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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Lastgirl posted:

No, no you're not. [takes you behind the wood shed with a heavy sigh] :smith:

Neoliberalism is dead.

Tell me about the market-based solutions, George.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Hey dummies, if you're seriously thinking about running a celebrity for president then Hollywood stars are dead on arrival. People loving hate Hollywood stars and their limousine liberal bullshit.

If you want a presidential celebrity who can appeal to the working class, then run an MMA fighter.

Run Jeff Monson.



Born in St. Paul, and he could kick Donald Trump's rear end no contest.



He's our fuckin' guy.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I can see the ad now. A worker is being brow-beaten by their rear end in a top hat boss, who appears vaguely Trump-like. Suddenly Jeff Monson bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man and puts the boss in a wicked submission hold.

"THESE PEOPLE DESERVE $15 AN HOUR!!! GIVE THEM ALL A RAISE & SAY UNCLE!!!"

"Uncle! Uncle! UNCLE!!! :qq:"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

he moved to russia and praised putin a bunch and became a russian citizen

Oh no. A Presidential candidate with close ties to Russia & Putin? :lol:

I dunno just how much in bed he is with Putin, because he's still a member of the IWW, and he wants to join the Russian Communist Party.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

theflyingexecutive posted:

I wonder how hard the dems could test the "lol nothing matters" hypothesis

I wonder how much November 4th will suck when we realize it only works for trump

Obsession with optics and image control are why half the country doesn't vote. Trump is not a unique figure who could only not have "reality" apply to him. The fact is that the social paradigm has shifted massively from the point decades ago, where respectability & decorum were the most important elements of public life. Being too cowardly to take a risk on figures that would actually resonate with the Democratic base, is why they lost the easiest election in history to the most hated presidential candidate ever.

The presidential candidate doesn't have to be a graffiti-spraying MMA anarchist, but it sure as Hell couldn't hurt any more than running a buttoned down upper class ghoul.

theflyingexecutive posted:

otoh it will be really really really easy to run a young, invigorating person against an obese grandpa. It'll be Clinton 92 with all the jogging and poo poo vs a saggy fatass who eats like a frat boy and gets winded from long plane flights

We don't really need an American Trudeau. Americans are fat and unhealthy. They'll relate more to a slob, or to the buffed out ring warriors they idolize.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sylink posted:

Rich man who doesn't actually care about other people supports other rich man ?!?!?

Remember when Lil' Wayne said he doesn't identify with BLM because he's rich? It doesn't matter where you came from, your current class status completely skews your whole outlook on life.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Shinjobi posted:

I got into a twitter slapfight with some dumbshit alt right guy I know. He was trying to get #SelloutSanders trending for some reason.

Kid flat out doesn't understand politics. Wanted Bernie to hold out instead of giving all donations to the dnc. Wouldn't have changed anything save for a severe lack of Bernie in the DNC right now in our hour of need.

I get it, babby's first election and all that jazz, but I told him to get back to me in four years and tell me Sanders was a bigger sell out than what we've got.:shrug:

None of them would have voted for Sanders anyway, because he is either a cuck, or a Jew, or a socialist, or all of the above.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's hard to imagine a world where history didn't happen, and the Clintons hadn't spent decades filling Democratic leadership with their cronies & cultivating a sycophantic media.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, even more fracturing and bitterness, that'll loving help.

Yes? If people aren't allowed the chance to have a "referenda" on the direction the Democratic party should take, then you could just end up repeating the same mistakes of the Clinton coronation. You can't force unity. You can't badger people into feeling enthusiastic about the establishment pick.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

theflyingexecutive posted:

Trump did the most unspeakable things to the other candidates during the primaries and continued to trash them during the general and almost all of their constituents came home, if only against Hillary. Hillary and trump did a great job tearing down trump and people on the left sure do hate him, but then they stayed home. The primary season is too long

Trump's opponents were all scum, and nobody really cares if they're disrespected.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The pro-corporate and Natsec dems are all going to sell us out just like the Blue Dogs did during the Bush & Obama years. The reason people tend to have such a hardon for "ideological purity" is because moderates & compromisers are Quislings who will stab you in the back at the first opportunity!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Condiv posted:

in the worst case we can run a left-wing entertainer. maybe will ferrell/lena dunham 2020?

Democratic Presidential Nominee Linn-Manuel Miranda :suicide:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Could Stone Cold Steve Austin run as a Democrat? I looked it up and The Rock is a Republican.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Jonny 290 posted:

danny glover's a socialist just sayin

I am not too old for THIS SHT *unfirls the red flag*

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

loquacius posted:

50% of conservatives hate Donald Trump, and 100% of liberals despise him. Just tryna think outside the box bro

I had a Jon Stewart For President 2004 t-shirt back in the day though, I'd dig that thing up if it was a thing in 2020

People hate Bill Maher because he's a smug turd, and if he tried exercising his liberal superiority complex on a campaign stage people will reflexively vote against him.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Baloogan posted:

imagine writing this

imagine all the posters
reading every one

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