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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

LMAO @ people that were in favor of a pro-Muslim genocide politician just because she praised St. Bernard.

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

jimmy carter is still alive

He supported William Calley.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ace of Baes posted:

I hope the 2020 Democratic nominee campaigns largely on income inequality (which is sure to be worse in 4 years) and raising the federal minimum wage and on implementing national single payer healthcare.

Also, that racism doesn't exist because Billy Bob Ray Sue Cletus III has a heroin problem.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Sylink posted:

I think this election showed she is timid and won't take risks. She can help but needs to back the gently caress off.

"gently caress the DNC for putting it's thumb om the scales! gently caress Liz Warren for not putting her thumb on the scales!"

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Cory Booker can give a good speech and is very personable. That's literally all you need to win elections today.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

it's not so much that they didn't focus on economics - they did. it's that they didn't focus on economics framed toward specific segments of the population that tilted the electoral college.

i think there's also some sort of myth here that democrats never focus on economics arguments and that's why they lose. in 2014, the entire dem message was economics! they basically ran on raising the minimum wage and college affordability but no one gave a poo poo.

At least n the current cycle, they had a plan - a very good, progressive plan - but refused to even try to advertise it. All of Clinton's ads were pointing out how lovely Trump is. Everyone knows Trump is a lovely person. Few people knew how that would negatively affect them personally, and they didn't even try to explain that.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Zeris posted:

You can have any number of wives and ex-wives, but you need at least one

Oh, he's single?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

someone needs to find the exact point in time neoliberalism took hold in the democratic party and erase the people responsible for it

When we tried to run an ultra progressive and lost 49 states.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Fiction posted:

Socialists and progressives are responsible for all of the good things the Democratic party has done, and they happened in spite of-not because of- the party structure.

What about the eugenics movement

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Fiction posted:

I said good.

Eugenics was a progressive invention.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Fiction posted:

I'll concede the point and the argument even though it doesn't contradict me since it never got passed, though.

What's stopping Russ Feingold from running in 2020?

A guy who lost two straight senate races? Who does he think he is, Abraham Lincoln?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

mugrim posted:

Al Franken.

Relatively progressive, midwest likes him, verbally knows how to go after dudes like Trump.

A TV star? In the White House?!

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

In what ways does Franken fail the purity test? He's been a senator for 8 years now, and is pretty good with a phrase and smart.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

you know, i was at rootscamp this year and a group called "people for bernie sanders" had a table with a bernie poster and "hindsight is 2020." i went to a hfa session and it was kind of funny to hear just how angry it made all of their staffers.



How many pictures did they have to go through to find one with his hair looking that good?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

But, like, no one besides Gabbard really backed Bernie, all the big name folks stayed neutral until there was a winner. That doesn't really leave any options.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I feel like this election might be her Michelle Obama moment where she's finally 100% with this poo poo.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Yinlock posted:

i believe that was a long time ago when the government openly laughed at her for daring to be female and wanting to run anything at all

all idealism was crushed mercilessly in a single day and now we have hillary bot 5000

I feel like that motivated her to keep trying, but now she's done. Or not, I don't know, I don't know the person.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Health care premiums are going to drop like a rock due to removal of the state line prohibition and everyone setting up shop in Delware. Then when their insurance turns out to be total poo poo that doesn't cover anything, they'll blame government regulations.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ego-bot posted:

Good news everybody! Democrats will learn nothing from 2016.

https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/803640907245514752

2016 Dem autopsy synopsis: gently caress 'em. We didn't want their votes anyway.

Hold up lets put a lot of stock in the opinions of a democrat who decided he was pro-choice like 5 minutes ago as he concern-trolls to the Wall Street Journal

Also Pelosi is smart and good.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

So, what was the issue with Franken? The discussion kind of died on that. The major downsides I see are "not Bernie Sanders, the only acceptable politician" and "kind of a smug prick sometimes"

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

CubsWoo posted:

- Age potentially a factor (will by 69 during 2020 campaign) but may not be as much of a factor given Trump's age

Jesus how are all these people so old

Anyway so what happens if Booker gets nominated because he's likable and can show empathy and emotion?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

The Nastier Nate posted:

:member: when the GOP was the party of geriatrics who are about to die off and usher in an age of liberalism?

Oh great another South Park emote.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


I wonder if her peaceful anti-government protest will get a barrel bomb dropped on it like her hero Assad.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

paranoid randroid posted:

also, she was a big HRC fan so i doubt she would prosper in the current forum environment

I don't think that's true, I seem to very specifically recall her unironically saying "Hitlery" back in the day.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Franken/Boot Edge Edge 2020

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Alter Ego posted:

Why was Tulsi Gabbard considered a viable standard bearer for anything again?

The only litmus test for the left is with bernie or against bernie

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I don't care how much foreign wrong think anyone has as long as they support uhc and aggressive wealth redistribution domestically.

Found the LBJ voter

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Tulsi was only anti Libya because letting Ghadaffi murder everyone would have led to markedly less Muslims

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Fast Luck posted:

Are people juts going to keep peddling this thoroughly debunked bullshit eternally or is zegermans a special case

Noted mentally stable dictator Ghadaffi was totally not about to exterminate every person in rebel strongholds from the air before the Europeans intervened of course.

Anyway as soon as Trump starts war with Iran, Tulsi will be cheerleading because it means more Muslim blood for her elephant god.

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Vox Nihili posted:

Hillary-aligned talking heads have been trying to shank her with things like this ever since she endorsed Sanders. All the Dems stood up and clapped for Trump when he walked into the room, when he mentioned protecting Israel, etc., but apparently Tulsi also clapped for something else? Oh no!

Meanwhile she's anti-PATRIOT Act, pro-legalization, pro-refugee, green, etc. etc.

She supports cuts to military spending but still maintains the reputation of a veteran with the pro-military types.

Of course liberals hate her, she could actually win something.

loving Clinton's incompetence saddled us with the horrifying specter of the Trump presidency! Our only hope is to swing haaaard left, and nominate his biggest fan in the entire Democratic house.

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Fast Luck posted:

you dumb propaganda slurping tool, over 5 years on and you've still got warmongering bullshit embedded in your brain as fact.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...ublished-16-17/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/14/mps-deliver-damning-verdict-on-camerons-libya-intervention

hrm interesting. Do you think they went after Ghaddafi because he was trying to form a non-Rothschild controlled gold-backed currency to trade oil?

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