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500562 49.92%
139 0.01%
153 0.02%
500888 49.95%
940 0.09%
Total: 1002682 votes
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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Holy poo poo

https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/796042780359401472

He's following black voters around now

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Seven minutes until the first exit polls, folks. Prepare yourselves.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
another exit poll just hit the south tower

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

No Friend of Gravity posted:

27% Latinos in the early exit for Trump, what? I guess later CA returns change this, but... What?

27% of latinos is a really low number for the GOP.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
FIVE MINUTES

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

AceRimmer posted:

EXIT POLLS GAY, SO WHAT

thankfully they're inconclusive so far, so no one is melting down or celebrating prematurely

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
KEEP VOTING HES ALMOST DEAD

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Schnorkles posted:

No margin in Duval

Massive raw vote numbers in Miami-Dade and Broward

:fork:

finish him!!!!!!!!!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Trump presently outperforming his benchmarks in rural Indiana.

Nothing to panic about, but bad news for Iowa + Ohio probably.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Schnorkles posted:

:stare:

Uh..

UHHHHHH

WHAT

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
now CLINTON is outperforming benchmarks in more urban Indiana cities. the polarization is REAL

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
C'mon Ohio!!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 8s9 seconds ago
In Kentucky, DDHQ with a populated county: Fayette. 55k votes. We had Clinton +1, at 50% in Clinton +15 there.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
:siren: Per CBS News, the exits have Trump only +1 in GA. :siren:

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/796143018659221506

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Alter Ego posted:

What the gently caress is going on in Florida? Did Broward and Dade report completely already?

No, they're only partially reported.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Jota posted:

She's up with the panhandle and South Florida democratic strongholds yet to report. She's winning it

Panhandle is GOP territory.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Steve Schale ‏@steveschale 14m14 minutes ago
This is pretty remarkable - in 41 counties in Florida, Trump's share is better than the best share that any R has gotten since 2000.

gently caress

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
guys trump is going to win. i just lost $2k on predictit and im 500% shook. i can afford the money (still up $6k overall) but holy gently caress

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
FCUK THIS lovely NATION

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Virginia looking like a hyper-narrow win for HRC, Wisconsin looking extremely bad.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Chris James 2 posted:

FYI meltdowners: Trump needs VA

He doesn't. He can take Wisconsin.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Wisconsin gonna defect. So many lovely rural whites. I can loving taste it.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Upshot gives Trump an 86% chance now. Entire rust belt defecting hard. History will remember our failures today.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOMEUamYkc

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

DryGoods posted:

So the Democrats are the tattered party pushed out of all major branches of power with the petulant candidate sending a subordinate to tell the crowd to scram instead of making a speech? Uh ok, well then.

Yes, as they have been for years, as I have pointed out to deaf ears many a time as others chanted "THE GOP IS DEAD!"

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
clinton narrowly beat out trump to be declared the worst major party nominee in american history. she defeated goldwater and mcgovern for this honor. hail hillary!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Charlz Guybon posted:

Biden or Warren might have won. I don't think Bernie had a chance.

bernie would have crushed it. hillary lost with the working class whites, as expected 1000 times over, she just did so about 50% worse than most thought was possible. would not have happened with bernie, period. he would have made trump look like the elitist bossman fucker . easy win, as has been explained a billion times.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

jBrereton posted:

Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along.

seriously, it would have been agonizingly easy relative to this stupid bullshit song and dance. flagellate yourself.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
if you voted for hillary in the primary, start with 1000 hail marys then report back for personalized instructions

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

jBrereton posted:

I'm not a hillary fan or anything but I think Sanders would honestly have been crushed in the debates and by a media that was probably even more hostile to him than Trump (who it at least pandered to with attention).

nope, he was likeable, which is 90% of the fight. the other 10% was identifying with alienated workers. it's literally his entire angle, my god you folks are dense

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

DryGoods posted:

With this Hillary loss, I'm starting to get the idea you need some kind of, I dunno, charisma to become President. It could be nothing, but I think the rise of all these Talking Picture Machines really ups the need for some Moxie.

the theory that "as long as the bad people who will never vote for my candidate are objectively wrong they wont matter" has been falsified today, yes

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

theflyingexecutive posted:

I have another thought: everyone completely hosed up at how craven the religious and esp evangelicals were to endorse a walking mortal sin. In a world where beliefs actually mattered, turnout would have been subterranean

this is true, they are just GOP lackeys at the end of the day

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Homework Explainer posted:

extremely correct. tim kaine would have done just as poorly, pretty much for the same reasons as clinton

biden and sanders had the working class cachet to make that case and in all likelihood would have won

i think tim kaine would have done slightly better for demographic reasons/lack of scandals, but yeah, biden and sanders would have won outright

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

jBrereton posted:

I am a guy who would have voted for Sanders in the US. He was not likeable, though. His hoarse voice from a lifetime spent shouting things/over people was a telltale sign that he was a guy who did not get his way as much as he liked. People pick up on that stuff.

And being branded a ~socialist~ by all of the news media only plays well to some working class people, certainly not all of them. I can just imagine Trump rolling out the quotes about his position being great until he ran out of other people's money etc. right left and centre.

Anyway, we're where we're at!

he was provably likeable according to polls, albeit only at a +5-10 basis. Clinton was -15, though, which is historically weak. I'm not saying Sanders was a great or even good candidate, just that he was better than the worst candidate in history, Hillary Rodham Clinton

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Yinlock posted:

because hillary has 2 decades of media poo poo flinging and trump is donald trump

who knows what skeletons lurked in bernie's closet

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur, let's just ignore that huge malus and vote for her anyway to make a point!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Yinlock posted:

malus
noun
the return of performance-related compensation upon the discovery of deficient performance

what?

the BAD THING, friend, the BAD THING. people hated her even before she ran, and hated her more when she started to run. thats bad! if 60% of people hate you in an election you might lose, even against someone that 65% of people hate. all it takes is a quirk in the electoral college. poof!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
reminder that the Nevada Culinary Union won Clinton a legit swing state and a senate seat despite her abysmal performance, proving that working people truly trump the loathsome capital milquetoasts

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

jBrereton posted:

Because he exists in the same utopian headspace as Leon Trotsky does for left wing 19 year olds.

He could have taken a Dukakis-grade kicking before the Trump Train but didn't (he might not have!). He could have steadily caved to increasingly right-wing positions but didn't have to (and hey might never have!). And so he gets to live on forever as Americorbyn (but without any of the disappointing reality).

sounds great! he might have even had some college turnout like obama and unlike hillary. drat, inspiring people is such a boon, who could have foreseen...........

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
i say this every day, every night, and it's so loving true: Sanders. was. a. better. candidate. than. Hillary. Clinton. and. it's. not. close.

i mean, Rubio was a better candidate than Trump, too, but we settled on a battle between crippled candidates and lost a tossup.

and Sanders wasn't even that good!!!! gently caress!

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