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If I was Time Magezine's person of the year, why do people give me looks when I put it on my Resumé? 
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I was just going to reference this. loving Time is so bad. During the 1950s Time was the Fox News of the era, they were hot in pursuit of any reds that needed rooted out of the Army and State Department.
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Lemming posted:Lol jesus! What does "SF" area mean, exactly? I'm actually further out in the East Bay, district 16 specifically. This was specifically just the city of San Francisco, so 19 and 17. I believe the person who said that was from DSA East Bay unless I'm getting my memories mixed up (I have been to a lot of political meetings in the last month) and had been a delegate before (poor fuckers from district 2, tho - live on the wrong side of Santa Rosa and whoops! you gotta campaign in an area that goes all the way up to the Oregon border! Sort of suspect that might be on the list for redistricting once bay area sprawl makes santa rosa the closest affordable town on 101N from SF) ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 05:20 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Lemming posted:Lol jesus! What does "SF" area mean, exactly? I'm actually further out in the East Bay, district 16 specifically. oh hey guess I'll be seeing you at the Lafayette library then
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Dec 5, 2016 05:22
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Raskolnikov38 posted:oh hey guess I'll be seeing you at the Lafayette library then Hell yeah vote for me
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Lemming posted:Hell yeah vote for me only if you vote for me
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radical meme posted:More people in this thread need to get their story straight; was it the candidate or the message? It's both she's a lovely candidate who ran on a lovely message because she's a lovely candidate so the message was poo poo Don't play coy games about this, Hillary was an utter failure and will be remembered as such. Saying "oh, well, if you say SHE'S the problem, doesn't that mean... triangulation... is good?  " is a dumb dodge that might work in pedantland but not in anywhere else. Her message was terrible. Her campaign was terrible. She was terrible.the cascade of failures through the whole thing and the utter failure of the campaign to do basically anything right are gonna be the real story, cause everyone watched trump gently caress up over and over all you gotta do is peruse some fuckin' headlines. It was an utter failure to do anything at all except line the pockets of the people close to the campaign. That's what we thought Trump's candidacy was, and it fuckin' SHOULD'VE been except Hillary's was the goddamn same thing and now his presidency will do it.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:only if you vote for me Hell yeah Wait, can we? Is it one vote per person?
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Lemming posted:Hell yeah you vote for seven male and seven female delegates per district
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you vote for seven male and seven female delegates per district Oh sick 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:only if you vote for me GoonSlate!
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For races like this, people have no loving clue who to vote for, you could really win this if you're willing to walk. You should try to find out if other candidates have access to the VAN. If so, find out if you can get it too. It'll dramatically increase your effectiveness.
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I'm just going to leave this here:Politico Man watches Bannon documentaries posted:In roughly reverse chronological order, starting with the Robertson doc, I went down the Bannon rabbit hole. Soon, I would realize that the average Bannon film had all the filmic subtlety of an R. Kelly slow jam (beneath a voiceover about Sarah Palin’s many political enemies, we see a man choking another man over a table); all the historicity of a Dan Brown novel (The bank bailouts happened because hippies gathered at Woodstock?) and, in some cases, the shelf life of arugula. The same day I started watching the Robertson film, released to select theaters on October 7—as scooped by Breitbart!—news broke that “Duck Dynasty” had been cancelled.
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radical meme posted:More people in this thread need to get their story straight; was it the candidate or the message? Hey if Hillary's campaign and messaging had been doing the right things we wouldn't be in this mess. This really isn't personal for the democrats
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So we're just going to ignore the Russians, the FBI, the voter suppression laws and the media pushing a goddamn horserace narrative no matter the cost? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Well that's the frustrating thing is that it was in some sense a squeaker, there's so many factors that could have been improved any single one could have turned the election around. Sadly we can't change those things about wikileaks, comey, voter suppression etc unless we win elections.
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Fulchrum posted:So we're just going to ignore the Russians, the FBI, the voter suppression laws and the media pushing a goddamn horserace narrative no matter the cost? The Democratic Party can't fail, only be failed.
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i feel bad for assange, he got everything he wanted and now his life has no purpose until 2020
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Fulchrum posted:So we're just going to ignore the Russians, the FBI, the voter suppression laws and the media pushing a goddamn horserace narrative no matter the cost? *leans into mic* correct
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Enkmar posted:Well that's the frustrating thing is that it was in some sense a squeaker, there's so many factors that could have been improved any single one could have turned the election around. Sadly we can't change those things about wikileaks, comey, voter suppression etc unless we win elections. She went against a candidate that could and did say "bing bong bing bong" and make disparaging comments against minorities and STILL. LOST.
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logikv9 posted:i feel bad for assange, he got everything he wanted and now his life has no purpose until 2020 The Swedish government might let him out in 2019 on good behavior
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Battle Royale Baby posted:She went against a candidate that could and did say "bing bong bing bong" and make disparaging comments against minorities and STILL. LOST. he also said he loves hispanics!!1!!!!! both disparaging and POSITIVE comments !! hurrah for trump the best president ever and certainly the most active president elect in american history hip hip hurrah trump trump trump!
