding behind shields and not notice the bright orange guy coming to punch you in the chassis.


Ground Soldier C
If anyone was wondering if the third class of ground trooper would just be a family wagon or something, you'll probably be happy to know that Megatron decided to escalate directly towards “giant mooks with equally giant hammers that can turn into tanks” and probably less happy to know he's turned them on you to squish you into a pancake.
While they aren't too difficult to fight by themselves due to their noticeable tells on their attacks and their longer wind-ups that accompany them, you're really never going to fight one by itself that often. Either part of a mixed group of enemies or part of a group of multiple Ground Soldier C class robots, you'll find their high damage attacks coming at a relentless pace that will leave you constantly on the back foot.


Seeker A
Megatron's air force is lead by the treacherous “Sky Commander” Starscream, and are typically known as Seekers which was apparently a term of dubious official status for a few decades till someone at Hasbro just threw up their arms and went “Yeah okay whatever trademark it.”
This first lot of Seekers will just hover up in the sky and shoot at you for a bit, though they may also use melee attacks if you manage to catch them on the ground or stand directly beneath them. When transformed into their jet modes Seekers will generally just fly around going pew pew with much less efficiency than they managed hovering.
You'll also often find Seekers dotted around the map either up on high ledges shooting at you, or flying in set looping paths shooting at the ground.


Seeker B
These guys need no introduction, and I'm not saying that for any reason other than the fact I'm pretty sure they never actually get an introduction in the game they just start turning up in Chapter 3. At first glance the paint-job seems to be the only thing different between these guys and the Seeker A guys, but the Bs can deploy a shield to protect themselves in combat from any melee or ranged attacks that might get slung their way, and they can let loose with special shots that “translock” their opponent temporarily in their vehicle forms.


Seeker C
The final elite type of Seeker is a blender with wings and make no mistake about it. Armed with two swords and an impressive amount of speed, these Seekers can dash in to shear off their enemy's parts and then leap back out of reach before any reprisal can reach them. They make for an impressive element in a combined arms force, able to pin an Autobot down with rapid attacks while everyone else takes aim with their kitchen sinks and tries to flatten them.


Insecticons
Wait, why do these guys get multiple entries? Well, you see the thing about the Insecticons is that as they feed on energy two things can happen. Sometimes they grow really big which is why we have the boss versions. Just as often though, the Insecticons use this energy to clone themselves and create swarms. In terms of the Proudstar's lot of bugs, you get a lot of smaller sized buggers that like to stay in their insect form. They ultimately lack some of the bigger moves their larger cousins pack, but they're still probably the trickiest mooks to deal with for sheer relentlessness and constantly forcing you to stay mobile. Also it looks really funny putting them in descending order the way their profile pictures line up.

Giant Robot Claws that are eating New York City
You might have noticed the giant robot claws that are eating New York City. Normally the city doesn't have those, and I think everyone would appreciate it the Autobots got rid of them. They're not even really mooks, more like stage hazards you can pummel or ignore at your leisure. Trying to get a good screenshot of them has been kind of annoying so until then just remember... remember the Giant Robot Claws that are eating New York City as you saw them, because one day they'll be gone.
Their only attacks are to slam themselves at you from above either once, or three times fast. They also love ruining your chasing and racing.

TheLastRoboKy fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jan 12, 2017

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Lore and anything else worth posting

Teletraan-1 Entries
Sometimes we'll find little collectibles that will helpfully explain a lot of the really weird terms and ideas the game will be throwing at us as we go, and some others will be log entries of events that have happened before the game took place to explain just how all the weird things ended up where they do. Sometimes it spoils some of the stuff that's coming so fair warning there.

