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slave to my cravings posted:Socialism wasn't going to sell but any sort of populist anti-establishment message would have been a lot better than none. People vote for "gently caress the rich elite assholes who are loving us!" without reading too deep in the how. Ergo Trump. Socialism would sell just fine if wrapped appropriately.
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Cubey posted:i do not think the number of berniebros who went to trump or even third part was significant enough to swing the election either way. bernie supporters overwhelmingly supported clinton when he conceded, don't let idiots on facebook and twitter lead you to believe otherwise. The ones who turned out at least. The young voter turnout was piss poor.
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rum sodomy Rainbow Dash posted:One thing that can't be ignored is that eight years of obstinate refusal to work with Obama and Democrats in Congress seems to have paid off. He never once used the bully pulpit. Applying pressure/bribes in a backroom deal does not make an opponent give an inch or a single gently caress in our political climate. Tanking the poll numbers of moderates in their home districts by holding them to the fire until they squeal via the bully pulpit probably would. I could see Trump using it to get some harebrained schemes through. If he does maybe the dems can learn a thing or two on exploiting the media's lust for shiny objects and ratings.
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Peel posted:I don't think it was a mistake to trust the consensus of polling and try for important bonuses like propositions. We know the polling was systematically wrong now, but going with your gut feeling over what reputable polls tell you will burn you more often than not. Bill Mitchell was lucky, not insightful. Polling wasn't that off. LV models were extremely off.
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Dems have 4 years to get their poo poo together. By then we should have had be in our next scheduled recession with an immensely unpopular Republican government. If they nominate another corporate stooge it's torches and pitchforks time.
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