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logikv9 posted:i feel bad for assange, he got everything he wanted and now his life has no purpose until 2020 There's always the possibility that Trump brings him to the US. Enkmar posted:Well that's the frustrating thing is that it was in some sense a squeaker, there's so many factors that could have been improved any single one could have turned the election around. Sadly we can't change those things about wikileaks, comey, voter suppression etc unless we win elections. I mean, there was a ton of stuff that was just so bad on it's face. The 300k to hispanic outreach in Florida despite banking on it to pull the state. Spending more money on ads in California than Ohio. Likewise, wikileaks only mattered because she hosed up. Russia is dumb because Obama had TONS of fake news on him too, including his religion, birthplace, being a gay prostitute in Chicago, etc. It terrifies me that anyone could honestly believe she's not an incredibly lovely candidate or that all the factors were poo poo outside her control, especially given the margins. She trusted her campaign to an automated algorithm while ignoring the pleas of field organizers and local races on the ground in swing states begging for resources, and god help me if there isn't a better metaphor to explain why she will always be a lovely uninspiring person and what people loving hate about democrats. They're always smarter than you until they're not, then somehow it's not their fault. She literally did not have an elevator pitch while running her campaign and all her language was couched in lovely unsure conditional moderate language. Seriously, I guarantee if you polled people asking what her campaign wants to get done, they'd have no loving clue or could even confuse it with Trump if you said it without context. I will never forget when she conceded, then had Podesta come out and speak to the crowds waiting for her. She couldn't be bothered to give them the time of day and sent a lovely lobbyist to handle it. This is someone who was asking the American public to lead them into war if required, and she decided to say 'gently caress it' and call it a night rather than take the stage and tell her people that this isn't over. She posed the question last election she couldn't respond to this one; Who do you want answering that phone at 3am? The answer definitely is not Trump, but it's not her either. And voters voted accordingly.
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Baloogan posted:he also said he loves hispanics!!1!!!!! both disparaging and POSITIVE comments !! hurrah for trump the best president ever and certainly the most active president elect in american history hip hip hurrah trump trump trump! In a thread about democratic electoral strategy why would you waste so much loving time on the shitheads who will never vote Democrat mugrim posted:It terrifies me that anyone could honestly believe she's not an incredibly lovely candidate or that all the factors were poo poo outside her control, People inside the party are doing everything to deflect the scrutiny of her campaign and it's just so sad and frustrating to me. Still STILL people are insinuating that we have a personal dislike of Hillary when we say she was a bad candidate. There is always this effort from a few posters to tie the rightly critical(read: woke) folks into conservative media breathing crowd that hates everything Clinton. That's so not where we are coming from Jokerpilled Drudge has issued a correction as of 08:33 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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mugrim posted:There's always the possibility that Trump brings him to the US. julian assange, NSA director
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Enkmar posted:In a thread about democratic electoral strategy why would you waste so much loving time on the shitheads who will never vote Democrat heres a novel idea: stop callin em shitheads and try to figure out why they never vote for your milk toast motherfucking bootlickin party of hilarious incompetents ha
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Baloogan posted:heres a novel idea: stop callin em shitheads and try to figure out why they never vote for your milk toast motherfucking bootlickin party of hilarious incompetents ha I guess they just hate women.
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Baloogan posted:heres a novel idea: stop callin em shitheads and try to figure out why they never vote for your milk toast motherfucking bootlickin party of hilarious incompetents ha I think Clinton was a poo poo candidate, not sure what you're on about... like I am saying the same things you are here. Jokerpilled Drudge has issued a correction as of 08:37 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Enkmar posted:In a thread about democratic electoral strategy why would you waste so much loving time on the shitheads who will never vote Democrat But enough about voters 
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The primary objective for Democrats is getting back the Obama voting working class whites and reaching out to non-voters. That's by far the best strategy and really the only one as well.
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Honestly I don't think that will be a significantly difficult strategy with how quickly Donny and his GOP will be handing out tax cuts to the super rich.
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i find it hilarious that either they gonna find the first woman candaiate hilarious incompetent or they gonna find that they didn't suck enough peckerwood lamo i should have listedn to my avatar its all about the peckerwoods, baby
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^^ wow buddy sorry we can recognize when our candidate under performs and gets us Donald Trump Homeless Friend posted:But enough about voters There's probably more nuance to be found here other than "Hillary lost because poor people are considered racist" and way better ways to articulate addressing the aspects of that idea that are true. Oh hey maybe you guys don't get that a big aspect of that underperformance is that she didn't suck enough workingclass peckerwood does that make sense??? Jokerpilled Drudge has issued a correction as of 08:53 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:The primary objective for Democrats is getting back the Obama voting working class whites and reaching out to non-voters. That's by far the best strategy and really the only one as well. Nah, going after middle class GOP suburbanites is the future for the Democrats Because the Republicans are going to have a constitutional convention and bring back property requirements for voting
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