Chapter 1

Cybertronians

Energon Cubes I

Insecticons

Plasma Core

Space Bridge

Cyberforming

Ferrotaxis

Teletraan Alpha

Chapter 2

Megatron I

Megatron II

Starscream I

Starscream II

Shockwave

Proudstar I

Proudstar II

Proudstar III

Proudstar IV

Chapter 3

Proudstar V

Kaon Barriers

Chapter 4

Kinetic Shields

Plasma Accelerators

Chapter 5

Sentry-Bot

Morph Walls

Chapter 6

Probes

Energon Cubes II

Cargo Lift

Chapter 7

Vaults

T. Converters

Kremzeeks

TheLastRoboKy fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jan 12, 2017

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
A great videogame that I still haven't managed to complete (side missions anyway)
Will watch this later. Sideswipe is so awesome to play as!!

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012
Oh man oh man oh man. Ground loving zero.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
As a Transformers nerd, this thread has my full attention. Not so big on the G1 stuff, more of a Beast Wars or Prime guy myself, but love the game.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Geostomp posted:

As a Transformers nerd, this thread has my full attention. Not so big on the G1 stuff, more of a Beast Wars or Prime guy myself, but love the game.

I think Generation One lags behind the others in terms of general plot quality, but by that same token I'm in love with its stupid hokey toy-selling storylines and also amazing moments like Optimus and Megatron fighting each other atop a crumbling Sherman Dam with energy weapons coming out of their wrists.

Orv
May 4, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al7Bzeo-LP0

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Looking forwards to seeing the carnage unfold. As long as there's no annoying humans suddenly introducing themselves into the action,like that part in Prime.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Can't wait to be shown how this game is meant to be played :allears:

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


Wait, did everyone except optimus just get crushed by a building in that opening cutscene? They've all disappeared into the rubble and he's all "I'm fine, guys! Don't worry about me" and then drives off.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Deformed Church posted:

Wait, did everyone except optimus just get crushed by a building in that opening cutscene? They've all disappeared into the rubble and he's all "I'm fine, guys! Don't worry about me" and then drives off.

Nah, it's more like they got separated and dived in the other direction while Optimus went forwards. Except you can kinda seen in the cutscene they're all still on his side for a moment there. Still better quality than Gen-1 animation but uhhhhhh.


Jobbo_Fett posted:

Can't wait to be shown how this game is meant to be played :allears:

Me too let me know when you find someone who is good at the game errr I mean-


VolticSurge posted:

Looking forwards to seeing the carnage unfold. As long as there's no annoying humans suddenly introducing themselves into the action,like that part in Prime.

The humans have all evacuated with uncharacteristic efficiency so it's just Autobots and Decepticons punching it out! That said Spike Witwicky in Gen 1 was often more help than hindrance. He and Bumblebee were really good at making Megatron shoot at the controls of whatever doomsday device he was using at the time, so he and his dad (who was like the human equivalent of Ratchet all things considered) get a pass and I miss their lack of inclusion.

ZoninSilver
May 30, 2011
Oh I am 110% for this, hells yeah.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Can't wait to be shown how this game is meant to be played :allears:

You should go watch Chip Cheezum, then. I'm looking forward to seeing the game break in interesting ways for no apparent reason.

VolticSurge posted:

Looking forwards to seeing the carnage unfold. As long as there's no annoying humans suddenly introducing themselves into the action,like that part in Prime.

Wasn't this all of Prime, though?

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011
We're certainly off to a great start: a Transformer game played by you guys is always great on its own, but this is Platinum we are talking about. :allears:
(speaking of I wonder who I would have to kill for Vanquish on PC)

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
I'm blind as a bat going into this game and ROBOKY WAS RIGHT THATS HOW I LIKES IT

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Green Intern posted:

Wasn't this all of Prime, though?
After the first season the writers got a ton of feedback from fans and seriously pared back the humans' involvement, and when they did show up it was because they were honestly helping, not getting in everyone's goddamn way.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
I'm disappointed at the lack of potential coolguye whiffs, but i think this LP will make up for it.

DukeofCA
Aug 18, 2011

I am shocked and appalled.
I see the Autobots must face their oldest, most devious enemy.

Scale.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Coolguye posted:

After the first season the writers got a ton of feedback from fans and seriously pared back the humans' involvement, and when they did show up it was because they were honestly helping, not getting in everyone's goddamn way.

