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GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
I divorced them last year after 12 years. Indeed, back when I got my first Mac, a Powerbook 12", they were leaps and bounds ahead of PC. Vista was just around the corner, PC laptops were big and clunky and wouldn't sleep reliably, and here was this sleek machine, much better portability and build quality, no CD trays or other things sticking out, amazing OS, etc.

For me I'd say Snow Leopard was about the peak. They'd gone Intel, I had my MacBook Pro, all the features of the OS were fleshed out etc. Since then they just kind of stagnated as attention shifted towards iPads, and they've shown less and less interest in macOS despite their occasional reassurances of "we're still totally committed!"
Last year was when, just like seemingly everything else in the western world, it all went to total poo poo and I decided enough was enough. Sidegraded / slight-upgraded from 2011 MacBook Air to 2012 Thinkpad X220 and got used to running Windows full time again, I love Windows 10 it's such a vast improvement, and am now in the market for something more current.

In the latter years the only thing really keeping me to macOS was Aperture, and they've abandoned that. It was a pain moving everything to Lightroom, but I have no regrets now and without Aperture macOS had literally no benefit over Windows 10 to me. Conversely, 10 has done a good job (after the shitshow of 8) in marrying touchscreen to traditional desktop.

Can't see myself going back any time soon, particularly at the eye-watering prices they charge right now and the frankly embarrassing museum pieces that are everything in their Mac lineup except the new MBPs. Besides, I'd forgotten how nice the PC's system of home/end/pgup/pgdn behaviour is :)

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 20, 2017

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GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
I'm really coming around to Windows on tablets TBH. They don't seem as dependent on having a custom mobile OS as phones are, now there's Windows 10 - you get all the flexibility but can easily use them in tablet mode most of the time for the usual casual tablet browsing/watching.

iPads are nice, but silly money, especially if you want a GPS in it.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
It seems like 99% of what people complain about in Win10 is because they're too big babies to just turn them off or use some utility to block them. We seem to live in a world now where people assume that the default settings are some kind of dictatorship and not something that can changed.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
My Android phone shat itself today and needed a factory reset, in a grim reminder of why people pay more for iPhones. I still don't really want to spend twice as much for a device that dictates what I can and cannot do with it though.

revmoo posted:

Reminder that this person is defending a corporation that recently placeds ads on SOLITAIRE and now charges a monthly fee to have them removed.

It took me 10 seconds to google how to get the old Solitaire back: https://windows.gadgethacks.com/how-to/bring-back-microsofts-classic-no-bloat-games-windows-for-free-0166605/

I'm sorry, but if that's too hard for someone who posts on SH/SC, they deserve to be paying the monthly fee. Or if you feel it justifies installing a server OS on your desktop or spending 4x as much for Apple gear then... have fun I guess?

I'm not defending them as such, but people really make such a fuss over things they can easily change, and if they put 1/100th of the time they spend complaining on an internet message board about the defaults, into flicking a few switches to "off" and running a couple of tools, I just think they'd have a much better, more constructive time of it.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Mar 30, 2017

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
^ I do think it's a reasonable complaint, I just think it's blown out of all proportion. It's "this thing does something I don't like that I can turn off" brought to the levels of "this thing is literally raping me and we must boycott it and set their HQ on fire"

revmoo posted:

Or.... just use an OS that doesnt have those switches that need to be flipped to begin with. Your OS is a piece of poo poo.

I'm not switching back to a half-abandoned OS for underpowered and overpriced "gotta be thin at all costs" pieces of poo poo that their creators are literally dying to phase out in favour of tablets. Been there done that.

Nor am I making "this sacrifice" and "that sacrifice" and conceding to "well the scaling on high DPI is even worse, and touch is almost nonexistent" and "yeah we know the file picker still won't show a thumbnail view after about a 13 year old bug report, we don't know how to do it" that comes from running your favourite colour of server OS as some form of communist desktop. Been there done that too, it's a ballache, and FOSS devs are lazy as gently caress (because they're mostly unpaid)

Flipping a few switches is much quicker and easier than either a) spending the time necessary to earn an extra £1500 or so for something that is likely to be discontinued in 5-10 years, or b) spending hours configuring synclient so your trackpad resembles something almost-usable, dual booting for 80% of your games, pestering the devs for $raw_processing_suite in a 5 year old bug report complaining about how often it bombs out with a segfault in the middle of tweaking a photo, etc etc.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Mar 30, 2017

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
Apple: "W-wait! I'm sorry! I... I can change, I'll even be a little transparent about future products!"

https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/04/apple-pushes-the-reset-button-on-the-mac-pro/

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
No no, it's lovely to see them change after all these years as people finally stopped making excuses for them and walked away. I'm sure they won't revert to how they were before when enough people take the bait or anything :)

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Huge, huge lols if you think iPhones never poo poo themselves.

