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scotus is going to overturn the gay marriage decision. at best they'll make it a state's right but more likely theyll ban it entirely. so i hope people enjoyed being married for a few years before literally murdering homosexuals became legal in the 2017 NOHOMO ACT
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corn in the bible posted:scotus is going to overturn the gay marriage decision. at best they'll make it a state's right but more likely theyll ban it entirely. so i hope people enjoyed being married for a few years before literally murdering homosexuals became legal in the 2017 NOHOMO ACT if this actually happens, there's one silver lining: A whole bunch of white men are going to get taken down a peg thanks to the guy they seemed to overwhelmingly support i don't know what the gently caress gay men were doing this election but they deserve what Trump is going to do to them
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If this exit poll is accurate, LGBT support for Trump was actually really low. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/09/just-14-percent-of-lgbt-people-voted-for-donald-trump-exit-poll-reveals/ It's crazy to think that Trump support from Latino voters was like twice as high.
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I'm glad I get to look forward to no employment or housing protection for another 4 years. I feel like gay marriage will become a state by state thing again. I truly don't know about Lawrence v Texas.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:23
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Nice thread you got here... would be terrible if something bad happened to it
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Karl Barks posted:Nice thread you got here... would be terrible if something bad happened to it too hung over rn op is right in a blistering sarcastic way tho
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Nov 9, 2016 20:27
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the 5 justices who pushed gay marriage through are still alive and on the court. I guess if RBG dies, but if that happens everything will be bad LOL
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Nov 9, 2016 20:29
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gay people are gonna be fine. they're too good for business. it'd be like heavy industry going back to tractors after discovering how awesome it is to build and sell tanks
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She's a human, and she's comin'
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Karl Barks posted:the 5 justices who pushed gay marriage through are still alive and on the court. Ginsberg is 83 years old
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LegoPirateNinja posted:gay people are gonna be fine. they're too good for business. it'd be like heavy industry going back to tractors after discovering how awesome it is to build and sell tanks Same reason weed (probably) will be left alone
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LegoPirateNinja posted:gay people are gonna be fine. they're too good for business. it'd be like heavy industry going back to tractors after discovering how awesome it is to build and sell tanks You, uh, might want to look at what happened to the Dow when Trump was elected before you go around saying Republicans won't do something because it'd be bad for business. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Lastgirl posted:too hung over rn hope you're nursing that hangover well BTW.. Gatorade!!!
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corn in the bible posted:Ginsberg is 83 years old Stevens was 90 when he retired 6 years ago and he's still alive. She's a reasonably healthy elderly woman, she can suck it up and not die for four years.
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The Larch posted:You, uh, might want to look at what happened to the Dow when Trump was elected before you go around saying Republicans won't do something because it'd be bad for business. The same DOW that's up 264 points?
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Nov 9, 2016 21:00
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How can Trump appeal a Supreme Court decision in same sex marriage? Serious question, because now I know he has the house and possibly the Supreme Court when one of the judges steps down
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Nov 9, 2016 21:09
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Pass a new law that goes against previously held Supreme Court decision. Enforce the new law. That's all it takes. Hopefully, eventually the unconstitutional law would be contested and brought back to the Supreme Court and struck down but there's a lot of time for loving people over in the meantime.
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A Pale Horse posted:Stevens was 90 when he retired 6 years ago and he's still alive. She's a reasonably healthy elderly woman, she can suck it up and not die for four years. Uhh, you do know she's had two bouts with cancer already and had to have a heart procedure a couple years ago, right?
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fwiw most commentators on the supreme court think roe v wade is dead if kennedy retires, but obergefell probably will stand
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MaxxBot posted:If this exit poll is accurate, LGBT support for Trump was actually really low. Good percentage of latinos are catholic. They hate abortion with the fury of 1000 suns and, last I checked, do not like gay people.
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LegoPirateNinja posted:gay people are gonna be fine. they're too good for business. it'd be like heavy industry going back to tractors after discovering how awesome it is to build and sell tanks this
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Docahedron posted:Good percentage of latinos are catholic. They hate abortion with the fury of 1000 suns and, last I checked, do not like gay people. The former is overstated and the latter isn't true anymore, people keep repeating this 90s-2000s era talking point, things change. 