I honestly forget a lot of Prime, except that Starscream/Steve Blum chewed the scenery in an incredible fashion.

Orv
May 4, 2011
I watched the first season of Prime back when Coolguy and I started talking a lot, and it was loving awful.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Second season is way better~

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
I watched a few episodes of Beast Wars when I was a kid. That and these LPs are the extent of my experience with Transformers unless you count the Michael Bay movies.

Have any of these shows or games ever gone into the Golden Age and why their civilization declined?

Orv
May 4, 2011

Cythereal posted:

Have any of these shows or games ever gone into the Golden Age and why their civilization declined?

Megatron is an rear end in a top hat.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Orv posted:

Megatron is an rear end in a top hat.

To be fair, in some continuities (like modern IDW), so was the government he wanted to overthrow. He just took things a bit too far.

Then way too far.

Then he started building "Genocide engines", and, well, you know how these kind of things go.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Orv posted:

Megatron is an rear end in a top hat.

Didn't he have a legitimate gripe with Cybertronian society, though? The previous LPs talked about it and made it sound like Megatron, besides being an rear end in a top hat, was the dude who made everyone realize just how far and hard Cybertron had fallen. War and Fall of Cybertron certainly made it look like the golden age of Cybertron was thousands of years ago, far before the living memory of any character going by Shockwave's talk about "the Ancients."

Orv
May 4, 2011

Cythereal posted:

Didn't he have a legitimate gripe with Cybertronian society, though? The previous LPs talked about it and made it sound like Megatron, besides being an rear end in a top hat, was the dude who made everyone realize just how far and hard Cybertron had fallen. War and Fall of Cybertron certainly made it look like the golden age of Cybertron was thousands of years ago, far before the living memory of any character going by Shockwave's talk about "the Ancients."

So it depends pretty heavily upon the continuity. In G1, Megatron is just an rear end in a top hat who bands together some disenfranchised refuges and starts blowing poo poo up. Granted those people were refuges for pretty poo poo reasons of state. Like chiasaur11 said, in IDW (and I think sort of Beast Wars?) the people at the top of Cybertron were also gigantic assholes, including experimenting on their own robopeople. I think there's even a third general explanation in yet another timeline, but I forget what it is.

The end result is that like anything with ten reboots and a ton of spin-off stuff, it changes from game to movie and comic and so forth. But it always features Megatron being an rear end in a top hat.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



TheLastRoboKy posted:


The humans have all evacuated with uncharacteristic efficiency so it's just Autobots and Decepticons punching it out! That said Spike Witwicky in Gen 1 was often more help than hindrance. He and Bumblebee were really good at making Megatron shoot at the controls of whatever doomsday device he was using at the time, so he and his dad (who was like the human equivalent of Ratchet all things considered) get a pass and I miss their lack of inclusion.

Wasn't there that one time where him and Carly outfoxed Shockwave? That episode was basically a Humiliation Conga for the poor sap.

Edit:Also,who changed my avatar? Godammit.

VolticSurge fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Nov 3, 2016

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
In Aligned, which incorporated the other two transformers games we've done, the cybertronian status quo before megatron was a really rigid and brutal caste system, which is likely where you're remembering the "megatron was right" stuff. The only reason megatron could rise was because there was an entire hemisphere of Cybertron that was living in more or less abject poverty and brutality to make a decent mode of living for the other half.

So yeah megatron definitely starts out right there (and also friends with Optimus). And he kinda is right up until the point he embarks on philosophical genocide and pursuit of unquestioned authoritarian power.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Worst part about this (and previous Cybertron) LP is that I head off wikiwards immediately after watching a video to look up silly trivia about giant robots that turn into affordable hatchbacks.
Speaking of useless trivia, maybe some of the local experts can help here - I happened to have a transformer as a toy when I was a kid and (not having access to comics, series or whatever else trivia source here in the rear end-end of Europe)have no loving idea what it was. After the last LP I was thinking Starscream because it was a plane in white/red/blue but wiki tells me Starscream was always an F-15, which my guy most definitely wasn't: his vehicle form had forward-swept wings, looking a bit like the X-29 experimental plane. Anyone knows if there's a transformer like that?
Chances are there isn't and it was a knockoff toy but hey, asking can't hurt.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Nov 3, 2016