Didn't say "never" as that would be bonkers. There's always an exception somewhere. But I've had an original, a 3GS, a 4, a 6 and a 5S (secondary) and despite all of Apple's faults (including antenna shenanigans on the 4), my experience matched the common claim of them "Just Working". And despite all the great things about Android, I've had more bugs and random glitches and reasons to Factory Reset Yet Again then I can count.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
I do neither FYI.

Got to love the biases people have - the one they personally use is always 100% perfect and one should never say a bad word about them or acknowledge that one tends to be better at one thing and the other tends to be better at something else.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard
I'm having an affair with my ex...

Dug out my 2011 MacBook Air and iPhone 5S. After using Windows and Android for a while I'd forgotten how well polished everything is on Apple (not just of their own but third party software writers seem to put in more of an effort to make things look consistent and be nice to use)

Almost tempted to go back, at least in terms of the phone. I'm sick of micromanaging everything so that they don't hammer the battery, and doing factory resets when "Google Play Services" and the like decide to guzzle it for no apparent reason. My mate would say "but I got an Android phone for £100 and it does everything I need and the battery is always fine? And you want to spend £700 on an iPhone?" - but that's just it, a £100 Android phone does not do everything I want. And once you start loading those things up, budget phones don't quite cut it and the battery life becomes less predictable.

Laptop I'm not sure... I'm in love with how well it'd integrate with said phone, but the same spec PC laptops are £1000 cheaper - that's one hell of an Apple Tax. Another thing putting me off is I saw a story go by earlier (though didn't get a chance to read it) saying the new iPad Pros benchmark higher than the MacBook Pros which would really say quite a lot about Apple's supposed "still being 100% committed to the Mac".

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jun 15, 2017

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Siochain posted:

And man, I read this and I go "what the hell?" I've got an iPhone 6S from work, and an S7 Edge as my personal phone. I install way less apps with the iPhone, but I've had to factory reset it twice in the last 6 months. The Edge is over a year and I've put all kinds of poo poo on it and zero issues. I mean, use what you like, but every time I read about "polish" and whatnot...I just don't see it.

I... guess everyone's experiences are different? I've never had to factory reset an iPhone. Not once. I did however have to go through "try clearing your cache" and "try a full re-flash" a few times when things like Android System and Google Play Services started randomly guzzling the battery on various Androids and the fun a month or two ago when my 3T froze solid then rebooted itself to a message saying your phone cannot be decrypted please factory reset. Luckily the backup/restore process is less terrible than it used to be :)

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GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Siochain posted:

Yeah no 100% agreeing. I just always read about Android's making GBS threads the bed, and I've had one issue ever with my old S2 where I had to reset it a few times over the course of a couple of weeks because of a bad OS update (or something, I can't really remember). Otherwise they've been solid, but the iPhone has been a pain. And my big one is people going on about the "polish" on Apple products, as I beat my head against the wall trying to do basic poo poo with them - I have to google how to do so much stuff on my iPhone because its not intuitive to me.

TBH it's just what you're used to (or not). I don't think either system is completely intuitive, it's just that often Android is familiar to people who are used to things like traditional PC file management (though the meme that iOS can't handle files isn't quite true, you just have to use cloud drives or third party file manager + iTunes, and because apps are sandboxed you have to explicitly share the file from one to the other). But yeah in terms of whether one is more reliable than the other it must be luck of the draw.

The "polish" at least in my mind is in so many of the apps having pretty UIs. There's less of a difference on the phones now as a lot of apps are just ported, and interestingly Apple Music has gone from pretty to literally just plain text (but utilitarian and a lot easier to navigate than the ever changing Google Music imo). But I tend to find Mac apps prettier than PC ones. "Who cares if it looks pretty" I hear you say in disgust but for something I'm looking at a lot I do think it's not completely irrelevant for it to be easy on the eyes :)

SIM heading back into the 3T for now if only because the lack of 800MHz 4G is driving me nuts. I hadn't really noticed how much of a difference it makes to the coverage around here until seeing 2G and "no signal" so much on the iPhone.

I just use both and change from one to the other from time to time due to being a giant nerd and easily bored (the downside being often buying apps twice). I don't see the need for the competitive football team attitudes you often see from enthusiasts of one or the other (or consoles or "PC master race" etc) and there are pros and cons of both. I will say this about Android though, the "you can do what you want with it" advantage is deteriorating. Sure you "can" root but the anti-root sentiment is growing rapidly among developers who are using SafetyNet more and more, and you end up playing the cat-and-mouse game against Google with things like Magisk if you want to stay rooted.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jun 17, 2017

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