SUK ZONE: it's all a pointless exercise and you're just screaming into the void

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so why did Dean get fired from the position last time?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 04:14

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:40

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iospace posted:

Stepped down

So why did he step down? I was told it was due to him not playing well with the blue dogs.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 04:35

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from a new york times article i googled:

quote:

Howard Dean will not seek a second term as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, ending a tenure marked by an aggressive attempt to reshape the mission of the committee � and to court support by the so-called Netroots � but also marked by frequent quarrels with Democratic leaders over his abilities and the direction he was taking the party.

alright, does anybody remember this or am I going to have to find it myself?
edit:

quote:

Dean's tenure at the DNC has been marked by a sharp disconnect between the grassroots of the party and the operative class.

Grassroots -- and netroots -- activists, who propelled Dean's presidential bid and then helped get him elected as chair of the party in early 2004, love the former Vermont governor and credit his chairmanship of the DNC with the rebirth of Democrats as a national party. (Dean's pioneering accomplishment of his four years in office is the 50-state strategy, a plan that put staff and organizations on the ground in every state in the country.)

Dean was not as well received among members of the permanent political class in Washington, many of whom dismissed him as a lightweight -- particularly on the fundraising front.

Dean, at times, clashed publicly with Democratic elected officials over his stewardship of the DNC -- particularly newly installed White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. Of one particularly contentious meeting in the spring of 2006, Tom Edsall wrote:

i dunno guys dean sounds kinda cool

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# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 04:58

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

There was nothing official but everyone said Pelosi and Reid hated his guts and didn't trust his ideas to actually deliver. I'm sure he's already flooded their inboxes with 'boy wish we had a 50 state strategy huh' emails.

He also hilariously owned Rham multiple times.

Also as a bad Hillary poster I'm incredibly embarrassed how wrong and owned I am

hilariously owning rham is a plus in my book.

that pharma lobbying thing still taints him though and i'm going to stick with who bernie and warren endorsed.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 05:11

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Oh, Dean was a lobbyist for Dentons.

They're the ones now picking the Trump's cabinet.

oh :smith:

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 05:26

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iospace posted:

Great, now you said it. Rham is totally going to run in 2020.

I want Dean in charge of strategy but not touching policy.

can we have ellison on policy and dean on strategy, can that work

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 05:32

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iospace posted:

It's what I want.

Right now, the Democrats have to do this:

1. reorganize and fast. 2018 is going to be coming up quick.
2. get a solid policy down.
3. Figure out how to go about getting people elected.

Once's that done, for 2018:
4. Manage to keep the GOP Statehouses below the convention threshold.
5. Manage to keep under 60 GOP Senators.
6. Poach some house seats if possible.

Currently, the house can be written off as is, and it'll take a wave to flip it. Save that for 2020, though if 2018 is favorable enough, try there. Overplaying our hand in 2018 could cost us redistricting in 2020, which is why we need to stop the bleeding in 2018.

1st priority is to keep any amendments or a constitutional convention from happening. 2018 is a very favorable senate map for GOP pickups, so damage has to be limited there and how.

oh i think i'm gonna puke

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 05:57

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iospace posted:

They need one more. I'm not loving joking.

oh god i'm gonna double puke

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 06:00

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is there some some web 3.0 bullshit website for finding... I dunno... political campaigns to participate in? advocacy groups to help out? hope? any way to channel this anxiety and anger into something productive?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 06:09

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Mutant Standard posted:

is there some some web 3.0 bullshit website for finding... I dunno... political campaigns to participate in? advocacy groups to help out? hope? any way to channel this anxiety and anger into something productive?

i guess not then huh

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 06:46

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Segmentation Fault posted:

Jesus Christ, Denton.

look out DNC a bomb

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 08:50

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how useful of a site is this? http://my.democrats.org/page/s/help-elect-democrats

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 19:34

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Thoguh posted:

I don't understand how you can lose with guys like this by your side.

I legit hope their books get opened though. We need the Mitt Romney truth.

dude looks like david cross in a mr show sketch.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 20:10

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iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/politico/status/798140449860947968
Schumer into the sun.

it's not like they're going to say "we're gonna filibuster y'all!" to the congress that can vote it out

# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 08:13

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LegionAreI posted:

So I know you all hate John Oliver, but he had a point about how people digest media and that bullshit internet stories stirred the pot for this election.