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

anilEhilated posted:

Worst part about this (and previous Cybertron) LP is that I head off wikiwards immediately after watching a video to look up silly trivia about giant robots that turn into affordable hatchbacks.
Speaking of useless trivia, maybe some of the local experts can help here - I happened to have a transformer as a toy when I was a kid and (not having access to comics, series or whatever else trivia source here in the rear end-end of Europe)have no loving idea what it was. After the last LP I was thinking Starscream because it was a plane in white/red/blue but wiki tells me Starscream was always an F-15, which my guy most definitely wasn't: his vehicle form had forward-swept wings, looking a bit like the X-29 experimental plane. Anyone knows if there's a transformer like that?
Chances are there isn't and it was a knockoff toy but hey, asking can'T hurt.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1Dogfight_toy.jpg

Dogfight?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
yeah that sounds like Dogfight, one of my buddies in elementary school had that one

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Almost, not quite - mine was sleeker, white plastic with red and blue paint and had two rudders instead of one. Maybe the guy has a pallette-swap?

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Nov 3, 2016

Cradok
Sep 28, 2013
Or possibly Space Case if you're a few years older.

I never finished Devastation, which is weird, because I love DMC-style games, and I super mega love Transformers. I guess I'll have to now.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Cradok posted:

Or possibly Space Case if you're a few years older.

I never finished Devastation, which is weird, because I love DMC-style games, and I super mega love Transformers. I guess I'll have to now.
That's him! I don't remember the guns but I assume I just broke them off or lost them early. Thanks.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

chiasaur11 posted:

To be fair, in some continuities (like modern IDW), so was the government he wanted to overthrow. He just took things a bit too far.

Then way too far.

Then he started building "Genocide engines", and, well, you know how these kind of things go.


Coolguye posted:

In Aligned, which incorporated the other two transformers games we've done, the cybertronian status quo before megatron was a really rigid and brutal caste system, which is likely where you're remembering the "megatron was right" stuff. The only reason megatron could rise was because there was an entire hemisphere of Cybertron that was living in more or less abject poverty and brutality to make a decent mode of living for the other half.

So yeah megatron definitely starts out right there (and also friends with Optimus). And he kinda is right up until the point he embarks on philosophical genocide and pursuit of unquestioned authoritarian power.

That's about the size of it. Megatron was a gladiator that lead a revolution of lower class bots with some genuine gripes, but he quickly devolves into a brutal tyrant as the power goes to his head. He demands to become Prime, which is essentially a divinely granted post, and spread his vision of domination and extermination across the galaxy. He and Orion Pax start out as friends, but fall out when his power lust grows to great. Orion is chosen and upgraded into Optimus Prime for peace and goodness and all, and the Autobot/Decepticon factions form to begin their all out war that basically kills their entire planet/god. They escape and much marketable fighting ensues.

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
There is one aspect of the gameplay that almost killed the whole experience for me. I'll mention it when it comes up in a few missions; also interested to see how you handle it.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

VolticSurge posted:

Wasn't there that one time where him and Carly outfoxed Shockwave? That episode was basically a Humiliation Conga for the poor sap.

Shockwave has an amazingly poor track record on defending Cybertron from invaders.

Not pictured: That time the Combaticons turned up, formed Bruticus and used Shockwave's laser gun form to shoot his own robot guardians and then launched him into space.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



TheLastRoboKy posted:

Shockwave has an amazingly poor track record on defending Cybertron from invaders.

Not pictured: That time the Combaticons turned up, formed Bruticus and used Shockwave's laser gun form to shoot his own robot guardians and then launched him into space.

Yeah,he's the Butt Monkey of the Decepticons. Kinda feel sorry for him.

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Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


The Decepticons are incredibly successful considering how goddamn useless half of them are.

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