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dont mind me just settin my gay lures over here
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ohhh nm looks like we already caught one or two
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Also as shown by polling of Catholics in the US, they generally don't give a gently caress about the church teachings. They have supported gay marriage at higher rates than the general public in every poll I have seen.
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MaxxBot posted:Also as shown by polling of Catholics in the US, they generally don't give a gently caress about the church teachings. They have supported gay marriage at higher rates than the general public in every poll I have seen. are you trying to tell me that neoliberals are out of touch? becuase that is like saying fire is hot.
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Al! posted:dont mind me just settin my gay lures over here got my poke balls ready
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actually, God-Emperor Trump is pretty cool with gay people
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I doubt it, to be real for a sake It would be pretty poisonous to tell people (even the GAYES) that they have to un-marry. That might be too cruel even for Trump.
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Nov 11, 2016 11:07
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Trump's official position on gay marriage is "let the states decide".
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Trump doesn't have to do it, he can leave it up to his ultraconservative allies throughout government. He might even pass some new Religious Freedom law stating that the Feds have no business controlling who can marry, leaving the legality up to the states, or cities, or local communities to decide. That would please lots of deep red staters whilst allowing gay people to flee to the coasts as usual. edit: beaten, and more concisely too.
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gay marriage is wildly popular now and abortion is still roughly 50/50 so my guess is roe becomes a higher priority for a trump appointee and court than obergefell. it might be handled incidentally because we live in the time of monsters
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Fargo Fukes posted:Trump doesn't have to do it, he can leave it up to his ultraconservative allies throughout government. He might even pass some new Religious Freedom law stating that the Feds have no business controlling who can marry, leaving the legality up to the states, or cities, or local communities to decide. That would please lots of deep red staters whilst allowing gay people to flee to the coasts as usual. The president doesn't make laws. Only Congress does. The president can only influence domestic laws by talking with Congress, and vetoing laws. He isn't going to do either when Congress tries to ban same sex relations.
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Homework Explainer posted:gay marriage is wildly popular now and abortion is still roughly 50/50 so my guess is roe becomes a higher priority for a trump appointee and court than obergefell. it might be handled incidentally because we live in the time of monsters There's probably no way Roe v. Wade gets struck down considering Anthony Kennedy and David Souter (both Repub appointments) actually defended it before and it's also supported by like 70% of the population and also that fuckhead Scalia died, who was the one who wanted it gone the most. Most of the court doesn't support partial birth abortions (AKA the one where they chop the baby up and pull it out, which accounted for 0.17% of all abortions) but they still support abortion rights. BlueberryCanary posted:The president doesn't make laws. Only Congress does. The president can only influence domestic laws by talking with Congress, and vetoing laws. He isn't going to do either when Congress tries to ban same sex relations. It would be really, really hard to tell people to un-marry and would probably be a bad move, politically. Most people have seen that America doesn't crumble when the gay can get married by now, I'd like to think.
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Teikanmi posted:There's probably no way Roe v. Wade gets struck down considering Anthony Kennedy and David Souter (both Repub appointments) actually defended it before and it's also supported by like 70% of the population and also that fuckhead Scalia died, who was the one who wanted it gone the most. Most of the court doesn't support partial birth abortions (AKA the one where they chop the baby up and pull it out, which accounted for 0.17% of all abortions) but they still support abortion rights. personally I don't think Roe v Wade will ever be overturned because it gets the evangelical voting block/singe issue Catholics/others to the polls (for Republicans) too well. However a republican house and senate and the state legislatures could easily make it near impossible to get access to abortions while continuing to talk about overturning Roe v Wade (thus getting those same voters out) into eternity.
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My take: -Trans people out of the military. I doubt that'll stay. We may see the return of DADT, pre-DADT policy, or no change. -In terms of same-sex marriage? It's a very, very sticky situation. The precedent is there, and appointing Scalia 2.0 isn't going to change it since it's still 5-4 with the new one. The court would also have to wrangle with effectively divorcing everyone. -DOMA may make a return, may not. Again, 5 votes against it currently. -Bathroom laws are going to be the LGBTQ oppression du jour, though they may get nuked, who knows.
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Poco posted:personally I don't think Roe v Wade will ever be overturned because it gets the evangelical voting block/singe issue Catholics/others to the polls (for Republicans) too well. Then it creates the underground, more dangerous and expensive market - an even worse option. I guess time will tell, but I'll try to be hopeful that social rights don't get completely buttfucked by this congress.
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