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Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

King of Solomon posted:

Hopefully, at minimum, proof of the election being hacked would lead to the states investing in more secure voting systems.

Even that's probably pretty optimistic, though!

Yeah, a civic institution that relies on old folks volunteering to sit around a church or school lobby on a Tuesday morning once a year is definitely going to have the money or energy to perform a thorough security audit.

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Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

JeffersonClay posted:

The point isn't that he lost, the point is that he lost by more than Hillary despite being generally viewed as more progressive. Similarly, blue dogs like Joe Manchin outperformed hillary by a significant margin. These data points do not suggest the answer for Democrats is as simple as "be more progressive".

And yet numerous studies have shown that most of the country has polarized over the last decade or two, and there is no more "center" to appeal to. Drumpf didn't win because Dems jumped ship to the Repbulican party, they lost because there were just less Dems at the polls in the first place, probably due to a fun combination of voter suppression and a milquetoast centrist candidate.

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