The question is, how do we fight that type of thing? How do we, hopefully as people who want to see the truth instead of bullshit, get real news out to people in a way that's as easy to digest as conspiracy theories on Facebook are? I always thought wikileaks might be a way to do this but gently caress them and everything they stand for at this point. It's going to be an important part of 2018 and 2020 - if Democrats/sane people can't find a way to get the message out it's going to be difficult to convince people.

I know going out and talking to people is the best way, but not everyone can attend rallies or meet people. Social media is unfortunately here to stay and the truth is always harder to swallow than echo chamber bullshit. So how do Democrats boost the signal on things that people might not want to hear as much as empty platitudes?

Google is now banning those. Let's hope facebook does the same.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 17:11

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anime was right posted:

if we're ever getting a great depression/ww2/civil rights movement level event happening our political lifetimes its probably within the next few years.

i'm feeling like i might die from this, like a 5~7% chance

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 05:56

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Montasque posted:

I was in college during George W Bush's first term so I guess my concept of the left was frozen in that time.

Then during the general election I was shocked when people were cheerlead globalization, neoliberalism, and 'Red Scares'.

I remember during the early 2000s ID politics were important, but the focus was on economic justice.

I'm not sure what happened on the left in the past 14 years but here we are.

things are going to feel even worse when the democrats replace the trump administration and say "most of this is okay"

# ¿ Nov 24, 2016 20:41

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Fulchrum posted:

Gee, if only Hillary had said something like this every single time guns were mentioned.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/758864830119895041

Them I'm sure all gun owners would have been reasonable and calm.

she would quote herself in her tweets

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 05:30

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Fulchrum posted:

It seems to me that for all people are saying "Ellisson or gently caress it all", Buckley would be just as good in the position.

from his wikipedia:

quote:

Buckley was the frontrunner to become the chair of the New Hampshire Democratic Party in 2007. He temporarily ended his bid for chairman in January of that year, following allegations of possessing child pornography leveled by Buckley's former housemate, Rep. Steve Vaillancourt.[18] Vaillancourt and Buckley had been friends since 1983, and housemates until 1999, when Vaillancourt evicted Buckley for unknown reasons. The relationship has been strained since then.[2] Vaillancourt later admitted he had no proof to back up his allegations.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 02:35

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Fulchrum posted:

So at this point, messaging and party vision for all three (four if Hogue jumps in) is almost virtually identical, it's now down to who says it.

wouldn't we want someone who works at the position full-time rather than part-time?

# ¿ Dec 3, 2016 09:12

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do we have to eat their cats?

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 03:57

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so ellison is saying he'll be a full-timer if he gets the chair.

that's nice

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 19:27

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david brock looks like a david cross character from a mr. show skit, i'm not 100% convinced that he isn't

# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 06:07

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Joementum posted:

Something to remember when you hear someone blame millennials for 2016.

what was the millennial turnout in 2016 vs 2012?

# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 19:11

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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

After she got brain damage.

i got brain damage and i'm not a nazi yet

# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 22:38

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

liberals pretend to think Malcolm X is a hero, but they don't even get that Shaggy 2 Dope is basically his reincarnation

is this too large to make a thread title

# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 23:15

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http://time.com/4606711/president-obama-democrats-coach/?xid=time_socialflow_twitter

Obama wants to work with dems to help regaining ground on a local level and guiding new leadership.

...are democrats boned?

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 02:52

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maybe obama means not abandoning minorities for the moderate right? maybe? ._.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 03:03

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Grand Prize Winner posted:

Hey, I'm serious now, is anyone trying to summarize the thread as it goes on? I can't quite follow this drat thing since it seems to move more than 50 pages a day. What's gone on since afternoon of the 17th? Any actual news? Useful planning? Infighting as usual? Seriously it's hard to stay engaged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_XT-HdBvE

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 06:12

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What beer do socialists drink?

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 08:14

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hail satan

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 23:06

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bring back the rainbow coalition and make the juggalos a part of it

# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 04:31

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:40

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iospace posted:

I got my name changed, and that poo poo was expensive, mostly in court costs (like... 300 bucks all told?). Only two times I got pulled over I got warnings, one verbal, one written (oddly the verbal was the 2nd time).

what did you change your name to

# ¿ Jan 23, 2017 23:26

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